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Hey Guys, @Emilya, @StoneOtter, @Bill284, @Grand Daddy Black, @Michael Hunt, @Ivumlov, @Bud love, @Backlipslide, @Virgin Ground and anyone else I forgot, I wanted to reach out directly if y'all don't mind - I try not to make it a habit. I'm looking for a little help in terms of expectations. I attached the same photo from the update post. A picture from this evening. The distance from the colas to the sceen is maybe 8-9 inches.
So my plan/thoughts on actions at this point between now and when they flip to 12/12 is kind of this:
- The plants will all get their first true full watering next time they need watering, which will be a couple/three days. They will have been in the fives almost 10 days by then. Does this sound about right or should I wait longer and continue to water just the sides for a while yet?
- I am removing no more anything in terms of leaves on the Jelly Ranchers or the Blueberry Muffin, as they were the three that took the brunt of my early burn. You can see in the pic that the lower left plant, the JR who got the worst hit of all for whatever reason, is still working it out on some leaves. Lol. She'll be fine now. But as a result the growth along the stems is smaller than it should be and I had to remove much more in the middle cuz it was dead or dying. Basically I'm down leaves on those three plants. So I'm gonna let them go. The Pineapples, on the other hand, are so goddamn bushy that I actually took two little leaves from the middles of each today cuz she was getting choke-y in there. I want air moving THROUGH the plant. Anyway, so my targeted six week defoliation is altered by that and by the fact that that DUMB mistake stalled them a whole week easy. Defoliation will just have to happen as it becomes necessary and not before in all cases is the bottom line. I'm kind of hoping to do zero more until I do the big defol under the canopy before I flip. Does that sound logical? It's not like I'm blocking bud sites or anything. My intuition/logic is telling me to let them leaf the hell up now as much as possible. Yes?
- I switched out of the Fox Farms Grow Big altogether, as it's 6-4-4 and even after I reduced it drastically when I restarted the plants after flushing, they still didn't like it too much. I came to the conclusion I needed something gentler so for the remainder of veg I'm using Botanicare Pro Grow for Veg. It's 3-2-4 and considered organic in 49 states. (not Cali, lol) They had one application at 50% so far and seem to enjoy it. I don't think I need to add any other nutes to the veg regimen (which isn't terribly much longer anyway) and I can run it with the Tiger Bloom once budding starts for the first two weeks in place of the Grow Big as recommended. I know how to manage the Tiger Bloom from my first grow, and thanks for the yellow tip post @Emilya, that was awesome. Anyway, I assume at some point some of you have used or use nutrients and likely these. Does this sound logical?
- So the plants begin to grow through the screen and I begin running them under the screen to force them to grow horizontally to fill the screen. I tuck new growth/shoots under the screen as well as they come. Everything. And I target filling it evenly. I sort of get all that in concept, no problem. Here's the part I'm most curious and least informed about. My plants when they hit the screen will have to be in the final spots (I have them centered until then as long as they have air flow). That will be like the five of a die. No other logical way to do it, right? I am thinking an equally spaced five just like a die. I can't think of any advantage to say, starting them all as close to the middle and working the screen outwards, as it seems that would compromise air flow and crowd them. Equally spaced is best, yes? My questions are all about the way to fill the screen the best. How do I prompt the branches to go, as in, what directions do I send them? It's easy enough to divide the screen into five equal squares (if I were diagramming it, say) centered on each plant and fill those squares first with what I have, right? Or should I be running the main colas as far from the plant as possible before the flip? You see where I'm going with this? I have no idea what growth is going to move more quickly and what's going to be the last to the screen, or how often I will have a new shoot to run, or anything like that. I've seen all the videos. Does anyone have a logical pattern or course of action to suggest based on my "five" shaped starting point? Also, the screen has 361 holes, 19x19. Anyone have any thoughts on how many of those I should be able to realistically hope to fill based on what you see? Cuz I will keep these girls in veg as long as is necessary to fill this screen with as many buds as possible, with the understanding that I fill the screen 70-75% before flipping. So any help on any of these fronts is greatly appreciated.
Those are the main things I'm concerned with between now and the flip. I really appreciate any help you guys have, especially since I am probably perceived as long winded. Thanks for bearing with me. Lol. Sorry, just a newbie trying to be clear. Ha.
Happy holiday everyone, and thanks.
So my plan/thoughts on actions at this point between now and when they flip to 12/12 is kind of this:
- The plants will all get their first true full watering next time they need watering, which will be a couple/three days. They will have been in the fives almost 10 days by then. Does this sound about right or should I wait longer and continue to water just the sides for a while yet?
- I am removing no more anything in terms of leaves on the Jelly Ranchers or the Blueberry Muffin, as they were the three that took the brunt of my early burn. You can see in the pic that the lower left plant, the JR who got the worst hit of all for whatever reason, is still working it out on some leaves. Lol. She'll be fine now. But as a result the growth along the stems is smaller than it should be and I had to remove much more in the middle cuz it was dead or dying. Basically I'm down leaves on those three plants. So I'm gonna let them go. The Pineapples, on the other hand, are so goddamn bushy that I actually took two little leaves from the middles of each today cuz she was getting choke-y in there. I want air moving THROUGH the plant. Anyway, so my targeted six week defoliation is altered by that and by the fact that that DUMB mistake stalled them a whole week easy. Defoliation will just have to happen as it becomes necessary and not before in all cases is the bottom line. I'm kind of hoping to do zero more until I do the big defol under the canopy before I flip. Does that sound logical? It's not like I'm blocking bud sites or anything. My intuition/logic is telling me to let them leaf the hell up now as much as possible. Yes?
- I switched out of the Fox Farms Grow Big altogether, as it's 6-4-4 and even after I reduced it drastically when I restarted the plants after flushing, they still didn't like it too much. I came to the conclusion I needed something gentler so for the remainder of veg I'm using Botanicare Pro Grow for Veg. It's 3-2-4 and considered organic in 49 states. (not Cali, lol) They had one application at 50% so far and seem to enjoy it. I don't think I need to add any other nutes to the veg regimen (which isn't terribly much longer anyway) and I can run it with the Tiger Bloom once budding starts for the first two weeks in place of the Grow Big as recommended. I know how to manage the Tiger Bloom from my first grow, and thanks for the yellow tip post @Emilya, that was awesome. Anyway, I assume at some point some of you have used or use nutrients and likely these. Does this sound logical?
- So the plants begin to grow through the screen and I begin running them under the screen to force them to grow horizontally to fill the screen. I tuck new growth/shoots under the screen as well as they come. Everything. And I target filling it evenly. I sort of get all that in concept, no problem. Here's the part I'm most curious and least informed about. My plants when they hit the screen will have to be in the final spots (I have them centered until then as long as they have air flow). That will be like the five of a die. No other logical way to do it, right? I am thinking an equally spaced five just like a die. I can't think of any advantage to say, starting them all as close to the middle and working the screen outwards, as it seems that would compromise air flow and crowd them. Equally spaced is best, yes? My questions are all about the way to fill the screen the best. How do I prompt the branches to go, as in, what directions do I send them? It's easy enough to divide the screen into five equal squares (if I were diagramming it, say) centered on each plant and fill those squares first with what I have, right? Or should I be running the main colas as far from the plant as possible before the flip? You see where I'm going with this? I have no idea what growth is going to move more quickly and what's going to be the last to the screen, or how often I will have a new shoot to run, or anything like that. I've seen all the videos. Does anyone have a logical pattern or course of action to suggest based on my "five" shaped starting point? Also, the screen has 361 holes, 19x19. Anyone have any thoughts on how many of those I should be able to realistically hope to fill based on what you see? Cuz I will keep these girls in veg as long as is necessary to fill this screen with as many buds as possible, with the understanding that I fill the screen 70-75% before flipping. So any help on any of these fronts is greatly appreciated.
Those are the main things I'm concerned with between now and the flip. I really appreciate any help you guys have, especially since I am probably perceived as long winded. Thanks for bearing with me. Lol. Sorry, just a newbie trying to be clear. Ha.
Happy holiday everyone, and thanks.
