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Landrace Genetics 101

Pennywise

Member of the Year: 2017 - Member of the Month: Mar & Oct 2017, Aug 2018, May 2019 - Plant of the Month: Aug 2017
F1’s tend to be more uniform, more like the parents. F2 and S1 will start showing recessive genes as well as rna recombination.
 

Scottsquatch

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So selfing a femmed seed is not actually a way to reproduce the plant you have. The offspring will be like an F2. You would need to plant a lot of the S1's in order to find the same phenotype (and hopefully genotype) of the plant you selfed.
That is crazy that S1 acts like F2. I thought the offspring would be identical.
Would the S1's be identical to the plant in question if it was a very stable line? Would the S1's be the same then? I'm guessing the line is stable because a lot of the diversity has been removed. Is that accurate?
 

Pennywise

Member of the Year: 2017 - Member of the Month: Mar & Oct 2017, Aug 2018, May 2019 - Plant of the Month: Aug 2017
It may help to have a stable line worked a number of generations down the line. I believe the big draw with S1’s is to have something close to the mom but having a pheno no one else has.
 

GrizzWald

Plant of the Month: June 2016 - Nug of the Month: Aug 2017
no matter 'breeding' you try to find the desirable -favorite -best pheno of the strain, its called selection. about s1 being further or needing more selection than f1? s1 is a backup used by all/most breeders of their parents plants, to have that direct link and representation, still requiring selection.
 

Pennywise

Member of the Year: 2017 - Member of the Month: Mar & Oct 2017, Aug 2018, May 2019 - Plant of the Month: Aug 2017

Scottsquatch

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I'm getting fairly excited about doing some seed runs. As of late, I have been getting in a little bit of hot water with my wife as I have been gathering some legendary strains. Strainly has made this much easier so I guess a big thank you is in order @Van Stank for making me aware of it. I am gonna do an all star grow this spring after the basement facility is complete. Of course that is subject to personal opinion, but many will agree they are all star strains once they see my line up! I may only be doing this for my own sanity (I finally found somthing to get my mind off the fucking combat) and to make my own meds, but I am serious about my hobby. In the event MN finally legalizes I wanna have my shit squared away in case I can find/make the opportunity to get involved in the industry. Either way, I gotta take my skill/knowledge to the next level by then.
 
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Pennywise

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Pennywise

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Scottsquatch

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On another note, now that I have locked down my legends, I can get back to my slow acquisition of landrace strains. They interest me the most as almost everything is just a homogeneous mix of genetics now. We gotta save these and keep them pure.
I will be very generous with my landrace seed. It sucks when a landrace is collected and then just sat on and used to create a new strain only for profit. One company in particular like to say that "everybody should be able to have these seeds" yet they never release the pure landraces. I was thinking I would like to specialize in landrace seed production and sales here in The US. obviously I would credit whoever collected the seeds, but I want to produce these and get them into the hands of hobbyists. I think a lot more folks would be interested if they were more readily available.
 

Pennywise

Member of the Year: 2017 - Member of the Month: Mar & Oct 2017, Aug 2018, May 2019 - Plant of the Month: Aug 2017

Scottsquatch

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Even a small craft grow could be profitable
Craft cannabis is kind of what I was thinking. I wouldnt mind specializing in landrace and heirloom seed. It would also be cool to take grow orders for customers that suck at growing. I'd have a seed menu and a client could pick a few strains they wanted me to grow. They would pay a deposit for me to grow it, and would lose the deposit if they didnt buy at least an ounce of every strain selected. It might work. I grow all organic and pesticide free except for my SOG plants. I go hempy and FF trio with them. Seems to me I'm starting in on a cannabis induced rant, so I'll go now. Lol
 

Althegardener2

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So I just hand pollinated my Taj hash clones, did it a little bit earlier, I'd like to have waited a week, but we've got five inches of snow today and this corner of the library where these two are growing is likely to get chillier than ideal by the beginning of January. I have two flowering girls and was going to only pollinate one but hey, I've got two more clones just starting up, so I did both.
Tajikistani hash to Afghan kush x Hindu kush.

I'd like to take the next two clones and see if I can find another source for the Taj pollen. Will keep my feelers out.
 

Pennywise

Member of the Year: 2017 - Member of the Month: Mar & Oct 2017, Aug 2018, May 2019 - Plant of the Month: Aug 2017

Althegardener2

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Hoping so, Pennywise. My first choice is of course another Taj, but I'll see if I can find pollen for that somewhere. Someone out there, somewhere, has to be growing these too.
That combo I mated them to is called Breath of Green Dragon (BOGD).
After curing the first harvest for over two months I can say unequivocally that it has been my favorite most smooth smoke. Perfectly balanced head/body high.
 

ilikemsticky

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Hoping so, Pennywise. My first choice is of course another Taj, but I'll see if I can find pollen for that somewhere. Someone out there, somewhere, has to be growing these too.
That combo I mated them to is called Breath of Green Dragon (BOGD).
After curing the first harvest for over two months I can say unequivocally that it has been my favorite most smooth smoke. Perfectly balanced head/body high.
yumm!
 

Pennywise

Member of the Year: 2017 - Member of the Month: Mar & Oct 2017, Aug 2018, May 2019 - Plant of the Month: Aug 2017

Van Stank

Member of the Month: Nov 2017 - Plant of the Month: June 2018, November 2018 - Plant of the Year: 2018 - Plant of the Month: Sept 2019
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