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Rules for Radicals

Captain Kronic

Member of the Month: July 2011
Did some interesting (to me) reading on organizing and the power of the "Haves vs. the Have Nots" The work of Saul Alinsky.
I have never seen this info before... good stuff... I'm sure someone else here "an organizer" could make good use of some of this!
Anyways... there are some good sites w/lots of info for you up and coming Cannabis activists.

Just Google up:
Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky. These tactics are well researched and used by many world leaders including the present American President!
 
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Julie Gardener

New Member
Did some interesting (to me) reading on organizing and the power of the "Haves vs. the Have Nots" The work of Saul Alinsky.
I have never seen this info before... good stuff... I'm sure someone else here "an organizer" could make good use of some of this!
Anyways... there are some good sites w/lots of info for you up and coming activists.

Just Google up:
Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky. These tactics are well researched and used by many world leaders including the present American President!

Thanks Cap'n K...organizer on board, at least at home anyway...will have to look into that one just for the sake of it :thumb:

With all you smarties up in here this place is gonna get big :MoreNutes: Keep it comin...
 

Captain Kronic

Member of the Month: July 2011
Here's what I think is the most significant thing about these teachings... Hillary, Bill, OweBama... they are all very well versed in Alinskys rules... Hillary and OweBama even wrote their college thesis on Alinskys work... nuff said?
The point is... these are the type of enemies we are dealing with... I am a firm believer in knowing your enemy... peace out!
 

Julie Gardener

New Member
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Here's what I think is the most significant thing about these teachings... Hillary, Bill, OweBama... they are all very well versed in Alinskys rules... Hillary and OweBama even wrote their college thesis on Alinskys work... nuff said?
The point is... these are the type of enemies we are dealing with... I am a firm believer in knowing your enemy... peace out!

I did some homework Capt'n, didn't read the book but googled it and found that this type of strategy, 'Pick the Target, Freeze It, Personalize It and Polarize It'...'The ends justifies the means', is indeed well embedded in their political practice. :30: I'm not too up on politics and honestly was never really interested, but that was a good starting point. I won't make any judgements because I tend to like to see a everything before passing my opinions along. But I will say that I don't care for the tactic of scapegoating one bit! Thanks for the recommended reading my friend. :peace:

P.s...I would rather refer to them as a 'Challenge' instead of an 'enemy', but that's just me :)
 

Julie Gardener

New Member
Just saw this article...classic 'rules for radical' strategy! I can't believe it...

US government openly admits arming Mexican drug gangs with 30,000 firearms - but why?​

Friday, July 08, 2011

NaturalNews) It is now a widely-reported fact that under the Obama administration, U.S. federal agents actively placed over 30,000 fully-functional weapons into the hands of Mexican drug gangs, then halted all surveillance and tracking activities of where those weapons were going.

This is not a conspiracy theory, nor a piece of fiction. It is now an openly-admitted fact that this was pulled off by the BATFE (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, more commonly called "ATF") under orders from Washington. The program was called "Fast and Furious."

Even Reuters is now covering the news and reporting how members of Congress are outraged to learn that this happened...

Details are also starting to leak about the cover-up inside ATF, which was led by the U.S. Attorney in Arizona, Dennis Burke, an Obama appointee. The engineering of the illegal gun running went right up the chain of command to the director of the ATF, Kenneth Melson, who is now expected to resign. The real planning of this event went even higher up the chain of command in Washington, possibly all the way to Attorney General Eric Holder.

Among the firearms sold to the Mexican drug gangs were AK-47s, thousands of pistols and, remarkably, .50-caliber rifles which are typically used to disable vehicles or carry out sniper-based assassinations at extremely long ranges (up to two miles). The mainstream media is now reporting that these weapons are turning up in violent crimes being committed in Phoenix, Arizona. As an ABC news affiliate reports:

"According to the testimony of three Phoenix ATF agents, including Dodson, hundreds of weapons are now on the streets in the United States and Mexico, possibly in the hands of criminals. Dodson estimated the number could be as many as 1,800 weapons. He estimated agents in the Phoenix field division facilitated the sale of approximately 2,500 weapons to straw purchasers. A few hundred have been recovered."

How the "Fast and Furious" program put thousands of weapons directly into the hands of Mexican drug gangs

Here's how "Fast and Furious" worked: Under orders from Washington, ATF agents were specifically told to acquire these weapons using "straw" buyers in the USA, find new buyers in Mexican drug gangs, then sell the weapons and "lose track" of them. Although some agents raised concerns about the insanity, they were overruled by the higher-ups in Washington who wanted to pursue this policy for their own reasons. "It made no sense to us either, it was just what we were ordered to do, and every time we questioned that order there was punitive action," said Phoenix Special Agent John Dodson.

But what could be the reasons for Washington initiating such a program in the first place? Why would the Obama administration actively send 30,000 sniper rifles, assault weapons and firearms into Mexico even while claiming to follow an anti-gun stance back in the USA?

To answer that question, you need to understand P.R.S -- Problem, Reaction, Solution. It is the "playbook" that governments use to get what they want, which usually involves: 1) Disarming their populations, 2) Taking away all their rights and freedoms, and then 3) Ruling over their people as tyrants with complete power.

Precisely such an effort is now underway in the United States, led by the Obama administration which has repeatedly demonstrated itself to be an enemy of the U.S. Constitution and its Bill of Rights.

How Problem, Reaction, Solution really works

If you're the U.S. government, you can't just announce a new program to disarm the country, end the Bill of Rights and install yourself as the King. People won't go for it if you try to sell it that way. Instead, you need to find a way to get people to BEG you to do all that.

So you need a way to put people in a state of mind where they are terrified of drugs, terrified of guns and terrified of the border violence -- to the point where they insist that somebody in Washington do something about it.

Therefore, you first need a way to cause the problem that results in all the violence that people react to. You effectively need to create violence and then wait for people to beg you to stop it.

This is where the Obama administration's program to send 30,000 firearms into Mexico comes into play. If you want to cause gun violence and drug war violence, what better way to accomplish it than to just arm all the bad guys?

Think about it: 30,000 weapons in the hands of drug criminals! Then all you have to do is sit back and wait for all the violence to kick in. And it has kicked in -- in huge numbers. Shootings on the border, kidnappings, armed conflict across the border with U.S. border agents, and so on. Violent crimes in Arizona are now being committed with these very same weapons the ATF trafficked into the hands of Mexican drug gangs.

As Judicial Watch president Tim Fitton explains, his belief is that Operation Fast and Furious was purely an anti-gun political ploy from the Obama administration, designed to put more guns into the hands of criminals as a justification for confiscating guns from all citizens. He adds, "I think another major part of this story is that the narrative of the Obama administration and the ATF is that, 'wouldn't it be great if we could tie guns, as part of our anti-gun agenda, to the Mexican civil war, as opposed to, you know, our lack of enforcement of the drug laws or failure to protect the borders.'"

And here's the real kicker: Of all the weapons now being confiscated by police in Mexico, an astonishing 70 percent came from the United States. So now you have a situation where the USA is actually arming the criminals in Mexico and destabilizing that country's entire system of law and order. The drug gangs are at war with the police there, and thanks to thinks like U.S.-supplies AK-47s and .50-caliber sniper rifles, the drug gangs are winning!

ATF can now demand more power and bigger budgets

Getting back to the U.S. issue, if you're the DEA or the ATF, you now have 30,000 more reasons to have your own budgets increased. There's a wave of violence coming across the border! The drug gangs are out of control! They're shooting back!

Well gee, I wonder why? It's because the ATF actually sold them these 30,000 rifles under orders from Washington.

And now the Obama administration is, predictably, saying there's so much "gun violence" in the Southern USA that new laws are needed to curb gun sales there.

Seriously? New laws? What about the 30,000 guns the ATF openly and admittedly sold to the Mexican drug gangs? Wasn't that already a violation of law?

It all comes back to Problem, Reaction, Solution, you see. Want to keep the useless War on Drugs going a little longer? Just dump a few thousand pounds of drugs into the hands of criminals and let 'em run loose with it. Want to beef up the budgets of the ATF? Just distribute 30,000 illegal weapons into the hands of drug gangs and then sit back and wait for people to beg for your help. Want to justify a war on "terror" in the Middle East? Dream up some stupid story about Weapons of Mass Destruction and then launch a war.

For every power-hungry tyrannical agenda in Washington, there's a false flag operation that will make it come true.

And the rest of the article is an excellent eye opener as well to other happenings in the government...


Full Source With References: US government openly admits arming Mexican drug gangs with 30,000 firearms - but why?
 
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WillyBudz

New Member
Was not 30,000 guns, was over 30,000 deaths related to drug cartels. Actual guns was about 1800.

Natural News is famous for being just slightly biased (read full of shit) and has been proven to "spice" up real news stories. Similar to Fox News.

Still fucked up but not quite the same story when written by somebody other than a conspiracy theory nutcase. (Mike Adams is full of soot and poo.)

This is the real story from the BBC.
BBC News - US-Mexico ATF firearms smuggling sting 'mistakes'
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US officials' 'gun-running plot'

WillyB

Tho "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky is in fact followed by many world leaders, you need to read "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein to see how much of this is used now.
 

KOcacolakills

New Member
Thanks for the perspective, it read like a fairly exaggerated piece. Then it went completely off the rails with the three steps to tyranny and the false flag statements.

Very easy to forget to track news to its source in the information age.

From Reuters: "Of the nearly 30,000 firearms recovered in 2009 and 2010 in Mexico, where gun possession is illegal, some 70 percent were determined to have come from the United States, ATF officials told lawmakers last week." And that is 21,000 guns from all sources of firearms in the US, not just the sting operation.
 
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WillyBudz

New Member
I like how Natural News added the "guns from the US" to the guns in the sting, blaming ATF for all of them... lol
 

smithsuuport

New Member
1972. Published in 1971, it was Alinsky's attempt to impart his theory and methods of organizing to the current generation of young activists, largely drawing upon his own experiences.
 

WillyBudz

New Member
Thank you for keeping watch. Although the ATF cannot be blamed for them all they still suck doing what they did, some things our government does makes me wonder wtf they are thinking.

WillyB
 

JJ Bones

Nug of the Month: Feb 2013
I highly recommend everybody, subscribe to RussiaToday on Youtube. They're a legit news media outlet, that actually will provide true stories, not biased ones.
 

420 Warrior

Well-Known Member
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I did some homework Capt'n, didn't read the book but googled it and found that this type of strategy, 'Pick the Target, Freeze It, Personalize It and Polarize It'...'The ends justifies the means', is indeed well embedded in their political practice. :30: I'm not too up on politics and honestly was never really interested, but that was a good starting point. I won't make any judgements because I tend to like to see a everything before passing my opinions along. But I will say that I don't care for the tactic of scapegoating one bit! Thanks for the recommended reading my friend. :peace:

P.s...I would rather refer to them as a 'Challenge' instead of an 'enemy', but that's just me :)

May be just a challenge out in CA, but here in GA they are no doubt the "enemy" sitting on every corner just waiting to pounce on the innocent...it's crazy, I swear!

Just saying :peace:
 

chancedebris

New Member
The police/justice/prison/legal/religious industry is too big to change with accepted methods, such as voting for the two main parties. Remember, nothing much changes without crises, and crisis does not exist until it hurts the elite.
 

adobeboxer

New Member
If you think for a second that RT is on the side of the citizen, then think again! RT is state owned, and would not dare to be so critical of its own govt. You do know what happens to many a Russian journalist who exposes corruption, right?
 
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