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ViCiOsO

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Hey guys, I'm growing 4 plants, 2 whitewidows and 2 northern lights from

nirvana. I'm growing in a homebox that's 4 x 4 x 7, using a 400hps, and I

have 3 fans going to keep the temperature at about 85 degrees. I've used

Dyna-Gro Liquid Grow (7-9-5) once, and 2 days ago I added Rare Earth

(premium organic silicate with granular leonardite). My plants look healthy,

but I feel they should be bigger. The tallest is about 7 inches with 5 sets of

nodes. Should I add light? What type of lights? thanks :51:
 

ViCiOsO

New Member
ph level's between 6.5 and 7. hope this helps.

This is Starla, one of the widows.
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This is Olive Oil (nL), she was kinda scrawny so I decided to experiment with LST.
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Boss

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If you can lower the lights without the plants getting too warm, that would be very good.. It looks like you are doing some LST, very nice, but it will slow growth up a bit.

How old are the plants? They look about 20-25 days.
 

Boss

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You are on 24/7 now right? Or are you doing 12/12 with lighting? If you get a chance, bring in a halogen to take pics, or shut the lights off for a second and use the flash so we can see the colors. It will help a lot to determine if there is a nute issue, because your lighting may be just fine. I really think that 400watt is sufficient for that space.
 
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ViCiOsO

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I did have the lights about 6 - 8 inches lower, but I decided to raise them to encourage them to stretch a little. They're on 18-6. The residue on some of the leaves is Rare Earth. Got a little messy in there.

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Boss

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They look very healthy! What kind of soil you got there?

There is sometimes a fine line between maximizing light, and letting them stretch. Generally speaking, if you get some residue on the leaves, just use some PH neutral water and spray them off good, tops and bottoms. Just make sure there are no big water droplets that can make a mini magnifying glass and burn them.

Oh ya, do you know how old they are now?

I think they look healthy, and sometimes it takes a bit for them to hit that growth spurt that tells you they love you!

You can always add CFL full spectrums if you really feel you need more light though.

I had the same question about my grow!

You may want to read up on 12/12 as well. Check it out Here-No Mercy Supply-
 
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ViCiOsO

New Member
the soil sucks! .. I should have mixed my own. 3 of them have Shwertz(?) potting soil from Home Depot. 1 of them is in Black Gold (alot better by the way). She's almost 2 weeks younger than the older girls but they're about the same size.

I think this is my last time vegging with hps. I was reading Moose's Grow Diary and he got 24 inches in a month using 1000w MH. That's fucking nuts! Even people that use a bunch of cfls get more growth than 7 inches in a month.

Anyway, I think I'm just gonna do what you recommended and give them some time to hit that growth spurt. I might start looking for that seaweed tonic that worked so well for Moose, just for shits and giggles.

Thanks for the advise Boss. Good luck with your grow buddy!
 

ViCiOsO

New Member
Well that sucks.. I'll get on that asap.

Just got home from the grow shop and got new stuff. I bought a metal halide bulb that's compatible with my hps ballast (I know there's a term for that but I haven't gotten there yet). And also some Ohrstrom's Maxicrop Luiquid Seaweed.

Needless to say, I'm fuckin excited! Pictures are coming, thanks for the imput guys.
 

Smokin Moose

Fallen Cannabis Warrior
Great to see you using the Sea Tea. It really rocks! Thanks for understanding re the pics. I look forward to following your journal.
 

ViCiOsO

New Member
I hope the change of spectrum doesn't stress them out.

I stressed them out once before. Fed them a little too much Dyna-Gro in the beginning. So I've laid off ever since. But I did give them Rare Earth yesterday with their watering. How do you think I should approach with the seaweed?
 

Smokin Moose

Fallen Cannabis Warrior
If the Maxicrop Liquid Seaweed is PURE kelp seaweed, without any fish additives (ie. containing N), I would apply half strength every 5 days. You must check that the sea tea does not contain any appreciable amounts of Nitrogen, or it will harm your plants. I always advise to err on the side of caution with these things. I grow by eye, and most times do not follow directions on labels. When I commune with my plants, they tell me their needs lol. Good luck with your grow. I will be following it with interest. Any questions, just contact me or one of our grow support team.
 

ViCiOsO

New Member
Minimum Guaranteed Analysis
0.1 - 0.0 - 1.0

Total Nitrogen (N)..................0.1%
0.1% Water Soluble Organic Nitrogen

Soluble Potash (ic20)..............1.0%
Derived from: Ascophyllum Nodosum Seaweed

Chlorine not more than............1.0%

This is what is says in the back. That chlorine doesn't sound good. What do you think?
 

Smokin Moose

Fallen Cannabis Warrior
You have a pure Norwegian kelp product, which is excellent! Don't fret about the chlorine, as it is only a stabiliser. When you mix your sea tea (which MUST be used within 24hrs of mixing), let it stand for an hour or two, and most if not all the Cl will dissipate off into the atmosphere.
I would use the half strength as I suggested, and you should be ok.
 

Smokin Moose

Fallen Cannabis Warrior
Maxicrop Liquid Seaweed (Kelp Extract)

Derived from fresh Norwegian kelp (Ascophyllum nodosum), Maxicrop Kelp contains over 70 minerals, micronutrients, amino acids and vitamins. Also contains growth regulators which stimulate vigorous root development and plant growth. Encourages tolerance to plant stresses such as frost, pests, disease and drought. 10.7 oz. wettable powder (WP) makes one gallon of concentrate and is OMRI Listed for use in organic production (powder only).
You have the liquid version, but same applies.
Sea tea makes BIG flowers lol.
 
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