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MSquared's Organic Soil Indoor 4 Strain Grow - Perpetual

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I want to start this journal by saying :thanks: to everyone on/around here. I have learned so very much over the past year culling through hundreds (if not thousands) of pages. Please everyone keep up the excellent work!! :green_heart:

I really started growing mj for my wife who has MS :( she does really well for having it but has to take a lot of rx as most of you do, but with mj she hardly has to take any especially for the twitchiness and sleeping.

This is my 2nd grow, the first which was harvested in July was in all consideration very successful. It was 14 conf cheeses which netted just over 20z. now mind you it was using mg organic soil and some orchid fert. towards the end of the grow I used Alaska Fish Fert (aff) and organic blackstrap Mol. (mol).
these were in 4gal pots and I defoliated at day21 and 45 (i don't think Im gonna do that again).
Here are a few pics of that grow and harvest. this was truly some of the BEST smoke I have ever had! period! I was only able to get 2 clones from that run (my fault, but I learned). I have now gotten many more of those 2 clones.






On to the tech data and current setup and grow:

What strain is it? BC Roadkill (BCR), Resin Bomb (RB), Conf Cheese (CC), Gov Mule (gov(pg-13))
Is it Indica, Sativa or Hybrid? What percentages? mostly Indica
Is it in Veg or Flower stage? Both
If in Veg... For how long? the clones have been in there for a few days
If in Flower stage... For how long? 1 week
Indoor or outdoor? Indoor
Soil or Hydro? SOIL - love getting my hands dirty
If soil... what is in your mix? Promix base, but see soil pic
If soil... What size pot? 6gal I think.
Size of light? (2) 600w HPS and (16) 23w 2700k CFL Bank (I built)
Is it aircooled? not yet, but hopefully soon!
Temp of Room/cab? 72 - 85
RH of Room/cab? low mid 50s
PH of media or res? not sure...
Any Pests ? gnats sometimes
How often are you watering? 3 to 4 days
Type and strength of ferts used? AFF and MOL every other

Here are the pics of the current clones and Flowering (hopefully) females.

Soil Diagram:


HEIGHT/SEX Chart - I will be updating this regularly


Clones not sure if they are all female yet, but some are for sure are.



This is actually conf 1e not confie which it may look like :)


Here is a confirmed BCR female


Canopy shots:



I take a lot of photos, but I didn't want to put to much up right off the get go.
I will be posting a lot of up dates and just general thoughts on my grow.
Please ask anything and all comments, questions and concerns are welcome.

:peace: and until next time stay green
 
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MONDAY UPDATE - FLR Room Day 9 - CLONES Day 13

Well I was away for the weekend and it is the first time I have left them. I was very nervous about leaving them. I know that everything is automated (well the lights and air system) but it is still hard not seeing them everyday.
I came home and found a few balls hanging out in my grow room :( This was expected as I didn't have fem seeds for the gov, rb and bcr. I of course was hoping for all females.
so I chopped down the boys and I think the remaining 9 are all girls.
I will post a new height/sex chart tomorrow along with better pics.

FLR DAY 9
Here are the pics of the FLR room. sorry they are sooo bad. I will take better ones tomrrow.





CLONES - Day 11
They are all looking pretty good and I think the rest are ladies - YEAH -


 
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Mid Week Update

So I had to cull 6 males yesterday :( However that leaves 8 healthy beautiful FEMALES!!! :party:
I have:
2 BCRs (BC Roadkill)
2 CCs (Confidential Cheese)
4 RBs (Resin Bombs)

Here is the current Height/Gender Chart


Here is the current configuration in the FLR room
This is CC2 who was topped and has at least 4 main tops


Here is my favorite CC1


Random group shot


Here is the RB (never tried before so hoping as good as the CC which is dynamite


CLONES: WHICH ARE ALL FEMALE NOW!!! whoot
I will be starting a Height Chart for them tonight





I finally finished assembling my supply rack. I hate clutter so this puts my OCD at rest
 
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Can't answer your dehumidifier question, but I just wanted to say good luck with your second grow. Much love to you and your wife, hope she does well always! Amen for MJ. :green_heart:
All good and thanks for being the first poster!! Thanks I have changed quit a bit with this grow from my first so I need all the luck I can get.
I knokw right its truly amazing what this most perfect piece of nature can provide to us.
:peace: and LOVE to you and yours as well.
 

Hash Hound

Plant of The Month: 2012 - Creme de la Creme Photos: Dec 2016, June 2017
Looks nice MSq

You mention MOL ferts, what is that?

And the Shake n Feed, is that a CRF like Osmocote?

How was the smoke you grew with the MG Organic soil? Good taste?
 
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Looks nice MSq

You mention MOL ferts, what is that?

And the Shake n Feed, is that a CRF like Osmocote?

How was the smoke you grew with the MG Organic soil? Good taste?
It is an abbreviation of molasses (organic blackstrap molasses) to be exact.

That is exactly what it is and here is a picture of the back of the container. This stuff really has everything our beloved plants could want. :cheer:



It was really fantastic!! I can't rave enough about the flavor. I took mg organic and perlite 4 gal containers. I didn't feed until week 3 of flr and then I used an orchid bloom chem fert (1/4 str at first and then 1/2 str towards the end) with alaska fish fert and mol every other feeding and then in between I used just water and mol. I just really wanted to take to another level so I built this new soil receipe based on a few others I have seen out there.

I hope this all helps and thank you so much for those questions!
:peace:
 
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~~Mid Week Picture Update~~

Here are the 8 in the FLR room.
I have a couple of girls that are just getting to hot in there and I think the mg prils are releasing too much fert into the soil and they are burning because of it.
my 800btu ac is a portable one that has a small bucket that fills up and shuts off. I am going to construct a much larger sealed res for it to dump into so it doesn't shut off every 2-3hrs ( i am hoping to get a good 24hrs before having to empty it). duing the day I am gone from early morning to 6ish each night. so I am not home to empty it.

Here is CC2 and she is a beaut!! she grows with such vigor!!


Here is a random canopy shot


Here are the 2 CCs and an RB


Here is another group shot. the one in the back is 1 of 2 of my BIG BCRs


Here is another group shot of the Right Side


CLONES CLONES CLONES


I just really love this photo


I hope everyone enjoys these. please don't hesitate to give me comments, questions or concerns. Everything is welcome here!
:peace:
 
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Good Morning 420!!! Its Friday and as most of us we LOVE Fridays
I had quite the busy time last night.
I had to transplant RB5 as it was not happy at all, poor little girl. I think she really got burnt from the leach of the prils.
I also took 8 more clones off of cc1 and cc2.
Here are the pics of the cc clones this morning and they really look STRONG:
Dome On


Dome Off


Here are the first set of clones now on Day 17 of being cut


Ya know what I just realized I had 100% success rate with the clones. I hope I have it again with these new 8 CCs!
I really like to keep my temps at 80 and my humidity at 85 until roots start to show which should be in 3-4days as that was what the last batch showed through their peat pellets.

I also reworked my portable 8000btu ac last night to use the continious drain feature to empty into a closed container. I 1 shut off my dehumidfier which lowered the temp about 8 degrees and with lights on last night ( I run mine from 7pm to 7am) so the temp were right 77 last night and when the lights went out this morning it was 68!! so the few ladies that were feeling the burn from the mg prills should be recooping within the next few days!!! YEAH YEAH. I am so very happy I finally got this all sorted out.
I hope everyone here at 420 has a great weekend.
:peace:
 
Looking good, MSquared!

Yeah, a dehumidifier makes warm air. I just let my AC pick up that heat too, since I use a sealed environment. The AC will act as a dehumidifier to some degree, so if your AC does a good enough job, you might be able to leave the dehumidifier off for now. Just keep an eye on it, because when the temps outside change the AC may not be as good of a substitute dehumidifier because it may run less.

Some people may say using MG nutes is a bad idea because it can burn your plants. And it can. Of course, most nutes can. I would say that if you find the right combo to keep them healthy, you flush well, and you are happy with the result, go right ahead. Just be careful about the burn. You could just flush 10 gallons of water through each pot if they get too 'hot' nute-wise.

The plants look great. Nice and green and I didn't see any unhealthy plants. Some have the leaves curling under. Look at the leaf tips - I bet they're a little burned. But as long as they are otherwise healthy (as they are) it's only a warning and not a big deal. Mine are like that in veg a lot 'cause I push them a bit. And some of those look like they are starting to wilt, but that may be when you were gone over the weekend and they got a little over-dry.

Please don't think I'm bagging on your grow. Just sharing what I see so maybe it'll help. I like your style here and I'm subscribed. I look forward so seeing these girls grow. :Namaste:

:peace:
 
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Looking good, MSquared!

Yeah, a dehumidifier makes warm air. I just let my AC pick up that heat too, since I use a sealed environment. The AC will act as a dehumidifier to some degree, so if your AC does a good enough job, you might be able to leave the dehumidifier off for now. Just keep an eye on it, because when the temps outside change the AC may not be as good of a substitute dehumidifier because it may run less.

Some people may say using MG nutes is a bad idea because it can burn your plants. And it can. Of course, most nutes can. I would say that if you find the right combo to keep them healthy, you flush well, and you are happy with the result, go right ahead. Just be careful about the burn. You could just flush 10 gallons of water through each pot if they get too 'hot' nute-wise.

The plants look great. Nice and green and I didn't see any unhealthy plants. Some have the leaves curling under. Look at the leaf tips - I bet they're a little burned. But as long as they are otherwise healthy (as they are) it's only a warning and not a big deal. Mine are like that in veg a lot 'cause I push them a bit. And some of those look like they are starting to wilt, but that may be when you were gone over the weekend and they got a little over-dry.

Please don't think I'm bagging on your grow. Just sharing what I see so maybe it'll help. I like your style here and I'm subscribed. I look forward so seeing these girls grow. :Namaste:

:peace:
Thanks so much for stoppin by! Please suggest/critque "bag" anytime LOL. You/everybody is always welcome.

~~Monday update~~

we will start with the youngest clones, which are on Day 4 and look extremely strong:


Here are the Day 20 Clones which are in veg now 18/6 with the 12 cfl light bank.
It has 4 3500k 23 watt cfls and 8 5500k 23 watt cfls in it. It worked great last time I used this in veg.


Here are the big girls: they are on Day 16 of 12/12 with 2 600w hps and a 16 2700k 23watt cfl light bank.
I watered/fed this morning with 168z of water + 2tbl of AFF + 10ml mol
They are huge and I will have the height chart tomorrow for the flr girls and veg girls
This is my pride and joy conf 1

Here is BCR4 and she is looking better:

Here is a shot of right side and you can see BCR2 in the back, she is huge!

This is a random canopy shot:


i hope everyone enjoys and keep the questions/comments coming!
:peace:
 

Twelve12

Member of the Year: 2011 - Member of the Month: Oct 2011 - Nug of the Month: Jan 2012 - Plant of the Month: Feb 2012
Which part of the amazon jungle is this? heh, looking great man. Lots of trees. On for the ride to see how awesome these plants produce being as big as they are.
 
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Which part of the amazon jungle is this? heh, looking great man. Lots of trees. On for the ride to see how awesome these plants produce being as big as they are.
:19: it would be the part that haven't deforrested yet :)

Thank you very much for stopping by. should be quite a show over the next 6 or so weeks (hopefuly 6 and not more).

Come by anytime!
:peace:
 
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~~GOOD MORNING 420!~~

Here is a little update for you all. The ladies in the FLR Room have all started to bloom, I mena flowers everywhere. I will take a lot of pics tomorrow. I know sorry I couldn't get them this morning, but I will get them for tomorrow.

Here is the height charts I mentioned:
This one is of the FLR room and d@mn are they big...


Clones Height Chart
They are all female and I will fill this out every week going forward on wednesdays


I hope everyone enjoys and has a great day.
I have an entire excel workbook of data I collect from my grows and this is my first page.
It has helped me so much. sometimes you forget something you haven't done for a couple of months so instead of recreating the wheel I write (or type in this case) it all down.
I hope this can help someone as it has helped me.


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~~INFORMATION and PICTURE UPDATE~~

some good news and some bad...
Here is the bad, I found another d@mn male in my FLR room :( serious bummer...
Here are the 3 clones that I had to kill to as a result of RB5 having balls...



Here are the newest clones now on day 7, no roots yet, but hopefully very soon.


Here are the oldest clones at day 22


Her is conf 1e that I have been photo documenting she is on day 22 as well


Here are a bunch of shots of the FLR room on Day 18:






I hope everyone enjoys and as always please let me know if you have any questions/comments!
:peace:
 
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~~CLONES HEIGHT CHART UPDATE~~

I watered the clones this morning, they took in about 10z in a 1/2gal pots. They are all growing really fast, I def think some of them have hit the true veg stage. I am hoping to get them big enought to put into the FLR room by 9/3 that will give them about 3 weeks veg. I want them to be at least 18+ inches so if they are not that size I will postpone the time they enter FLR.
Let me know what you guys think!
Here is the Clones Height Chart:


Have a great 420 day!!
:peace:
 
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~~Friday Picture Update~~

Well everything seems to be going as scheduled (well at least for now - lol).
I watered/feed the girls in FLR this am.
They each received 168z of water and 2tbl of AFF and 10ml of mol.

FLR Room Day 20
Here is some early minor bud porn for all to see:








Here are the clones on DAY 24


They are getting much bigger and some of them will start to out grow their pots soon. Looks like I will be doing some transplanting soon... I think I am going to take them straight to the big pots as I know they are girls already.

I hope that everyone here at 420 has a great weekend!!!
:peace: