Oh No - It's A Green Hole! - Reverse Thrusters! - Dammit - Too Late!

[Conradino23]

With MG it depends strictly on the dose, small to medium euphoric, speedy and creative, medium to high psychedelic and disorientating.

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[Weaselcracker]

I started a new journal. Just something for the solo cup grow, and some sort of interim dumping ground to keep me out of trouble, before I get around to thinking of a 'real' journal.

 

[sassafras¥]

I started a new journal. Just something for the solo cup grow, and some sort of interim dumping ground to keep me out of trouble, before I get around to thinking of a 'real' journal.

Nice grow journal bro. Again thnx 4 stopping by mine, means allot. Was briefly reading where you're WW kept having issues. Did you ever figure out what was up with her? Just asking cause I have a Querkle that's doing the same damn thing right now. First I thought either nute burn, none of my other ladies was showing any signs and my ppms at the time was only mid 500 range, so I adjusted them and tried that, no help.... so I thought to myself hmmmm maybe calmag, tried that. Even tried flushing before fixing anything, still she's acting silly. Who knows what her deal is... lol even her clones are acting like this...

 

[Weaselcracker]

No I never figured it out. After two runs of it. Each of which were complete messes, and lots of flushing, feeding high, feeding low- adding a dash of this and a dash of that- none of which worked- I decided to just move on and not grow it.
Just to use up seeds, I grew one again recently in the solo cup grow contest. It was the same story all over again- the only plant of the bunch that hated life and refused to cooperate. Maybe it just wanted to live in a different ph range than the rest.
Someone did tell me that WW can be a real calmag hog. I don't know... It's not like I did much systematic testing. I could have just been going in circles

 

[Weaselcracker]

 

[Tead]

 

[The Germinator]

Hi
Here are a few Things going on
- in my grow at the moment....

My White Widow plant is looking definitely worse- though I cut back the nutes more, again. I should know what the problem is but I don't. I was assuming nute burn.
Maybe someone will come along who can help me on this- and I will post some pics of it at some point- but for now I'll move on to a couple other things.

Other Stuff Going On-

As I mentioned - I am/was having mold issues with my ripest Mama Thai. I told you I hooked up the dehumdifier. However, it turns out the dehum was leaking, so the water it produced, instead of running through the hose attached to it, and down my drain, was pouring on the floor next to the unit and pooling in an obscure corner of the room. So I'm not sure how much it's been helping. Probably a little bit. Fixed that now, obviously.

However- I found one more big bud with mold so I cut it down. That's six of the biggest buds gone from the. MT so far. I haven't lost much though. It's almost ripe- was mostly mold free and useable and I'll smoke it myself.
Anyway- while I was discovering that moldy bud I discovered a seed or two- and then on further inspection- nanners!

This is the first flowering of this MT plant, from seed. The other MT is a reveg and didn't have nanners last round. So it's either the plant genetics, and/or a light leak accident. The latter is possible because I noticed my dehum has a small yellow light on top, which I've now covered, and also I'm worried I may have accidently let a glimmer in through the door once or twice in the last month.

Anyway- I'm not worried about any of these things. Haven't taken any real losses yet. Well, the WW plant does bother me a little, but I'll sort it out.
Anyone grown it who has some input re it's feeding habits? Or are all the 'White Widow' strains completely different from one another? This one is from Seedsman.

Ok Next,
here in the vortex of
The Green Hole,
even though it's highly doubtful that anyone out there is actually listening, I'm going to do a little review of some HPS sunglasses I recently got, which helped to make this wondrous new journal possible.

I wasn't going to start a journal till I found a way to take decent photos under the Hps. I find that pics taken under led or Hps look very bad, unless somehow light-balanced afterwards. I could not find a way to post process pics on my iphone and come up with a decent picture. These sunglasses work as a camera filter, besides working as eye protection.

They are called Lumii Growroom sunglasses.

In appearance they are kind of upscale safety glasses. Better quality than your average bottom of the barrel safety glasses, and more styley, though lacking the heft and strength of expensive sunglasses. They definitely look like they're up to the wear and tear of the job, as long as I don't step on them or anything.

They look alright on me. I look cool enough in them that I think I could blend in well enough anywhere with them on, and I doubt if the mean kids at the beach would kick sand in my face because I look ridiculous in them, even though they are tinted blue.

My flowering room looks great through them! I can see much more clearly and it's relaxing on the eyes. I also don't have that nagging worry anymore that I'm killing my vision. The glasses are comfortable enough to wear, and I can't think of any issues I have with their performance.
They work nicely to filter my iphone camera. A little awkward to hold against the phone- but I'm not complaining. Here are a couple pics for comparison.

UNFILTERED

FILTERED

They cost me a little over $20.

Oh yeah

One More Thing

I'm making a new drying box for the flowering room.

My current box is too tall. I'm converting a fridge for the task. I grabbed it from the recycling junkman guy yesterday.
It's not really what I wanted- any plain light proof box with a door that shut well would work, and the fridge is insulated, which I don't think I need, and was a bit of a hassle to drill holes through, but it should work and it was what I found when I looked yesterday.
I modified the door and replaced the interior side, which had shelves to hold milk and butter trays and stuff, with a sheet of plasticky material

I will control the air flow through the box, and therefore drying time, with a computer fan which lays on top of the 3" hole I jigsawed into the top of the fridge. The fan will operate possibly wired up in conjunction with a humidistat, if I have one around somewhere. Up till now I've adjusted the air flow rate (on my current drying box) by just sliding the fan around so it covers less or more of the hole, or removing it completely.

*One note*- and another reason a fridge may not be the best choice- this fridge had been drained of freon by the junkyard guys, and I removed the motor and tank from the back and left it with them.
Freon is a toxic substance so don't go cutting apart that area of a fridge unless you have a way that you can deal with that issue.

It's no masterpiece but it's shorter and less clunky than the old box, and I can stack a plant on top of it- which is going to be a really great because right now it's very cramped trying to shuffle those scrog plants around. I have a place I can stack a plant on the other side of the room. So now I can stack the two plants, which are front and center, both out of the way and access the other six plants. which will be awesome.

Once I get some racks for it. Which will mean another junkyard run soon.

Ok friends, that's it for now. Most of you are probably sleeping peacefully by now, and that's what I should try to do as well. So... goodnight!

I posted a pic of the exact same fridge,almost ,just yesterday asking for ideas. cool i found this. i posted in the lounge. anyways, what technique is that youre using? scrog? very inspirational grow. will be following you. all aboard, choo choo!!

 

[Weaselcracker]

Hey Dugy. Nice to see a little life in the old journal again.
Yeah I still use that fridge. I probably drilled more holes in it than necessary, but I regulate the drying speed by blocking offf some of them (lean a board against the side or kick the fridge right in to the corner against the walls, etc). It's working fine. I most like that I can stack a a big heavy potted plant on top of it- that much more maneuvering space in a crowded room.
Still scrogging. Come over to my new journal if you like. It's kind of a scrap heap. Nothing much exactly happening there, but once in a while I find something to post about, or whine about as Tead likes to put it.

 

[Tead]

How the hell do both Lex and I still have a subscription going to this old ass thread.
Meh... at least I'm in good company.

 

[lexort420]

Haha guess we never unsubscibed when he made the new journal lol

 

[Gavinsgardens]

Alright.
Good day everyone. I'm starting a journal.
I'm going to start with just the basic facts and I will blather more after that. Of that you can be sure. But in the meantime in case someone wants to know the general grow situation here is that info.



JOURNAL NITTY GRITTY

- Alright here is the nuts and bolts of what is going in in the grow room these days.

- It is a 8x12' room overall about 7' high, divided into two rooms -to make a perpetual grow. The outside climate is quite cool and humid year round. During lights-on the thermostat controlled fan kicks in to bring in fresh cooling air from outside. During lights-out the room doesn't generally heat up, so the fans do not come on. RH gets extremely high ( usually in the 80s but often in the 90s ) especially during lights -out, as the temps drop, plants transpire, and no fresh air comes in. I have been in a borderline situation keeping bud rot at bay for years. I recently bought a dehumidifier which I'm hoping will help with this.

FLOWERING ROOM

- I'm flowering in a (roughly) 8' x8' room.

Left side- two Mama Thai plants on left about a month apart in age. Blueberry back right. White widow front right, has some problems.

This is the right side. Four pineapple chunks including the one in front left which I just wrangled into a screen tonight.




SCROG

- I made individual screens 24"x 19". They're supported by aluminum shafts stuck in the pots and I can shuffle the pots around to work though it's a bit cramped. Four screens fit under a light. As of a few weeks ago this is the first time I've had a full set of 8 screens going.

POTS

- A mix of 7-10 gallons. The ten gallon ones I only filled with about seven gallons of 'soil' but they are big enough that they hold the supports for the scrog screens well.

PLANTS

- This is a mixed bag of strains. I'm trying a couple new ones and also growing a couple favorites.
Currently I have growing

~2 Mama Thai - 100% sativa. One reveg, one straight from seed.
~4 Pineapple chunk - indica dom- One reveg, and three other clones of plants that I grew from seed last one round.
~1 White Widow ( Seedsman)
~1 Blueberry. (Seedsman)

- I just harvested a GSC mystery cross tonight and replaced it with yet another pineapple chunk. So that one escapes the journal. It's not that I'm in love so much with the PC but it was just the biggest plant in the veg room and ready to move, so in it went. I have a patient that likes it so I suppose they'll be happy in a few months if all goes well

LIGHTING

- HPS lights. They are dimmable- one is 300- 600+, the other one is 600- 1000+ (+ meaning the super lumens setting which is about a 10% power boost)
I pretty much always keep the two flowering lights set at 600.


GROWING MEDIUM

- Currently sunshine mix #4 which is basically peat moss and perlite. I've been mixing powdered beneficial fungi and bacteria into it before the plants go in.
- Water is rainwater which falls out of the sky at 5.6 PH

PH

- 5.8 - 6.2

FLOWERING NUTRIENTS

- Botanicare Power Flower, Grow, Cal mag, Hydroplex
( haven't tried this yet)- and the occasional tea with various beneficial ingredients.

TEMPS

- Currently in the 72 - 80 range

RH

- This was in the 50 - 85% range this week but I'm plugging in the dehumidifier tonight, as I just discovered my precious Mama Thai buds started showing a spot of bud rot. So I should be able to bring the RH into a better range as of tonight.

VEG ROOM

- This is a space about 3.5' x 3.5. It's pretty crowded at the moment and I'm figuring out it's a little small for vegging biggish plants. But for now I'm making it work.

PLANTS

- 13 plants if I counted right. There is a variety of strains, pot sizes, and plant sizes. I have examples of all the strains growing in the flowering room, as well as a freshly sprouted Thai Stick seedling.


LIGHTING

- Dimmable MH 300- 600+ watts.

VEG NUTRIENTS

- Basically just the Botanicare grow formula. But when I look in there I see some other bottles I've acquired. This stuff gets splashed in to the mix as well. I'll list them in rough order of how much I use them
Cal mag
Liquid Karma
Molasses
GH Subculture M&B - beneficial fungi and bacteria
Hydroguard - beneficial bacteria
Zho - beneficial fungi
Silica (I just got this and haven't tried it yet)


CLONING

- I do this off in one corner of the veg room, under a cfl. My current method is to take cuttings ' the usual way' and clone in rockwool, but then put the rockwool/ cuttings in a tub of moist coco coir. I don't put a dome on, but my RH is naturally high which maybe accounts for why things are fine without the dome. The coco stays at a happy moisture, generally without any further touching up, during the ten days or so before roots form.

PESTS & PROBLEMS

- No pests in there these days except for me.
Problems, hmmm, I've got a few of those but I'll deal with those as we come to them I suppose. At the moment things are going pretty well. Some days this whole thing is a teetering house of cards ready to collapse but hey that's life. This is a seat of the pants, skin of the teeth growing situation.

Tricky business having different strains and having different watering for flowering and vegging plants , I keep to one strain , and one set of plants flowering in a room , much easier to control humidity and what feed you have to use , also a fan underneath the Scrog gently blowing up will really help , air circulation along with temp is the key ,, also try a bathroom humidity sensor extraction fan ,,, pretty cheap

 

[Weaselcracker]

Wow a blast from the past. Hey @Gavinsgardens thanks for popping in.

My fresh air from from outside is usually around 100% RH so more extraction makes things worse, not better. But this is an old journal. Eventually I bought a dehumidifier which has pretty much saved the day.

I still grow multiple strains. I’d be bored just growing one. Usually somewhere between 12 and 16 though I’m not sure how many at the moment. I’ve gotten used to it. The grow ticks along well without me most of the time.