no the oval leaves dont count as a node (not to my knowledge) it all depends on what you want to do man..i know people that tie their plants down before they start to flower...and i know poeple that start to train them once they are 4 nodes high....enough to bend to the ground..
thanks for the advice you 2. I think that im gonna start the tiedown process once the 4th node appears. that seems to be the consensus time. thanks once again, and i'll post some pics later to show progress.
well for starters it would make your plants look less like the classic marijuana plant. if you had a bush instead of a tree it might be harder to be seen by unwanted eyes. i've never grown outdoors though so i'm just guessing...
the reason for my outdoor LST is that i am growing my plants in pots out on my outdoor deck. i want to keep the plants around 2-3 ft tall altogether. i also hope to have the "bush" effect rather than the "christmas tree" effect. My intent is for them to blend in with some of the other plants and bushes that i have on my balcony.