Malawi & Golden Tiger

[Fomerballer]

Malawi & Golden Tiger. Both are 30 days old. Malawi is the bigger one. The GT got hung up in her shell for a week or so.

Fox Farm Happy Frog. Added liquid Karma & Rum Dunder (spent molasses) to feed.

When would you start defoliating the Malawi?

 

[Sativa1970]

Malawi loves to stretch. More than double but not quit triple in size on lighting flip. A week before 12/12 I do a full trim of undergrowth.

 

[Fomerballer]

Golden Tiger has very thin sativa leaves no buds. The Malawi has little buds but lots of them. I switched the light to bloom at week 3. Current is 12/12 lighting.

Plants are the same age. Soil is Fox Farms Happy Frog in 5 gal bags. Water is ph5.7. Per half gallon I've added Table spoon molasses. In the last week ive add Calmag & Bloom to tds 1200

 

[Sativa1970]

So you are in the 3rd week of 12/12 and you flipped the spectrum switch to flower on the light? Malawi looks good. Do you have any pistols on the GT? Sativas are equatorial so not as dependent on light schedule to start flowering. They flower when matured and light schedule just nudges them in that direction. If you wait too long they will start to flower in 18/6 or take a while to flower if you flip before it is ready. Be patient and keep an eye out for naners until you see the pistol hairs.

 

[Fomerballer]

I made the switch after the 3rd node came up. So that was about 3 weeks into the plant. Im sure i stunted the growth. Im hoping tge buds swell up. Feeding them water molasses and a little kharma ph corrected.

The golden tiger is now showing pistols. Shes been slow.

 

[Sativa1970]

That was a little early but it won't hurt it. She just finished maturing a little slower under 12/12. Around the 4th or 5th node they are mature and can start right into flower. She will fill out as normal over the next weeks like nothing happened.

 

[Dankman_420]

I just placed a order for Malawi and golden tiger. I'll be tagging along if you don't mind

 

[Fomerballer]

Absolutely. GT is very different. Long thin leaves. Its just nor starting to show pistols. Ill update photos soon.

 

[CaptainLucky]

Malawi loves to stretch. More than double but not quit triple in size on lighting flip. A week before 12/12 I do a full trim of undergrowth.

What he said . CL Edit: I grew a Golden Tiger but it stretched like crazy.

 

[CaptainLucky]

Absolutely. GT is very different. Long thin leaves. Its just nor starting to show pistols. Ill update photos soon.

Golden Tiger doesn’t like nutes and burn very ez. I cut out the the N when flowering. CL

 

[Fomerballer]

First 2 are the Malawi. Buds are getting fatter.

The last 2 are the Golden Tiger. Pistols are starting to form and fill in.

 

[Fomerballer]

Top leaf curl prob to close to light

 

[bluter]

Top leaf curl prob to close to light

there's some lower down as well, could indicate n tox.

 

[Fomerballer]

Golden Tiger doesn’t like nutes and burn very ez. I cut out the the N when flowering. CL

Good to know. Ive been giving a tsp molasses in a gallon of water. Also a little karma & calmag so maybe ill eliminate.

 

[CaptainLucky]

Good to know. Ive been giving a tsp molasses in a gallon of water. Also a little karma & calmag so maybe ill eliminate.

GT is a very sensitive strain that doesn’t like sudden changes. Anything I would try I would try to start or stop slowly. CL

 

[Sativa1970]

Good to know. Ive been giving a tsp molasses in a gallon of water. Also a little karma & calmag so maybe ill eliminate.

What media and other nutes do you use, if any? It is really hard to OD on calmag. Molasses is a simple absorbable sugar with no NPK to effect the plant negatively. Karma claims to be a "booster with no significant NPK". Karma is dolomite (calmag), potassium carbonate(K), fish meal (N),more mag, humic acid (can't OD), and seaweed extract (growth hormone).

The potassium carbonate and fish meal are insignificant amounts bound to the humic acid so there is no reason to stop. Calmag, humic acid, and seaweed extract are vary beneficial to the plant. Even in high doses. As long as your PH is correct.

 

[CaptainLucky]

What media and other nutes do you use, if any? It is really hard to OD on calmag. Molasses is a simple absorbable sugar with no NPK to effect the plant negatively. Karma claims to be a "booster with no significant NPK". Karma is dolomite (calmag), potassium carbonate(K), fish meal (N),more mag, humic acid (can't OD), and seaweed extract (growth hormone).

The potassium carbonate and fish meal are insignificant amounts bound to the humic acid so there is no reason to stop. Calmag, humic acid, and seaweed extract are vary beneficial to the plant. Even in high doses. As long as your PH is correct.

I’m not familiar with any of that so I can’t really comment but I do know about GT and nutes and especially K when flowering. Good luck n happy growing. CL

 

[Sativa1970]

I’m not familiar with any of that so I can’t really comment but I do know about GT and nutes and especially K when flowering. Good luck n happy growing. CL

Sativas in general are prone to nute burn. I run 75% to 95% of the recommended mix strength. Thai and mowi (it's ancestors) lean on the high side of that scale but still less than manufacturer recommendation.
I have never grown GT. Are you saying GT is extra sensitive to K or that is the one it likes? If so, I never considered the K ratio in the mix could be the problem all along. High K locks out a few micro nutrients like iron, manganese and copper. Hey, look, a rabbit hole!

 

[CaptainLucky]

Sativas in general are prone to nute burn. I run 75% to 95% of the recommended mix strength. Thai and mowi (it's ancestors) lean on the high side of that scale but still less than manufacturer recommendation.
I have never grown GT. Are you saying GT is extra sensitive to K or that is the one it likes? If so, I never considered the K ratio in the mix could be the problem all along. High K locks out a few micro nutrients like iron, manganese and copper. Hey, look, a rabbit hole!

When flowering I cut back almost all the N. My mistake I should have said N. I ease up the PK though. CLEdit: I was running 50% suggested nutes and that was the max without burning .

 

[Fomerballer]

Think another week or 2. This is the Malawi. 3 different buds.