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Opioid Tapering With Cannabis: A Regimen

Alafornia

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My doctor told me when I went for my medical MJ card that it is Best to get a 1:1 ratio or a 1:2 ratio of THC/CBD and that it works best when it in the same bud. He said it can work if you add a CBD strain with a THC strain but it is Best to get it from the same Plant, Strain Bud :51: What have you found to work best ? Also can members recommend a good 1:1 or 1:2 ratio strain ? I plan to grow my own medicine and want to buy some seeds with these ratios in mind. I suffer from Chronic Pain, Depression, and fatigue along with other aliments. Looking forward to some suggestions Thank You
What has been and is happening in medicine is terrible.

I'm going to disagree about both coming from the same plant. I don't think it matters and taking from two different plants may increase the cannabinoid profile and therefore create a better entourage effect.

I will defer to SweetSue, but you may want to lay down a baseline 1:1 oral intake, starting low and going slow to reach the desired effect and then supplement with smoke and other means of administration. This is similar to using methadone for extended relief with another shorter acting between doses when needed. The oral takes longer to kick in but lasts much longer (6-8 hours vs 2-4).

Wedding Cake/Pink Cookies (available from Canuk seeds from sponsor TrueNorth) is a good strain for pain, depression, anxiety, sleep. Orange Sherbet is another strain good for depression and anxiety (and pain?). Both are high THC strains. White Widow or White Russian may work. Harlequin and similar strains offer a more balanced ratio of CBD:THC. We have one member who is fond of Hidrow, a 2:1 CBD:THC strain.

This new venture will take some research on your part and very likely some experimentation, too. Good luck on your journey. We will try to help you along the way.
 

PCaddict

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What has been and is happening in medicine is terrible.

I'm going to disagree about both coming from the same plant. I don't think it matters and taking from two different plants may increase the cannabinoid profile and therefore create a better entourage effect.

I will defer to SweetSue, but you may want to lay down a baseline 1:1 oral intake, starting low and going slow to reach the desired effect and then supplement with smoke and other means of administration. This is similar to using methadone for extended relief with another shorter acting between doses when needed. The oral takes longer to kick in but lasts much longer (6-8 hours vs 2-4).

Wedding Cake/Pink Cookies (available from Canuk seeds from sponsor TrueNorth) is a good strain for pain, depression, anxiety, sleep. Orange Sherbet is another strain good for depression and anxiety (and pain?). Both are high THC strains. White Widow or White Russian may work. Harlequin and similar strains offer a more balanced ratio of CBD:THC. We have one member who is fond of Hidrow, a 2:1 CBD:THC strain.

This new venture will take some research on your part and very likely some experimentation, too. Good luck on your journey. We will try to help you along the way.
Thank You, I am glad I have gotten some really good suggestions from the members. I have tried a few different strains but most were high THC because it comes from my buddy who gets some from states where it is MUCH cheaper then it is in Ohio at dispensaries it is $59.99 for a tenth of an ounce. I do buy CBD strains at the dispensaries to add in with the other, I just cant afford it too often. 2:1 CBD:THC is what my Dr. recommended I will check out the Hidrow , I bought some Harlequin a few months ago but a tenth of an ounce doesn't go very far.... I have also tried ACDC and Electric bubblegum but I can only afford a tenth each month so it doesn't go far which is why I will be growing my own medicine. I have been looking at super soil or Living Soil. I want to build my own living soil start some 1:1 or 2:1 strains I am new to growing so I know I have a lot to learn. The members have been Really helpful and I appreciate all the input and suggestions. I plan to look at all the strain recommendations you made as well as others suggestions. I would rather use edibles then smoking but I do also smoke it in the evenings. I don't like smoking that much I have COPD as well as all the other stuff so edibles is what I prefer. I bought the Magic Butter Machine and you have to use an ounce at a time to make stuff in it so I cant make a lot until I can Grow, Dry and Cure my own which takes a little time. Once again Thank You for the input:rollit::yummy:
 

Derbybud

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Thank You I have looked it up and will order some seeds to try it.
A 2-1 cbd-thc again from the king is there CBDutch Treat. These 2 strains are very easy to grow. I use this one for my oils I take 3x a day.
 

PCaddict

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Blazenjones high cbd strains seem to be showing more and more positive results for a lot of things. My wife has a lot of neck pain so we needed to find relief without a lot of high for day time. ACDC works wonders. Almost no thc with a lot of pain relief. Then there's Aliens on Moonshine which is a 5/1 cbd/thc strain that works great also. Smoking or oil puts you in a good place. This is just my opinion but they do work.
Bill
I looked up Aliens on Moonshine and it looks good. Its not sold by the places I have been looking at to order seeds from. I found it on Choice seedbank. I got ripped off from one seed supplier so I am leery of where to order from. I would Love to get some seeds and try my hand at growing some.
 

PCaddict

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This is amazing @SweetSue I'm a recovering addict an I wish more people could understand the benefits of cannabis.. I've been on suboxone for over a year now from a 8 year long opioid binge that turned into heroin binge I was only 15 maybe 16 i was struggling with life couldn't fit in so i fit myself into the "kool" crowd which eventually got me into pills i had no intention of becoming an addict one day friend hands me a xanax it was like love at first sight then I moved onto blues aka perc 30s aka legal death.. which turned into heroin when I could affoard the 25 dollars a pill x5 a day you can see how that would be extremely stressful at 17yo. I finally had enough and sought help but I had already destroyed my life ruined my family's life even tho they never gave up on me. At the time I was 24 altho I went to a rehabilitation in cali which was the most horrific experience of my life the nurse feed me my suboxone before I was ready an it thru me into particpatied withdrawal anyone familiar with it knows how awful imagine withdrawal x100 fold not exaggerating. My point being is that if I were able to use cannabis at the time I might not have taken my dose early I woulda been able to sleep and i wouldn't have wanted to kill myself form the godawful pain vomiting and full week with 0 sleep I wouldn't wish what i went thru on my worst enemie. I made it thru the week of no sleep or food couldnt keep anything down plus the whole time i had severe bowl issues from years of using got back home and it wasnt easy I almost relapsed ex gf,money,depression issues... so I decide to get suboxone off the street before I did something really stupid like relapse on heroin after everything I went thru now it's a year and a half later I'm still on my self prescribed 2-4mg of suboxone a day I started at 4-8mg a day. I'm ready to be done with all of it now and honestly cannabis is what has helped keep my dose down this long once my babies are ready to harvest I plan on following your guidelines so I can finally be 100% free of this nightmare that robbed me of some of the best years of my life. Thank you so much sue I wish there were more people like you who understand how hard it really is an that cannabis is an amazing medicine.
I also went through YEARs of opioid use, I had a bad break up with my x wife. I was on HEAVY meds from my Psychiatrist. I am Bi-Polar so it through me into a depression so bad I slept 20 hours a day for two years. My brother introduced me to a girl, He didn't know she was a crack head. one time she came over and put something in a glass tube and smoked it then she wanted me to try it I did and it was off to the races. For the first time in years I wasn't depressed, I felt like I had won the lottery when I hit it. after years of that the dealers started giving out caps of Boy so I tried it and another 8 years went by. I ODed 3 times then went septic I was in ICU for 21 days I had renal failure, Liver failure, etc. They told me it was a miracle I survived. The doctor agreed to put me on Methadone, High dose then in April this year they cut me off all at once. It has bee Really Bad. I had also been on Vics and perces for years. Now that I am off Opioids I will not go back to them unless it is short term for surgery etc. I hope you stay the course and use mother earths best medicine Cannabis. That's what I plan to keep doing. Good Luck and I enjoyed reading your post
 

Alafornia

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I only on my first grow but I use super soil myself. Not once have I added anything to my water to change the pH or add nutes so far. Have to be careful to not overwater but other than that it's relatively low maintenance. It is a chore to get started (has to compost 6-8 weeks) but that work pays off later.

Great job getting off the harmful stuff and finding this medicine.
 

PCaddict

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I only on my first grow but I use super soil myself. Not once have I added anything to my water to change the pH or add nutes so far. Have to be careful to not overwater but other than that it's relatively low maintenance. It is a chore to get started (has to compost 6-8 weeks) but that work pays off later.

Great job getting off the harmful stuff and finding this medicine.
I am doing my first grow too I have pictures posted in the growing section. I plan to start building a living soil in a couple weeks so it will be ready by winter to start some plants the end of or mid March put them in my greenhouse. Thanks for the positive replay
 

PCaddict

Active Member
I only on my first grow but I use super soil myself. Not once have I added anything to my water to change the pH or add nutes so far. Have to be careful to not overwater but other than that it's relatively low maintenance. It is a chore to get started (has to compost 6-8 weeks) but that work pays off later.

Great job getting off the harmful stuff and finding this medicine.
My pictures are under the( I need a good super soil recipe)in the growing section. Do you have any pictures of your grow ? I would Love to see them. We got a late start so my plants are still kind of small. I hope I can finish them before winter hits and I hope I don't have to move them in doors My wife can not stand the smell. She can tell if I take the bag of ground bud and load my bowl hours before she comes home...…… :48:
 

Alafornia

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My pictures are under the( I need a good super soil recipe)in the growing section. Do you have any pictures of your grow ? I would Love to see them. We got a late start so my plants are still kind of small. I hope I can finish them before winter hits and I hope I don't have to move them in doors My wife can not stand the smell. She can tell if I take the bag of ground bud and load my bowl hours before she comes home...…… :48:
You have some good looking plants.

Here's a link to my latest photo dump in my grow journal: Alafornia's 1st Time Multistrain Medical Grow
 

Alafornia

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The soil is key.
 
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