Delps8
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Environment Info
Strain - AK-48
Number of Plants? 2
Growth Stage? Flower - week 1
How Long? 4 sets of nodes on 7/20/17 = 45 days
Indoor or Outdoor? Indoor
Grow Type - Hydro
Reservoir Size - 35 gals capacity, 28 gals to refill to 1/2" below net pot
Reservoir Temperature - 68 ±0 (Active Aqua chiller)
Medium - Started in rockwool
Hydro Setup - RDWC
Size (Wattage) of Light? How Many? 1 "600" watt LED, mfg says it draws 320 watts but KillaWatt reports 400.
Is it Air Cooled? Yes, cooled by internal fans.
Temperature of Room/Cabinet? Running a portable AC for the last week. Temp range has been 74 - 79.
RH - Average high about 72%, average low about 68%
PH - 5.8, has varied from 5.3 to 6.1
Pests - None known
Type and Strength of Fertilizers used? Fox Farm hydro nutes at about 50% recommended strength. Using the 420magazine.com "Wonder Chart" for analysis.
Size or Square Footage of Room? 2' x 4' x 8'
Using an EC + temp + pH monitor and really like it. Active Aqua water chiller is excellent for my needs. The RO unit feeds a 55 gallon cistern in the garage. The cistern temp is about 80 (August in Southern California) and the chiller brings the res down to 68 in < 6 hours.
Hydro unit has "top feed" which I shut off after the plants developed a good root system.
Problem Statement
Grow is in week 3 of flower.
My plants have had what looks like a cal mag deficiency for a couple of weeks. Strange thing about this two plant grow - "Norah" is 51" tall, "Nancy" is only 33". Norah has shown some signs of this issue over the past few weeks but none now. She is growing incredibly quickly and the only issue I see is some nute burn. I've pumped out some of the res to drop the PPM from 620 to 570 to try to resolve that.
Nancy is a different story. Compared to Norah, her growth is "stunted" and, she hasn't grown much during the stretch of the first few weeks of flower. Her leaves, per the pix, are impacted by what my newbie brain sees as a cal mag deficiency.
When I flipped to lower, I dicked up and used the wrong EC==>PPM conversion factor so I was using a nute level 40% above what I thought it was. Fixed that about a week ago. I've also had problems with pH dropping. For example, 5.9 to 5.3 (once) which tech support at Fox Farms and Botanicare indicated was nothing to be alarmed about.
For the past few days, the numbers indicate that the res has been dialed in. The plants have been taking on water, and PPM and pH have been steady at 600 and 5.9, respectively. I realize that 5.8 is optimal but I haven't wanted to change anything since the numbers are so consistent.
Since I'm seeing a little nute burn in Norah, I just pumped out out 6 gallons and replaced with RO water. The res at a 0.8 EC/570 PPM and pH is 5.8.
My concern is Nancy. Per the pix, it looks like something that CalMag could resolve but I'd appreciate feedback from "those who have gone before me". IIRC, a symptom of magnesium deficit is that the vein in the leaf gets lighter - I'm seeing a bit of that. The biggest symptom is that the leaves have light to medium brown spots and they appear on existing leaves but not on new growth. Per the advice of Fox Farms tech support, I've cut off leave that were heavily damaged by nute burn but I'm not keen on lopping off these leaves - the damage is on a limited surface area and my hunch is that maybe 25% of the large fan leaves have some level of damage.
I appreciate feedback on what steps to take to resolve the issue that Nancy is facing. Thanks much.
Strain - AK-48
Number of Plants? 2
Growth Stage? Flower - week 1
How Long? 4 sets of nodes on 7/20/17 = 45 days
Indoor or Outdoor? Indoor
Grow Type - Hydro
Reservoir Size - 35 gals capacity, 28 gals to refill to 1/2" below net pot
Reservoir Temperature - 68 ±0 (Active Aqua chiller)
Medium - Started in rockwool
Hydro Setup - RDWC
Size (Wattage) of Light? How Many? 1 "600" watt LED, mfg says it draws 320 watts but KillaWatt reports 400.
Is it Air Cooled? Yes, cooled by internal fans.
Temperature of Room/Cabinet? Running a portable AC for the last week. Temp range has been 74 - 79.
RH - Average high about 72%, average low about 68%
PH - 5.8, has varied from 5.3 to 6.1
Pests - None known
Type and Strength of Fertilizers used? Fox Farm hydro nutes at about 50% recommended strength. Using the 420magazine.com "Wonder Chart" for analysis.
Size or Square Footage of Room? 2' x 4' x 8'
Using an EC + temp + pH monitor and really like it. Active Aqua water chiller is excellent for my needs. The RO unit feeds a 55 gallon cistern in the garage. The cistern temp is about 80 (August in Southern California) and the chiller brings the res down to 68 in < 6 hours.
Hydro unit has "top feed" which I shut off after the plants developed a good root system.
Problem Statement
Grow is in week 3 of flower.
My plants have had what looks like a cal mag deficiency for a couple of weeks. Strange thing about this two plant grow - "Norah" is 51" tall, "Nancy" is only 33". Norah has shown some signs of this issue over the past few weeks but none now. She is growing incredibly quickly and the only issue I see is some nute burn. I've pumped out some of the res to drop the PPM from 620 to 570 to try to resolve that.
Nancy is a different story. Compared to Norah, her growth is "stunted" and, she hasn't grown much during the stretch of the first few weeks of flower. Her leaves, per the pix, are impacted by what my newbie brain sees as a cal mag deficiency.
When I flipped to lower, I dicked up and used the wrong EC==>PPM conversion factor so I was using a nute level 40% above what I thought it was. Fixed that about a week ago. I've also had problems with pH dropping. For example, 5.9 to 5.3 (once) which tech support at Fox Farms and Botanicare indicated was nothing to be alarmed about.
For the past few days, the numbers indicate that the res has been dialed in. The plants have been taking on water, and PPM and pH have been steady at 600 and 5.9, respectively. I realize that 5.8 is optimal but I haven't wanted to change anything since the numbers are so consistent.
Since I'm seeing a little nute burn in Norah, I just pumped out out 6 gallons and replaced with RO water. The res at a 0.8 EC/570 PPM and pH is 5.8.
My concern is Nancy. Per the pix, it looks like something that CalMag could resolve but I'd appreciate feedback from "those who have gone before me". IIRC, a symptom of magnesium deficit is that the vein in the leaf gets lighter - I'm seeing a bit of that. The biggest symptom is that the leaves have light to medium brown spots and they appear on existing leaves but not on new growth. Per the advice of Fox Farms tech support, I've cut off leave that were heavily damaged by nute burn but I'm not keen on lopping off these leaves - the damage is on a limited surface area and my hunch is that maybe 25% of the large fan leaves have some level of damage.
I appreciate feedback on what steps to take to resolve the issue that Nancy is facing. Thanks much.