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[SmokingWings]

Coming soon to this spot is going to be 42 or the number from which all meaning ("the meaning of life, the universe, and everything") can be derived. I figure that @RedskinnedRhino is familiar with this even though it is not a SIP grow.

It will be a photo journal of two plants taken from the basement and placed outside. The idea was to give them enough time, about two to three weeks, in the new pots to allow for fresh root and above ground growth.

Every couple of days I took photos of the two and after some sorting through them there are enough to get started. Hoping that shortly after harvest the photos here in this thread will have caught up with the harvesting stage on the kitchen table.

Light them if you want...I will.

 

[Roy Growin]

I used to know Douglas Adams - very intelligent, laid back and funny man

 

[SmokingWings]

Figuring that outdoor flowering will start between the 5th and 15th of August it was time to get the ball rolling. So, starting the photo journal with July 18,'24.

This photo for today's entry is a Papaya strain and the 2nd of two plants I will be growing outside this year. This plant was grown from a seed that that I had in the fridge since Nov of 2017. The person that gave me the seed handed over a small baggie's worth of them that had been in his kitchen cupboard over the stove for about 4 years near as he could remember. That would make the seed about 10 or more years old, so yes, old seeds do sprout and grow.

On the 18th I transplanted it from a pot containing about 1.25 gallons of soil into this one which I had already filled with 5.75 gallons of my 'natural soils' mix. I moved the center of the soil off to the side, popped the plant out of the smaller pot, ripped some of the lower roots off and crammed it into the 5.75 gallons of soil, pushed the soil back around it and tamped it down. Nothing delicate and nothing happening to the plant that worried me.

The photo shows some earlier Mite damage on the lower leaves and just a tad bit more up closer to the top. Plus maybe a bit of Powdery Mildew on a couple of leaves. Off to a good start with some of the common problems other growers encounter.

After all this the plant was moved to the 'stealth' area. The other plant is a Peanut Butter Cup, a clone from a clone and so on. It is about the 5th, maybe 6th generation but I would have to look it up to be sure. Anyway, the PBC was put in its pot with just over 4 gallons of soil on July 15th and then placed in the 'stealth garden' area. The photo of both plants, side by side, will be coming up in another day or two.

Notes: dSLR, taken on 7-18-24, 1/60 sec, f 3.3, iso 80, flash-auto

 

[RedskinnedRhino]

Coming soon to this spot is going to be 42 or the number from which all meaning ("the meaning of life, the universe, and everything") can be derived. I figure that @RedskinnedRhino is familiar with this even though it is not a SIP grow.

It will be a photo journal of two plants taken from the basement and placed outside. The idea was to give them enough time, about two to three weeks, in the new pots to allow for fresh root and above ground growth.

Every couple of days I took photos of the two and after some sorting through them there are enough to get started. Hoping that shortly after harvest the photos here in this thread will have caught up with the harvesting stage on the kitchen table.

Light them if you want...I will.

gotta ask the right questions if you want the right answers.

 

[SmokingWings]

The photo from July 23rd shows both plants. The Papaya from seed is on the left and the Peanut Butter Cup clone on the right.

Not easy to see in this photo is the color difference between the two. The PBC is a much darker green, almost a blue-green color.

Also, the PBC is in a slightly smaller pot, approx 4 and 1/2 gallons if I remember right.

A bit out of focus but in front and to the right is one of my oldest Rosemary plants, over 25 years old. Rosemary is recommended as a companion plant in the garden because it repels and discourages many pest insects including Spider Mites.

 

[Roy Growin]

The photo from July 23rd shows both plants. The Papaya from seed is on the left and the Peanut Butter Cup clone on the right.

Not easy to see in this photo is the color difference between the two. The PBC is a much darker green, almost a blue-green color.

Also, the PBC is in a slightly smaller pot, approx 4 and 1/2 gallons if I remember right.

A bit out of focus but in front and to the right is one of my oldest Rosemary plants, over 25 years old. Rosemary is recommended as a companion plant in the garden because it repels and discourages many pest insects including Spider Mites.

Taking Rosemary and Lavender cuttings from a neighbour this week

 

[SmokingWings]

A week later it this photo taken July 30, '24.

There might not seem like much has happened over the week since the previous photo but the thing to look for is that the Papaya is growing faster than the PBC. It seems to have gained several inches.

A little harder to see is that the green colors still show the PBC being a darker green than the other. This is especially noticeable on the newer fan leaves and growth.

Still no signs of flowering starting. I do not count any preflowers that might be showing at the nodes since those are a single stigma/pistil which will wither up within days anyway.

 

[RhastaBlasta]

A week later it this photo taken July 30, '24.

There might not seem like much has happened over the week since the previous photo but the thing to look for is that the Papaya is growing faster than the PBC. It seems to have gained several inches.

A little harder to see is that the green colors still show the PBC being a darker green than the other. This is especially noticeable on the newer fan leaves and growth.

Still no signs of flowering starting. I do not count any preflowers that might be showing at the nodes since those are a single stigma/pistil which will wither up within days anyway.

I would probably not plant the lady near so many other plants, but this one seems to be all right, just need it's time

 

[SmokingWings]

I would probably not plant the lady near so many other plants, but this one seems to be all right, just need it's time

It is a stealth grow. Michigan law allows us to grow in our backyards but the plant cannot be seen by the general public if they drive or walk by. There is a privacy fence between us and the neighbor. The back and the other side are a driveway and parking lot for a social organization. The fence there is cyclone and the shrubs still have not grown high and thick enough to block the view. Also, the local police will sometimes park in the shade of one of my trees and watch traffic or take their break so I have to keep the plants hidden. Kind of being stuck between the classic rock and hard place.

Behind these two plants is a clump of "ornamental grass" and a clump of a flowering perennial plant which blocks the view of anyone in the neighbor's yard so no valid complaint that any children in that yard can see the plants.

I have blocked the rest of the view best I can by placing other plants, yard chairs and picnic tables. Over the past couple of years even people who know I grow and know what the plant looks like will often walk past the plants and not realize they were there.

 

[Roy Growin]

It is a stealth grow. Michigan law allows us to grow in our backyards but the plant cannot be seen by the general public if they drive or walk by. There is a privacy fence between us and the neighbor. The back and the other side are a driveway and parking lot for a social organization. The fence there is cyclone and the shrubs still have not grown high and thick enough to block the view. Also, the local police will sometimes park in the shade of one of my trees and watch traffic or take their break so I have to keep the plants hidden. Kind of being stuck between the classic rock and hard place.

Behind these two plants is a clump of "ornamental grass" and a clump of a flowering perennial plant which blocks the view of anyone in the neighbor's yard so no valid complaint that any children in that yard can see the plants.

I have blocked the rest of the view best I can by placing other plants, yard chairs and picnic tables. Over the past couple of years even people who know I grow and know what the plant looks like will often walk past the plants and not realize they were there.

Crazy that junk food, cigarettes, alcohol are all broadly and positively advertised, yet you have to hide a medicinal plant

 

[SmokingWings]

Crazy that junk food, cigarettes, alcohol are all broadly and positively advertised, yet you have to hide a medicinal plant

There is that but Cannabis for medicinal or recreational use can be advertised here, even on billboards along the freeway and signs in front of buildings. Cigarettes cannot be advertised on billboards, radio or TV in Michigan. Alcohol advertising is also heavily restricted and limited mostly to ads on TV sports events.

Currently the advertising of Cannabis is no where near as restricted as that of alcohol or tobacco.

It is the plant that has to be hidden from public view. Using binoculars/telescopes, cameras, or standing on ladder or the roof in order to see the plant does not count. Even smelling the plant is no reason to claim that the law is being violated.

In the long run my main reason for hiding the plant is to prevent it from being ripped off by some kids who will think they have found the stairway to heaven.

 

[Roy Growin]

There is that but Cannabis for medicinal or recreational use can be advertised here, even on billboards along the freeway and signs in front of buildings. Cigarettes cannot be advertised on billboards, radio or TV in Michigan. Alcohol advertising is also heavily restricted and limited mostly to ads on TV sports events.

Currently the advertising of Cannabis is no where near as restricted as that of alcohol or tobacco.

It is the plant that has to be hidden from public view. Using binoculars/telescopes, cameras, or standing on ladder or the roof in order to see the plant does not count. Even smelling the plant is no reason to claim that the law is being violated.

In the long run my main reason for hiding the plant is to prevent it from being ripped off by some kids who will think they have found the stairway to heaven.

Wow - worlds apart
Here they're still plugging away at alco-pops, 'energy drinks', bubble-gum flavoured nicotine vapes, barely edible junk and questionable fashion trends on social media

 

[Joe Brewster]

In the long run my main reason for hiding the plant is to prevent it from being ripped off by some kids who will think they have found the stairway to heaven.

Getting ripped off is sadder than having Mother Nature take it away.

 

[RedskinnedRhino]

Getting ripped off is sadder than having Mother Nature take it away.

Mother nature crushed my outdoor plant last night. She's a real mean broad.

 

[Joe Brewster]

Mother nature crushed my outdoor plant last night. She's a real mean broad.

She can be giving & taking
At least you know she is not profiting on your hard work

 

[SmokingWings]

I would probably not plant the lady near so many other plants, but this one seems to be all right, just need it's time

I noticed your comment earlier and then got side-tracked and forgot about it. There are two plants there.

The thread starts off with the transplanting of the second plant into the final pot.

Should have the next photo coming up shortly after I get a chance to do cropping, etc.

 

[SmokingWings]

The next photo from a couple of days later taken on 08/01/24. We had a brief storm with some wind and heavy rains. I can see the way the two plants reacted with their slight droop to the leaves. That droop went away within an hour of the photo.

Something else I noticed was the drops of water still on the ornamental grass and other plant in the background. Those drop reflected the camera flash. Also the Rosemary plant in the right front shows that the flash went off.

The interesting part is that over the past couple of days the Papaya is catching up to the PBC. Plus the PBC still has that deeper green color.

1/60 second, f 4.9, ISO 200, Exposure Program=Creative, flash-auto

 

[SmokingWings]

A jump from the previous photo of August 1st to the next chance to take some pictures.

Now up to August 11th. Changes have been taking place over the last 10 days. This first photo (below) shows that the Papaya plant has now grown noticeably taller than the Peanut Butter Cup clone with no signs that it will stop soon. And, the PBC, the plant on the right, still is a darker green leaf color even though both plants are watered together and both receive the same fertilizers and dosage.

Another thing to look at is that the PBC is showing a denser leaf growth while the Papaya has a more open appearance. Not as easy to see but still visible with a close look is that the Papaya has longer branches.

 

[Azimuth]

A bit out of focus but in front and to the right is one of my oldest Rosemary plants, over 25 years old. Rosemary is recommended as a companion plant in the garden because it repels and discourages many pest insects including Spider Mites.

How about thrips, work on them too?

 

[Roy Growin]

How about thrips, work on them too?

I use Marigolds and Chives on the veg plot which seems to work - you get the odd one, but they don't like it and move on
Also grow Nicotiana flower to steep as an insecticide for aphids/blackfly/leaf miners & mites
Doesn't kill them, but they don't stick around