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Jackalope

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When water warms here I don't keep as many fish. Mostly for that same reason. It always seems the meat is firmer and better in the winter and spring months. Spawning times effect different fish at different times of the year. Lots of times the meat will get cloudy around spawning time. Except that brook trout lake. Only lake I have ever seen where fish don't loose anything around spawning time. They are so fat it never effects the meat.

I have told people of my mentors new battle with cancer. One thing it did do was light a fire under him to do some things he had always planned. He is working on strains again which is a good thing. His new project involves Granddaddy Purps.

Kind of cool to be able to get his take on it. It is supposed to be the bench mark for Purple strains. I don't see it. Or have never needed to see it. I have always thought that Purple Betty was better and stronger than Granddaddy Purps. Now we will know for sure.

Here is what we have already learned. Years back when my mentor was breeding Purple Betty. He looked at lots of different Purple strains. He even got some S-1 Purple Erkel. These plants are all short and freaky with lots of crinkled leaves with abnormal fingers. Now that the Grandaddy is up and growing he has found those same characteristics on 2 of the 10 plants. The same thing showed up in Querckle. This tells us a lot. The main thing is that the S-1 Eckle he got was real which is cool. He also crossed with it a Querckle that showed the same traits. Not sure if I need it with a bunch of Deep Purple seeds which is the same genetic make up.

The key thing is. With all these strains showing all the same characteristics. We know it is Eckle. It grows just like everyone says. Short wide plants with tons of internodes that make small rock hard nuggets. Erkle will never grow fast enough or produce enough to be worth growing for most people. That is why all the hybrids. Nowadays you can find a pheno in Deep Purple that grows better and has the same effects.

Pretty sure he is going to clone the Erkle leaning pheno. I am thinking about getting a couple. Not sure yet. I got him now thinking of crossing it with Purple Betty. If not him maybe me if I get clones and do the Purple Betty breeding program I have planned. There may be more flavor in this hybrid.

The biggest thing is. I will get to see Purple Betty and Grandaddy Purps side by side.
 

Jackalope

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Outdoor project is doing pretty good. I don't get to see them much but they are in good hands it seems. My friends wife spends lots of time with them but has never grown. It is her thing so I try not to get to involved. When its done I want it to feel like hers. Here is a quick look at them.

Here they are both together. The Dinafem Critical 2.0 is lots taller and showing lots of sativa traits.

Critical is getting tall. Still a little more veg time and a some stretch. No telling how tall it will get. Internode spacing is amazing outdoors. Even in this terrible growing climate.

CBDdurban is a bushy little beast. This plant had great structure when I grew it indoors. Outdoors the internodes are tighter and tons more of them. This thing is going to be impressive in flower if all goes well. Lots of extreme weather between now and then LMAO.
 

Jackalope

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Pennywise

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Jackalope

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I know. Sure glad we don't have that kind of shit indoors. Not that indoor growing doesn't have its own pitfalls. Just not ones that eat everything over night.

Now the game is to just see them survive to finish.
 

Orlando Scout

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Wow bro I didn’t think they were going to be that tore up, damn grasshoppers anyways!! I hope that stuff works as good as it did for me, it definitely saved my plants from the caterpillars.
 

Jackalope

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Nothing is working. They look even worse now. It would take way to much poison to create a big enough buffer zone for them. Hard when they are the only edible green out there. Going to look into bringing what is left indoors to finish. They are in the greenhouse now which gets way to hot. They won't last long there I don't think. Grasshoppers are killing everything around here. I have been amazed the last couple years of the damage they can do. Saw a ditch full of weeds get eaten down to nothing but stalks in just a day. Totally forgot about them when I agreed to help out with a outdoor grow. I am sure there is a way to do it here. This one wasn't it LMAO.

I have a light not in use right now might as well give it a try. I will update when I know more.
 

Pennywise

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Jackalope

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They have a place they say they can be moved too. I will be checking it out at the same time as I build it LMAO. If it is going to work anyway. Going to interesting. Going to have to train them a bit to make it work on the tall one.

Outdoor is doable almost anywhere if everything is planned out right. This go had shitty planning. All I did was choose genetics and the pots. No planning on environmental issues at all.
 

Jackalope

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LMAO. Never believe people when they say they have a perfect place to grow. I checked 3 of their places none of them will work. Green house will be way to hot for the month of August. Looks like they have to stay where they are. On the bright side it looks like the CBDdurban might make it. They don't seem to like it as much as the Critical 2.0 Grasshoppers have moved to the branches on the Critical now for some reason. Parts of it are still doing ok so who knows. It seems the worst is over. Good thing I don't have to watch this in person. Maybe when I go look at them next week things will be different.
 

Jackalope

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As it gets closer to start up time I am starting to reconsider the next grow. LMAO what is new.

Thing is it is for good reason. It is always best to not use your best seeds for a new start up. To much can go wrong. Even though I have run this same system before it will be in a different room in a different house. I am pretty good at solving problems now days. I know most of the problems that will pop up also. Still I would hate to screw up the breeding run I want to make with Purple Betty. It will also make things so much easier than trying to go full bore right from the start. It would be best to see how the house is going to work. I may have to do things different.

Lucky for me I have tons of genetics to use. I still need to make sure what I grow will take care of my needs. I just wont be growing certain strains I will need for breeding. Pretty nice when you have so many quality strains as back up. Of course I will have at least one regular strain. so I will have a male somewhere. not sure if I would want to use it so I plan to use a strain that I don't need to breed with. Or something I have no idea about and just use the male to see what happens. 9 lb Hammer and the Bodhi strains come to mind.

Thing is all the strains I would grow are highly rated on seedfinder. So I really wouldn't be losing much potency wish. The biggest thing is I really don't want to have to breed this run. Want to shoot for simplicity this time. The 2 strains of my own will probably stay the same. Its the others that will change.
 

Jackalope

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So lets vote. Plan A will be the original plan Plan B will be the new strains.

Plan A
Purple Betty
Super Silver Haze
Afgooie
Em Dawg
Twiller, C-99 x Headband
Tangiloe, Tangilope X Tahoe Og
Strawberry Banana


Plan B
9 lb Hammer
Acapulco Gold
Peyote Critical
Liberty Haze
Twiller
Tangiloe
+ freebie seed of some known strain.
 

Dankman_420

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I'm on my second run with 9lb hammer. It's middle of the road, average weed. I had 2 pheno's. One tall and larfy and one short with dense nugs. The tall one o only ran once, culled out it's clones. The shorter one is on its last run for me. It's not bad, just not special. IMO.... you might have better luck with it
 

Orlando Scout

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I get what your saying about not wanting to run your best get at first. So I would go with B, that way when you do run your top gear you will know what your environment is going to be like!! Can’t wait to see you grow the Tangiloe, the one I have outside is over 8ft tall now and still going!!
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Jackalope

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Damn. Great looking plant Orlando. I have really high hopes for that one. Tangie, Tangilope and Cannalope all made great buds. This is going to be a high powered sativa no matter what happens. If the Tahoe can bring what I wanted it to it should be even stronger.
 

Jackalope

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Dankman. Thanks for that update on the 9 lb. While it will fill the need of a practice run strain. Mediocre is my big bitch about strain's these days. I will drop it for sure for now. Still something I will look at someday. I really need to look at these Bodhi strains I have. Angelica is Hell's Og x 88g13 Hash plant. Similar to the 9 lb in ways. Might have a bigger upside than the 9 lb does.

There are other regular strains I need to look that might work their way in. I have a strain called Sandstorm. It is basically a land race Hash Plant x land race Kush. It is supposed to be a very sweet indica. Something I wanted to look at for a cross with Killer Queen in the future. There is a pheno in Killer Queen I really like that is sweet smelling and nothing like C-99. I want to have a great hash plant strain in my line up.

Who knows right now LMAO. I will probably go with the practice run though. No use making the start up harder than it should be. By the time I am ready I will have everything in place and no surprise's. It will also be a middle of the winter run which makes things lots easier.

I don't want a whole lot going on when I make my first summer run in the new house. I might even have a new LED light by the time summer comes. Plans for buying one now are on the back burner. I have way to much stuff that works perfect right now. I will have to change when I upgrade when needed.
 

Jackalope

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Random Thought ALERT!!!!!!!!!

The new regular strain for this next grow has finally been picked. Only going to run one regular strain this time. Some of my genetics might have males also so I need to be prepared. I wanted something that I wasn't chomping at the bit to breed with and still wanted to look at.

Orange Hill Special, Dutch Passion.

It actually has a pretty high rating "7.6" on seedfinder. My new gauge of what to grow. Not all strains there are rated there but enough are. I have found that their ratings are pretty accurate. Lately I am trying to only grow strains with a 7 or higher rating. Last 2 grows all my strains have rated over 7 and I was really happy with the outcome. Even with non rated strains you can kind of figure things out where they stand but comparing other similar stuff. Nothing wrong with growing the lower rated stuff. Some strains I really like are not rated well. It is a very good base line to go on.

Now about Orange Hill Special. It is one of the 3 best orange strains at the time I was stalking up on genetics. I am big fan of the Orange strains, they just have never been that strong. O.H.S. along with Tangie joined Agent Orange in my seed stock. I know I love Agent Orange so it will be grown last. I plan to breed with a male if one shows up. That is where O.H.S. comes into play. It could be the perfect strain for a hybrid. I have issues with Tangie's citrus flavor so I am not sure if I want it in my Orange strain. That leaves O.H.S. While I plan to self Agent Orange I want to make some regular seeds just in case. Now I will know what OHS has to offer.

It being a hybrid on the sativa side I don't really know where it is going to sit on the Couch Potato meter. That will make things interesting. Going to have to make some changes to the line up now. Plus while I didn't plan to breed with OHS there might still be a male. Wouldn't hurt to think of something that might mix well with it. The Acapulco Gold would have been perfect. (Lots of Mexican genetics) I am going to have to scrap it because of the Sativa thing. Winter time is a bad time to have to much sativa.

Here is where we are sitting now. ( I THINK LMAO )

Orange Hill Special
Peyote Critical
Blue Gelato 41
Twiller
Tangiloe

That leaves me with a lot of unknowns. That is another reason for using the rating's as a gauge. Lots of strains in the 5 to 7 range ratings are mediocre weed. That or they don't have a pronounced enough high for a better rating. That is the key I think. Higher rates come from strains that make themselves know. Lots of times that is because of felt feelings. Or that is my guess anyway. I will know more in a year or so if this rating thing is a good plan LOL.
 
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