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DocCannabis

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Hey folks, this is some weed that I got today. This is about 200 grams I think and it cost me $2. I want some expert opinions on this... I know this stuff is nothing compared to what you folks have happening around here. My intention is to take this and make it better by growing some of my own plants...
 

Boondox

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compressed commercial would mean its grown poorly for wholesale. and its compressed to make shipping easier, kinda like or the exact same as mexican brickweed, or dirt weed, or well there are thousand of names.
go ahead use the seeds from your baggy. if its grown properly it will give you some good smoke, maybe not high quality but very smokable.
You took the words right outta my mouth.:thumb::Hookah:
 

G-Dog

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Captain Kronic has a point. The thing about unknown commercial weed is that you don't know how tall it will be or how long it takes to finish. You can experiment with it if you have time and space, that is what the seed breeders have been doing, but it takes patience and resources. With seeds being sold today you can buy exactly what you want and count on the results that the seed breeder advertizes.
 

G-Dog

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bwaaahhahhahhahha
ok seeds that grow all the same, get what you want.:16: someones feeding themselves tooo much ferts (bs):MoreNutes: when was the last time you tried boughten seed? 99% are f1's which means they are unproven srains. you get 1,2,3,4 maybe more phenos that all grow/veg/flower differently.

buddy grow out a bunch of the seeds, take a clone of each one, flower the originals, which ever is the best you grow out that clone and mother it. you have just about as good of chance of getting a great pheno to grow. or go buy an IBL strain or an f3,f4,f5 and you'll get what it is you buy.
buy seeds nowadays and get what they advertise :19:

OMG my good friend is making fun of me!

When I get seeds I get an even canopy of a relative height, as advertised, and a finish time about two weeks longer than advertised. It IS a weed, but one that has been worked. I am not against bag seed in the least, but you never know anything about them and don't know what you are going to get. Pick a breeder that has been around awhile and doesn't hide. Some breeders come to the forums and face the music. Their seeds are not cheap tho.
 
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G-Dog

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Wild Weed are strains that have evolved in a specific location, micro climate, and have developed natural resistance to pest and other problems (too much rain, short grow season, not enough rain, altitude so on) specific to that area. The resistant strains or phenos evolve to live and reproduce. High levels of THC are not necessary for survival if pollen is available. If you hike in mountainous regions you will see various indigenous plants evolve for the various conditions. You will see bonsai trees in the higher elevations for instance. This is natural selection. When a breeder works a specific strain he is trying to capitalize on all the beneficial features for a specific environment. We can create an environment inside that is pretty good, but it is much harder outdoors. Too many variables outside.
 

ptg701

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...200 grams I think and it cost me $2.
Where can I meet these Indians that are selling weed for $4.50 a pound?

Around here "Indian Weed" means it was grown on the Reservation by Mexicans with Tribal girlfriends.

It's pretty good smoke and usually sold in bars, whorehouses, behind casinos, at Taco stands, and under the counter at tobacco shops.
 

endive

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Just think, before the seed banks proliferated... It was ALL bagseed.

Currently in my region, aside from the SOB (south of the border) imports which I think is still better than the domestically grown mexican cartel junk, rare but occasional Thai and Tibetan imports to the area, result in some wonderful landrace (or damn near) genetics that can do wonders when introduced to stock plants with known genetics/traits.

Every seed is a mystery to me, I like to wait till it's no loss or waste of time to try each I encounter.

Coincidentally, my next two seeds up are mysteries. My GF found one in the city, on the sidewalk, just sitting there. It's a large, fat round bugger. The second find is a smaller but heavily mottled seed, it is more almond shaped than watermelon. It came out of a jacket pocket in the lost & found at my gym. Look for them in my journal, I should be set to sprout them in the next couple weeks.


P.S. When I saw "Indian weed", I thought more along the lines of Malana from the northern regions of India, or Bangi, the original "Ganja".
 
Where can I meet these Indians that are selling weed for $4.50 a pound?

Around here "Indian Weed" means it was grown on the Reservation by Mexicans with Tribal girlfriends.

It's pretty good smoke and usually sold in bars, whorehouses, behind casinos, at Taco stands, and under the counter at tobacco shops.
that's what I'm thinking. $2 for all that, brick weed or not, I'd pay those prices.

To the OP thinking about growing it out, if you're inexperienced at growing, definitely grow them out, it will give you a feel of the process. I'm glad I didnt waste seeds I paid for on my first few grows. I grew some alright bagseed that turned into really good weed. Nothing like I grow now, but for what it was, i got high as hell
 

N.W.Green

Nug of the Month: Apr & June 2011 - Plant of the Month: July 2011
Also with all this talk about pheno variation, you have to remember that pheno is 50% genetic and 50% enviorment, thats why when one grower does a clone and his buddy runs the same clone they RARELY look the same, you cant say i ONLY grow outdoors where you cant regulate the enviorment and say you dont like the variation.

Yes IBL and later F generations are more stable and even more so BX lines will have more limited pheno variation, but a plant that is sitting just a little bit more in the open will look differn't than another one that doesn't get the same wind exposure/nutes/water/wind/ or any of the other endless variation possible.

and im not trying to sound rude but its pretty bold to say that his bag seed is more likely to do well for him than a breeders strain that is made with a male and a female, most bag seed sadly are hermie, i too would love to introduce new fresh genes into the garden from bagseed but its just not practical a good majority of the time you end up with something that will fuck up the rest of your plants.

Landrace and Bagseed are a whole lot differn't and even many Landrace strains are VERY hermi prone its just in their nature(Thai's for instance) and with a good breeders they DO use landrace strains but their selection is done on a MUCH larger scale where they can find the Steller individuals and breed them with other steller individuals which then become F1's.
 

Water Bear

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I would just like to put in my 2 cents on the comments above.

First off, most cannabis cultivation is monoculture.

You don't want this, it inhibits the plants ability to evolve and adapt.

Secondly, it does not matter what strain you grow, as long as it is grown properly it will be medical grade.

Separating the sexes will force the plant to produce more trichromes, no matter what strain it is. Yes yes, some strains are genetically disposed to produce more THC and other cannabinoids, but the difference is only slightly.

The best genetics are found in the plants that have not been monocultured and bred like a lot of the seeds from the seed banks, most often you are just paying for a name (OG Kush, White Widow, etc)

I have a friend who had a garden in his bag yard, grew everything from bag seed and the buds on one plant were pure purple. No nutrients deficiencies, just properly grown and good genetics

Take those seeds you have and grow them properly in a hydroponic system, with proper lighting using proper spectrum Florescent lights or HID lights. Use proper nutrients for veg and flower. Prevent any pests or diseases. Kill males when you flower, make sure that you flower the plant long enough, and use a 60x illuminated pocket microscope to look at trichromes to make sure 1/3 are amber and 2/3 are milky. Flush nutrients the last week before harvest. Dry slowly around 7 days and cure in a glass jar for a month.

You will have guaranteed medical grand cannabis.
 

N.W.Green

Nug of the Month: Apr & June 2011 - Plant of the Month: July 2011
Also purple is just a pigment that lowland cannabis strains have develuped to help them stand out from all the green plants around them and draw in more light to them

What does your friends purple bagseed have to do with the conversation?
 

G-Dog

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Water Bear, with all due respect I have to disagree. Genetics is the number one factor in determining potency. Second to that is the grow environment. As NW said, you can grow all the hemp you want and you are not getting high. Genetically all weed falls into the scale between hemp and the fire.
 

Water Bear

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Most people find plants that produce purple pigments a desirable trait, that's all.

Any ways, just to give an example of what I'm talking about:

Some human beings are, because of their genes, stronger than others. But this does not mean that a person who is not naturally strong can never be strong.

Put a human in the right environment, eating good food and getting lots of exercise, a naturally weak person can be stronger than a naturally strong person if they are put in the right environment.

And industrial cannabis for hemp fiber production is a TOTALLY different thing, but I get your point and yes there is a cut off line.
 

N.W.Green

Nug of the Month: Apr & June 2011 - Plant of the Month: July 2011
I get where your coming from too my friend, im not one to argue so sorry if it has seemed that way i just like to point out the other side of the coin.

I was taking it from a standing of if your take a plant that has a hermi back ground and start a breeding project with it it is MUCH more likely that the problem will be in their children. You are right a bag seed can be beautiful and not show a hermi at all so i know what you mean (my strawberry kush is a bag seed but it took 28 seeds to get one that was not a hermi, all turned out female too)



I would love to be able to breed with this plant but its just not a smart thing, im not saying it cant be done but this is where I was saying a true strain from a breeder is more valuable to one is all.

:D
 

resinboys2555

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I would just put some into petri dishes to see if they will even grow, most of the time it comes out to mid grade quality good luck growing if thats what your doin
Hey folks, this is some weed that I got today. This is about 200 grams I think and it cost me $2. I want some expert opinions on this... I know this stuff is nothing compared to what you folks have happening around here. My intention is to take this and make it better by growing some of my own plants...
 
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