LKABudMan Back In Deep Water: 4 Purple Haze Clones In RDWC

LKABudMan

Nug of the Month: March 2022 - Grow Journal of the Month: April 2022 - Plant of the Month: April 2022

No Pain

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nice run ..got here at the tail end ... Yes trimming is tedious . I do like you did a ruff trim up from and then after they are dry a final trim before curing . love that you are curing at 60-65 degrees ..i let my rh bounce between 55-60 ..i had to put a dehumidifier in set to 60 as it would spike sometimes . Might i recommend getting a moisture meter to check the moisture content of the buds before calling them done? You can get them on amazon they aren't very expensive . I also recommend Grove bags for the cure and storage no burping required , the only thing that is required is drying them to the correct moisture content ... I bagged mine at 10% and let me tell you , this is the first time i used them and it is the best smelling flower I have ever had . No joke it smell so good you would think you could eat it or in this case drink it as it smells like a sweet Moscato !!! The smoke is also velvet smooth . If you are interested in them and go to their website look for the option of "build your own" otherwise you will go to a page that is bulk at some serious prices ... they have alot of different sizes and they aren't really pricey ...here is a link lol

thanks for the Fathers day wises and right back at you !
 

Grand Daddy Black

Member of the Month: June 2021, March 2022 - Grow Journal of the Month: May 2022
nice run ..got here at the tail end ... Yes trimming is tedious . I do like you did a ruff trim up from and then after they are dry a final trim before curing . love that you are curing at 60-65 degrees ..i let my rh bounce between 55-60 ..i had to put a dehumidifier in set to 60 as it would spike sometimes . Might i recommend getting a moisture meter to check the moisture content of the buds before calling them done? You can get them on amazon they aren't very expensive . I also recommend Grove bags for the cure and storage no burping required , the only thing that is required is drying them to the correct moisture content ... I bagged mine at 10% and let me tell you , this is the first time i used them and it is the best smelling flower I have ever had . No joke it smell so good you would think you could eat it or in this case drink it as it smells like a sweet Moscato !!! The smoke is also velvet smooth . If you are interested in them and go to their website look for the option of "build your own" otherwise you will go to a page that is bulk at some serious prices ... they have alot of different sizes and they aren't really pricey ...here is a link lol

thanks for the Fathers day wises and right back at you !
No Pain, what do you mean when you say, "I bagged mine at 10%"?
 

No Pain

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No Pain, what do you mean when you say, "I bagged mine at 10%"?
10% moisture content in the flower when checked with a wood moisture meter . Thats when I cut the buds off the branches and do the final trim and put them in the grove bags .... when checking the moisture content I stick the buds not the branches .
 

Verbalist

Grow Journal of the Month: Feb 2022
No Pain, what do you mean when you say, "I bagged mine at 10%"?
Me either didn't really understand this.
Are you saying that you jar the buds and start curing them when RH is down to 10%? Those nugs would be dry as sahara then? :oops:

And prob wont have to burp any bags or jars if theyre too dry. Isn't the idea of curing to maintain 60-70% RH in air sealed space to break down the chrolophyll but retain and preverse the terps ’at the same time’?
Isn't actual curing pretty much dead if the RH inside the jars wont get above 60% - don't know what would be the actual RH inside the nugs but I doubt it's more than 10%.

V
 

Grand Daddy Black

Member of the Month: June 2021, March 2022 - Grow Journal of the Month: May 2022
10% moisture content in the flower when checked with a wood moisture meter . Thats when I cut the buds off the branches and do the final trim and put them in the grove bags .... when checking the moisture content I stick the buds not the branches .
Thanks dude! I need a WMM. :)
 
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No Pain

Well-Known Member
Me either didn't really understand this.
Are you saying that you jar the buds and start curing them when RH is down to 10%? Those nugs would be dry as sahara then? :oops:

And prob wont have to burp any bags or jars if theyre too dry. Isn't the idea of curing to maintain 60-70% RH in air sealed space to break down the chrolophyll but retain and preverse the terps ’at the same time’?
Isn't actual curing pretty much dead if the RH inside the jars wont get above 60% - don't know what would be the actual RH inside the nugs but I doubt it's more than 10%.

V
when i mentioned 10% its not the rh in the room or jar ..it is the moisture content in the flower and you need a wood moisture meter to find that out .
Thanks dude! I need a WMW. :)
You're welcome ... you can find the wood moisture meters on amazon
 

Bill284

Member of the Month: March 2021; April 2022 - Grow Journal of the Month: April 2021 - Plant of the Month: Nov 2021 - Member of the Year: 2021
*** Harvest Day ***
Date: 6/18/22 - Day 69 of flower (W10D6)
Strain - Purple Haze photo clones x 4
Grow space - Vivosun 48x48x80 tent in basement
Light height and reading - 36 Hours of darkness
Extraction - AC Infinity 6" extraction fan with Controller69
2x 6" oscillating fans + Tower oscillating fan + 12" floor fan (on ceiling)
Nutrients - Stout MSA, Mega Crop, Hydroguard, z7, Purpinator, Big Bud, Bud Candy
Medium - 8" Netpots with clay balls in RDWC system (5x13g buckets)
Water - Carbon-filtered well water (100ppm/8.1pH)
Pests - Spider Mites (Sprayed with SNS 217-C + Lady Bugs)
Weekly temperatures

The pump on my dehumidifier stopped working last week, which means I have had to empty it manually. Even emptying twice daily it filled up and shut down a couple of times. Overall, it stayed on long enough to keep these ladies out of trouble through harvest.

So I ended up keeping these girls in the RDWC system for 84 days without changing. When I finally removed the plants and drained the system, it was pretty dirty. Next time I'll drain it at least once, at flower week 3.

Every time I harvest, I think about how hard/long/tedious this would be by myself. I understand why people call it trim jail. Fortunately, with my wife and son helping out, we were able to get all the plants harvested, rough trimmed, washed and hung in one day. By myself it would have taken a week easily.

As it was, we made a nice Saturday out of it. We ordered sushi for lunch and had a pleasant day listening to tunes and trimming bud. By the end of the day, though, we were all exhausted. We left most of the cleanup for the next day.

Thanks to all of you that hung around on this grow. It's been quite the ride, and I'll admit I doubted several times whether I'd get to harvest. Well, here we are, and hang on for a LOT of pictures ;)

The plants were in the dark the last 36 hours, from Thursday night until we chopped on Saturday. Here are the final tric shots after the 36 hours of darkness, right before chop.






I want to give a shout out to @Sierra Natural Science - I found the spider mites about 3 weeks ago and thought I was cooked. Luckily, I had the SNS 217-C and used it as soon as I found the little buggers, drenching the ladies four times in the next weeks or two. It got rid of 95%+ of the mites, allowing the ladybugs to take care of the rest through harvest. We found very few signs of any mites on the plants, and no webs. I highly recommend the SNS 217-C, especially if you need something to help with mites in flower.

The ladybugs were everywhere. We released some outside, some upstairs on my wife's plants, and there's still plenty crawling and flying around the basement. We pulled them out of our hair and off our hands/arms/necks all day. I sure an glad they don't bite or anything.

The other good news, no seeds! Last grow I had a few seeds and was worried some of the pollen would be in the tent. There were some super swollen calyx, especially in the larfy bud, but no signs of any seeds. YAY!

I usually chop the plant at the base and hang upside down above the table to trim the branches. Since these ladies were so tangled in the net that wasn't possible. We still ended up processing one plant at a time, which gave us a few breaks between.

  • First we chopped all the branches off above the first net, untangled them from the second net, and laid them out on the trimming table.

  • Then we wet trimmed all of the branches. We left most of the sugar leaves on and a couple of fan leaves as well. All of the large fans were removed. We also made sure there was airflow between the buds and the stem, by pulling the bud away from the stem and pinching out the little fan leaves between the stem and the bud. This leaves a little air pocket around the bud, allowing airflow while drying. We ended up with four 1 gallon zip locks stuffed with trim, which we'll make bubble hash out of soon.

  • After trimming all of the branched we weighed to give me an approximation of the finished weight. I use two different formulas (below), and for the last grow the final weight came in right between the two numbers.

  • After weighing, we took 15-20 minutes to get as much of the finger hash off as possible. These were some VERY sticky ladies, and by the time we were done with a plant we could not even put down the trimming scissors. We ended up with a huge ball of finger hash ;)

  • Next each bud was washed in baking soda/lemon juice and rinsed twice. I put airstones in my buckets to get plenty of agitation in the water. While the buckets after an indoor DWC grow are not nearly as dirty as after a soil grow, I did want to get rid of as many bugs as possible. Also, I believe that washing the buds help with the dry and cure.

  • After washing, each bud is hung on a hanger with a binder clip. I try to stagger the buds on the hanger to keep them from touching each other as much as possible. Again, I want as much airflow around each bud as possible.

  • The hangers stay in the basement for the first 4 hours or so, then we bring them upstairs to the drying closet.



















Here's the harvest tally. All told, we ended up with almost 11 pounds wet, nearly 5 kilos. There's some larf in there, but even that seemed pretty dense. I'm estimating a little over 2 pounds dry, about 1 kilo. I think the difference in weight for the plants was the difference in how they were spread out. Jolt and Jazz were spread out further and therefore had more weight. I was surprised to see Jolt, who we had to cut off 1/2 of, end up being the heaviest.

I'm hoping the drying will take 7-10 days. I used this closet to dry my last harvest and it worked really well, keeping the drying buds around 60f and 60% RH for 10 days. There's an A/C duct in the closet and I used a humidifier set to 60% to keep the humidity up after the first day or two. Of course, that was April and this is June, so the closet's going to be a little warmer this time. I could try to push the upstairs A/C a little cooler, but it's 20 years old and on it's last leg. I'm actually lucky that that closet seems to be a few degrees cooler than the rest of the upstairs, staying around 65f. I'll probably have to put the humidifier in there today, but I think this closet is going to do OK. I'll check back in a week or two with a final weight and wrapup for this grow. Hope all the dads out there had a great Father's Day weekend and have a great week everyone.
Congrats Amigo, another Stellar run.
This must be becoming too easy for you. ;)
Nice work. :thumb:

Stay safe :cool:
Bill
 

LKABudMan

Nug of the Month: March 2022 - Grow Journal of the Month: April 2022 - Plant of the Month: April 2022
nice run ..got here at the tail end ... Yes trimming is tedious . I do like you did a ruff trim up from and then after they are dry a final trim before curing . love that you are curing at 60-65 degrees ..i let my rh bounce between 55-60 ..i had to put a dehumidifier in set to 60 as it would spike sometimes . Might i recommend getting a moisture meter to check the moisture content of the buds before calling them done? You can get them on amazon they aren't very expensive . I also recommend Grove bags for the cure and storage no burping required , the only thing that is required is drying them to the correct moisture content ... I bagged mine at 10% and let me tell you , this is the first time i used them and it is the best smelling flower I have ever had . No joke it smell so good you would think you could eat it or in this case drink it as it smells like a sweet Moscato !!! The smoke is also velvet smooth . If you are interested in them and go to their website look for the option of "build your own" otherwise you will go to a page that is bulk at some serious prices ... they have alot of different sizes and they aren't really pricey ...here is a link lol

thanks for the Fathers day wises and right back at you !
Hey thanks @No Pain I LOVE Grove bags. I've been using them since my first harvest and wouldn't think of curing any other way. I still have my last harvest in a Grove bag with a Govee, it's been reading 63-64% for the last two months. The buds smell INCREDIBLE too, very pungent. The only down side is that the buds are too moist and sticky for the grinder ;) Thanks for posting this, though, as I forgot that I need a few more :) I just ordered 4 more of the pound size bags, as I like to fill them 1/2 full for curing.

I love me some gadgets and was looking at the wood moisture meters (WMM) this morning. What type of WMM do you have, pins or without pins? Do you measure the stalks or the actual buds with it? I just wait until the stems break, not snap. Then I'll buck the buds and put them in Grove bags with a hygrometer. If they are too moist, I'll take them out for a few hours and then try again. So far I've been pretty good at judging them, and they usually hit the bags at right around 60-65% RH.
 

LKABudMan

Nug of the Month: March 2022 - Grow Journal of the Month: April 2022 - Plant of the Month: April 2022
Congrats Amigo, another Stellar run.
This must be becoming too easy for you. ;)
Nice work. :thumb:

Stay safe :cool:
Bill
Thanks @Bill284 This grow definitely challenged me more. And it even threw in spider mites for a more fun! I'm looking forward to a nice, boring grow next time. Of course, that will never happen ;) Have a great day.
 

LKABudMan

Nug of the Month: March 2022 - Grow Journal of the Month: April 2022 - Plant of the Month: April 2022
Are you still buying seeds from ILGM?
Hi @WenworG This grow was from clones from an ILGM seed, and it'll be my last ILGM grow. My previous ILGM grow hermed and gave me a few seeds. I bought my latest seeds at North Atlantic Seed Co. Easier, cheaper, and better genetics.
 
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