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Pennywise

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This is the reason I posted that thread then I missed it LMAO. Not that there's anything wrong with the Angelica because there sure doesn't seem to be. I found the White Lotus to be the most interesting of the 2 Bodhi strains.

When you look into the strains used for each hybrid and read just about them. Both The White and Snow Lotus are incredible strains. While I don't think this strain will be more consistent than the Angelica. When you consider pheno hunting and find one incredible plant I think this one has a higher up side. Now that we can self strains that single pheno in a F-1 hybrid is lots more valuable. Maybe the hybrid won't mix well. BUT if it does?

See? It is thinking like that that has been driving this mind of mine for years. I always back check all the info I can on each strain in a hybrid. What you read about them and where in the hybrid they are used can tell you a lot.
And the source of the parent strains is very important to me.
 

Jackalope

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Have you been to strainfinder Pennywise? It is one of my main stops for strain research. Not all but lots of strains have grower input ratings. From what I have found the ratings are pretty spot on. I don't know about the low rated strains LMAO. Because the strains that are highly rated have all did really well for me. I am to scared to run the lower rated strains. Which is weird. We both know that everyone likes different things. Just because it wasn't right for one person does not mean everyone will see it that way.

The Really cool part. When you research White Widow you can choose the one you are growing. They have reviews of most the White Widows on the market or being grown. The do have clone only strains which is good.

You can research that part also. If a strain is a clone only and you see tons of hybrids or seeds of it you can draw your own conclusions.
 

Pennywise

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Yes you have to be very careful with clone only strains. If it's seed it has to be S1's or Feminized but still iffy when it comes to "feminized"
 

Jackalope

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You are right. With lots of strains if it is not a S-1 than it will have a hybrid like variety. Even selfing can bring surprises if the strain itself is not very stable. The apple pheno of Critical I get is one of those special treats you find when that happens.
 

Pennywise

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S1's can be very different from one another but usually you'll find one exactly like the mother. And you can find far better than mom in the mix.
 

Jackalope

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I totally agree Penny. When things start changing from mom lots can happen. I think that is where all these totally different flavors and smells are coming from. Somewhere along the line they are extending their terpene profiles. Like you mentioned sometimes it is the THC content is different too.

I like that in what I am growing. Once you have a pretty good idea that the THC content is high enough. New smells, flavors and THC content are a bonus.
 

Jackalope

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Cannalope Haze. Boy I like this strain. Even with all the newer stronger strains out there. I have grown lots of them. I knew this when I grew the strain again. I am just surprised how well it satisfies me even with a high tolerance. One Phenotype is all laugh your ass off old school sativa. You want the happy weed you had as a kid this is it. Play time with the cats is so funny you are almost tired when it is over. That's good weed there bro!

This only brings me to the point that I need to figure out how I plan to hybridize it. I know for sure this is the strain I will make Headband Haze with. I also plan to feminize/self Cannalope. But where else would this work?

Everyone knows I like to breed. Now that I have lots of random genetics to grow. I can now start being lots more selective. As of now I only have a couple strains I plant to breed with. Having males is the main reason.Knowing the effects is the other. As easy as they are for growing. Feminized seeds are harder to make. A basic F-1 is easier and should create more seeds. When I start up feminized is going to matter a lot less.

I now know the effects I like and kind of where to find them. Now it is time to see if mixing those effects gives me the outcome I want. The Headband Haze I plan is a easy one. It is what I mean about the mixing of effects. After trying a dispensary version of it I did some research. Headband x Cannalope was one of the hybrids I found. It was so similar to what I know of these 2 strains I am sure this was it. I have both strains dried and smokable. I love them both. This blend is exactly like I want.

Thing is you can only blend strains so much then you end up with the bunch of the same shit. I don't want to wear out the specialness of Headband or Cannalope. Headband Haze would only join the rotation of strains. This way I can take a break from a strain and still have a similar product I can depend on.
 

Jackalope

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Smoke more? LMAO do you realize how much I smoke already?

Oh yeah you said if you are not high enough LOL.

Nice way to see what a strain can really do though. Late in the day when I have smoke a bunch of weed. Will a strain get you higher? Some do some don't. I have strains I really like the high of that don't have the power to make me lots higher in the evening. At night it has little effects. First high of the day it is a very nice ride. Perfect rainy day weed.

The indicator that I did good this year is I only have a few strains that fall in this category. Genius is one of those strains and also the strain that is great rainy day weed. It is also a strain that has a ceiling. While it has a pleasant potent high. It only gets you so high. It does get you there fast it just won't take you beyond that.

The Genius I have is NOT something you could just smoke more of to get higher. No worries I have plenty that will LMAO.
 

Jackalope

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Nothing like going back through the old genetics book. You find lots of things that you missed. Mostly I noticed I REALLY need to update my book. On the bright side there are more strains added than there are missing ones. Some were grown but more were added LOL.

One of the real treats I found was Sand Storm from Cannabiogen. I am not big on landrace strains but this one is different. It's been to a grow room and has been worked over. It is a Chitral Kush x Moroccan. The Moroccan has been with them long enough to get a special name. I forget what they call it. Thing is it is a nice mix of hash making strains. Both Kush and Hash Plant are in there. That is the main reason I got it.

While I have a Afghani Strain. It is a landrace one. Sand Storm has that little bit extra. The fact it has spent more time in a grow room is big.

I mentioned a few days ago about looking for something to breed my Cannalope Haze with. This could be it. I need to grow it first. Now that I have reread the original info I have on this strain it may be perfect just as it is. It is not that it is a overly powerful strain. It is their stated effects that catch my eye. Sounds like everything I am looking for just as it is. If so that's great. From now on I plan to only breed for effects. Any hybrids will now include 2 strains I already like the effects of not just one.

Along these lines. If the Sand Storm is happy weed as the explain it than it will be a perfect match to Cannalope Haze which has different enjoyable effects. Happy weed x Giggle weed = ????
 

Jackalope

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I don't know if it is in the terpene or not. I know they have a lot to do with the effects of Marijuana. While happy may come from terpenes. I think the Giggle part is in the THC.

Happy weed is easy. It is the stuff that as your eyes close slightly the muscles in your face pull your mouth into a smile. This effect can be referred to in many ways. Shit eating, Stupid, and a few more. Mostly it is a grin that just won't seem to go away. It must be a mind or muscle thing. When a smile is on your face planned or unplanned you seem to be happier.

Giggle weed while similar is something totally different. Mostly you find it in sativas. Most are probably on the lower THC level but not all. I have mostly found it in Thai and Mexican sativas. Maybe as we breed strains stronger we lose the giggle part. I hope not. Something about weed that can make funny shit hilarious I just love.
 

Pennywise

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That was what the old Colombians were all about, you just wants to go outdoors and throw a frisbee around. Big grin and everything was just funnier. Not easy to find with the latest hype strain of the month.
 

Jackalope

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I think the giggles are just hard to capture. To tell the truth I think it is in low THC levels. The stronger we are breeding strains we could be jumping right passed it.

Might be a good thing. Giggle weed makes laughter so easy. If you made it to strong you would just light up laugh for 2 hours than fall asleep LMAO.

What's really funny is I want that strain
 

Jackalope

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I can believe that. Probably wasn't any 30% strains at that time LOL. It is all about felt effects not percentages. Which brings us right back to personal preference.

It is going to be a long time before I figure it all out. It is all about what is in the trichome. Lots of shitty strains are covered in trichomes. Powerful strains are covered in trichomes too. The one thing I have learned is you can't tell shit by looking.

This last grow. The 3 frostiest plants don't have the greatest effects. They all seem to be plenty strong. I just didn't get the right combination of THC and terpenes to make them great. That is why finding that ONE phenotype is so important.

While I like Alpha Dawg and it is plenty strong. The effects doesn't hit me just right. Others may smoke this plant and find the best pot ever. At least in strength. It is easy to tell a few more terpenes might have put this strain over the top. The high is quite noticeable just not in the realm where I like it. Some heady strains float your head others blanket it. Alpha Dawg is a lead blanket
 
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