Outdoor Grow Gorilla Glue In Soil

CBDbud

Well-Known Member
1st of all, Happy New Year to all. :snowboating:

I'm planning an outdoor grow, in my backyard, of 6 Gorilla Glue plants for the 2021 grow season, somewhere in SoCal. My goal is to harvest absolutely "top shelf" buds in totally organic, living soil with no liquid nutes. I've done this with other strains with good success.

However, I'm trying to cut the learning curve way down this time. So, I have some Q's about nutrient requirements.

Basically, I'm asking: Is Gorilla Glue a heavy feeder, light feeder, or what? This is at the heart of everything that I'm asking here. And, of course, whether I have the right proportions of ingredients in my soil.

OK... Let me start with the soil mix(es) that I've used so far and what I've learned so far with other strains I've done this with. My hard fought search for great soil ended up with my recipe for "grow" Super Soil:

“Custom” (Grow) Super Soil

Per each
32 gal trash can:
  • 2 bags of “F.F.O.F” 1.5 cf each (or 17” - old soil)
  • 1 bag Worm Gold Plus 0.7 cf
  • 1 bag Bu’s Blend Compost 1 cf
  • 2 cups Steamed Bone Meal
  • 2 cups Fish Bone Meal
  • 1 cup Gypsum
  • 6 cups Blood Meal
  • 3 cups Green Sand
  • 5 cups Insect Frass (NOT used in 2020, using in 2021)
  • 2 cups Rock Phosphate
  • 3 cups grow Bat Guano
  • 3 cups of Sea Bird Guano (0-11-0) (for 10 gal & above)
  • 6 cups Kelp Meal
  • 5 cups Neem Meal
  • 1/3 cup Magnesium Sulphate
  • 1/4 cup Dolomite Lime
  • 1/2 cup Azomite
  • 1 TBS powdered Humic Acid
  • 5 Gal of Perlite
  • 3 Gal of R O Water (more as needed)
And then my "bloom" Super Soil:

“Custom” (Bloom) Super Soil

Per each
of 6, 32 gal trash cans:
  • 2 bags of “F.F.O.F” or “Base Soil” - each bag = 1.5 cf
  • 1 bag of “Worm Gold Plus” Earthworm Castings (0.7 cf each)
  • 1 bag of Bu’s Blend compost (1 cf)
  • 2.5 cups Bone Meal - steamed (3-15-0)
  • 2.5 cups Fish Bone Meal (3-16-0)
  • 3 cups of Blood Meal (12-0-0)
  • 1 Box of Sea Bird Guano (0-11-0)
  • 3 cups Rock Phosphate (0-3-0)
  • 8 cups Alfalfa Meal (2.5-0.5-2.5)
  • 5 cups Soybean Meal (7-1-2)
  • 6 cups Kelp Meal (1-0.1-2)
  • 3 cups Green Sand
  • 2 cups Bio-Fish (7-7-2)
  • 1 cup Gypsum
  • 5 cups Insect Frass (3-1-2)
  • 5 cups Neem Seed Meal (6-1-2)
  • 1/3 cup Epsom Salt (Mag. Sulf.)
  • 3 TBS Dolomite Lime
  • 1/2 cup Azomite
  • 1 TBS powdered Humic Acid
  • 3 Gal of R O Water (more as needed)
  • 5 Gal of Perlite (to be added on day of using)
I use trash cans to compost the soil for about 4 or 5 weeks. Then the grow Super Soil is used for each larger repot, as needed. when bloom season nears, I dig a large hole in my backyard and transplant each girl using the bloom Super Soil, composted the same way as the grow Super Soil. Once the girls are in the ground, I supplement with compost tea at least once a week and top dressing if they need it later in the season. But top dressing is minimal once I got this soil this rich.

I have used this method for a few years and I thought things were good. White Widow strain loves this mix; so does Critical Mass, Blue Berry CBD, CB Dutch Treat, among others.

And then there came my Purple Haze. 1st year, Purple Haze had VERY dark jade green leaves, purple stems and clawed leaves. First, I thought, oh this is just how this strain is supposed to be. Until the harvest proved me wrong. Lots of fox tailing and a little looser buds than they should be. I Searched for answers on the web and discovered a discussion somewhere out there that said Purple Haze is not a heavy feeder. When I found other posts that described the symptoms of nitrogen toxicity as the very same dark green leaves, purple stems and the clawing leaves, I was like: "What?!!!". So, last year I grew 2 more Purple Haze, one with the same soil mix as the year before and the other with a different mix... basically cutting down on the nitrogen. See below:

Cstm. Purple Haze (Bloom) Super Soil

Per each
32 gal trash can:
  • 1 bag “FFOF.” = 1.5 cf
  • 1 bag “FFStrawberry F.” = 1.5 cf
  • 1 bag “Worm Gold Plus” Earthworm Castings (0.7 cf)
  • 1 bag Bu’s Blend compost (1 cf)
  • 3 cups Bone Meal - steamed (3-15-0)
  • 3 cups Fish Bone Meal (3-16-0)
  • 2 cups Blood Meal (12-0-0)
  • 1 Box Sea Bird Guano (0-11-0)
  • 3 cups Rock Phosphate (0-3-0)
  • 8 cups Alfalfa Meal (2.5-0.5-2.5)
  • 4 cups Soybean Meal (7-1-2)
  • 6 cups Kelp Meal (1-0.1-2)
  • 3 cups Green Sand
  • 1 cup Gypsum
  • 1/3 cup Epsom Salt (Mag. Sulf.)
  • 3 TBS Dolomite Lime
  • 1/2 cup Azomite
  • 1 TBS powdered Humic Acid
  • 3 Gal R O Water (more as needed)
  • 5 Gal Perlite (to be added on day of planting)
I was so amazed, and pleased, with the results. Not only were the buds so much denser, the entire plant looked completely different. Gone were those jade green leaves and purple stems. Plus this girl gave me almost 50% more buds. And they were so good!

So, all this finally leads me to why I'm here. Does anyone know what the do's and don't are around the soil for a Gorilla Glue outdoor grow? I am simply trying to not have to experiment year after year in a lost search to discover that secret Super Soil recipe.

Any highly experienced outdoor growers seeing this? I'm sure there are. I have learned that this site is SO full of highly skilled and knowledgeable growers. I can hardly wait to see who chimes in. I welcome all to give their 2 cents. Of all the sites that I've perused, you guys are the greatest... hands down. The only thing is that... I don't know if I'm in the correct area of this site. So, if this post needs to be placed elsewhere, let's do that too. I appreciate everyone and thank you. :yummy:
 

TysonOG

Well-Known Member
I grow indoor dwc . . with liquid nutes lol, so very different from you. But I have grown plenty of strains and I'd say on a feeding scale of 1-10 gorilla glue was a 6 in my experience. She was one of the easiest and didn't show any deficiencies or excesses throughout her grow. Maybe that'll give you a good base to start, she's not a heavy feeder but not the lightest either.

For what's it worth, my haze strain, Liberty Haze, I'd say is a 4/10 and the white widow I'm currently growing is proving to be a 8/10.
 

CBDbud

Well-Known Member
I grow indoor dwc . . with liquid nutes lol, so very different from you. But I have grown plenty of strains and I'd say on a feeding scale of 1-10 gorilla glue was a 6 in my experience. She was one of the easiest and didn't show any deficiencies or excesses throughout her grow. Maybe that'll give you a good base to start, she's not a heavy feeder but not the lightest either.

For what's it worth, my haze strain, Liberty Haze, I'd say is a 4/10 and the white widow I'm currently growing is proving to be a 8/10.
Thank you @TysonOG. Even though you're methods are different, you've given me some very useful info. Your inclusion of the other strains and how they differ validates my experiences with White Widow and Purple Haze. This helps a lot. Thanx so much. :Rasta:
 

CBDbud

Well-Known Member
Running G od OG outside as well. New to the strain. Any input welcome.
Hey there @Mbunaaddict. Yeah, I'm new to G G here too. All of my "girls" are new to me this season. In-fact, I've made so many changes to my grow routine that it seems like I'm either incredibly brave (like I know what I'm doing, :19:) or I'm incredibly foolish. I'm hoping for the former. Wish I could be more helpful.

Drop by anytime... :smokin:
 

Kikibonds79

Well-Known Member
1st of all, Happy New Year to all. :snowboating:

I'm planning an outdoor grow, in my backyard, of 6 Gorilla Glue plants for the 2021 grow season, somewhere in SoCal. My goal is to harvest absolutely "top shelf" buds in totally organic, living soil with no liquid nutes. I've done this with other strains with good success.

However, I'm trying to cut the learning curve way down this time. So, I have some Q's about nutrient requirements.

Basically, I'm asking: Is Gorilla Glue a heavy feeder, light feeder, or what? This is at the heart of everything that I'm asking here. And, of course, whether I have the right proportions of ingredients in my soil.

OK... Let me start with the soil mix(es) that I've used so far and what I've learned so far with other strains I've done this with. My hard fought search for great soil ended up with my recipe for "grow" Super Soil:

“Custom” (Grow) Super Soil

Per each
32 gal trash can:
  • 2 bags of “F.F.O.F” 1.5 cf each (or 17” - old soil)
  • 1 bag Worm Gold Plus 0.7 cf
  • 1 bag Bu’s Blend Compost 1 cf
  • 2 cups Steamed Bone Meal
  • 2 cups Fish Bone Meal
  • 1 cup Gypsum
  • 6 cups Blood Meal
  • 3 cups Green Sand
  • 5 cups Insect Frass (NOT used in 2020, using in 2021)
  • 2 cups Rock Phosphate
  • 3 cups grow Bat Guano
  • 3 cups of Sea Bird Guano (0-11-0) (for 10 gal & above)
  • 6 cups Kelp Meal
  • 5 cups Neem Meal
  • 1/3 cup Magnesium Sulphate
  • 1/4 cup Dolomite Lime
  • 1/2 cup Azomite
  • 1 TBS powdered Humic Acid
  • 5 Gal of Perlite
  • 3 Gal of R O Water (more as needed)
And then my "bloom" Super Soil:

“Custom” (Bloom) Super Soil

Per each
of 6, 32 gal trash cans:
  • 2 bags of “F.F.O.F” or “Base Soil” - each bag = 1.5 cf
  • 1 bag of “Worm Gold Plus” Earthworm Castings (0.7 cf each)
  • 1 bag of Bu’s Blend compost (1 cf)
  • 2.5 cups Bone Meal - steamed (3-15-0)
  • 2.5 cups Fish Bone Meal (3-16-0)
  • 3 cups of Blood Meal (12-0-0)
  • 1 Box of Sea Bird Guano (0-11-0)
  • 3 cups Rock Phosphate (0-3-0)
  • 8 cups Alfalfa Meal (2.5-0.5-2.5)
  • 5 cups Soybean Meal (7-1-2)
  • 6 cups Kelp Meal (1-0.1-2)
  • 3 cups Green Sand
  • 2 cups Bio-Fish (7-7-2)
  • 1 cup Gypsum
  • 5 cups Insect Frass (3-1-2)
  • 5 cups Neem Seed Meal (6-1-2)
  • 1/3 cup Epsom Salt (Mag. Sulf.)
  • 3 TBS Dolomite Lime
  • 1/2 cup Azomite
  • 1 TBS powdered Humic Acid
  • 3 Gal of R O Water (more as needed)
  • 5 Gal of Perlite (to be added on day of using)
I use trash cans to compost the soil for about 4 or 5 weeks. Then the grow Super Soil is used for each larger repot, as needed. when bloom season nears, I dig a large hole in my backyard and transplant each girl using the bloom Super Soil, composted the same way as the grow Super Soil. Once the girls are in the ground, I supplement with compost tea at least once a week and top dressing if they need it later in the season. But top dressing is minimal once I got this soil this rich.

I have used this method for a few years and I thought things were good. White Widow strain loves this mix; so does Critical Mass, Blue Berry CBD, CB Dutch Treat, among others.

And then there came my Purple Haze. 1st year, Purple Haze had VERY dark jade green leaves, purple stems and clawed leaves. First, I thought, oh this is just how this strain is supposed to be. Until the harvest proved me wrong. Lots of fox tailing and a little looser buds than they should be. I Searched for answers on the web and discovered a discussion somewhere out there that said Purple Haze is not a heavy feeder. When I found other posts that described the symptoms of nitrogen toxicity as the very same dark green leaves, purple stems and the clawing leaves, I was like: "What?!!!". So, last year I grew 2 more Purple Haze, one with the same soil mix as the year before and the other with a different mix... basically cutting down on the nitrogen. See below:

Cstm. Purple Haze (Bloom) Super Soil

Per each
32 gal trash can:
  • 1 bag “FFOF.” = 1.5 cf
  • 1 bag “FFStrawberry F.” = 1.5 cf
  • 1 bag “Worm Gold Plus” Earthworm Castings (0.7 cf)
  • 1 bag Bu’s Blend compost (1 cf)
  • 3 cups Bone Meal - steamed (3-15-0)
  • 3 cups Fish Bone Meal (3-16-0)
  • 2 cups Blood Meal (12-0-0)
  • 1 Box Sea Bird Guano (0-11-0)
  • 3 cups Rock Phosphate (0-3-0)
  • 8 cups Alfalfa Meal (2.5-0.5-2.5)
  • 4 cups Soybean Meal (7-1-2)
  • 6 cups Kelp Meal (1-0.1-2)
  • 3 cups Green Sand
  • 1 cup Gypsum
  • 1/3 cup Epsom Salt (Mag. Sulf.)
  • 3 TBS Dolomite Lime
  • 1/2 cup Azomite
  • 1 TBS powdered Humic Acid
  • 3 Gal R O Water (more as needed)
  • 5 Gal Perlite (to be added on day of planting)
I was so amazed, and pleased, with the results. Not only were the buds so much denser, the entire plant looked completely different. Gone were those jade green leaves and purple stems. Plus this girl gave me almost 50% more buds. And they were so good!

So, all this finally leads me to why I'm here. Does anyone know what the do's and don't are around the soil for a Gorilla Glue outdoor grow? I am simply trying to not have to experiment year after year in a lost search to discover that secret Super Soil recipe.

Any highly experienced outdoor growers seeing this? I'm sure there are. I have learned that this site is SO full of highly skilled and knowledgeable growers. I can hardly wait to see who chimes in. I welcome all to give their 2 cents. Of all the sites that I've perused, you guys are the greatest... hands down. The only thing is that... I don't know if I'm in the correct area of this site. So, if this post needs to be placed elsewhere, let's do that too. I appreciate everyone and thank you. :yummy:
Sounds super cool can’t wait to see your Gorilla Glue I’m growing a few of them
 

CBDbud

Well-Known Member
Sounds super cool can’t wait to see your Gorilla Glue I’m growing a few of them
Yeah, they're coming along pretty good. This early in the season always seems slow to me. I'm pretty swamped with other projects and obligations, but I'll have more pics up over the coming weekend or thereabouts.

Until then... :smokin:
 
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