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Sativa OG Kush aka Skywalker OG

James123

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Hi James,

When you posted this, first thing that ran through my mind was, "I wonder if he's talking about Luke aka Ron." After speaking with Luke/Ron last night, we decided to out his real name, to help shed some light on the reality of who is saying what and claiming to be who, regarding this strain. Luke Skywalker's real name is Ron Cabrera and this is what he had to say about your post.

Yes we are referring to the same person Luke Skywalker...

In reality there is no concrete fact on the true origins of OG Kush and which one is the original cut etc. But the facts that I have collected are as follows. I've had the cut since 2006 which is when I started growing. The person that gave it to me has had it since the early 90's 91-92. And the story that he told me was as follows. The original OG Kush came from Florida. It was brought here and given to a select few which he was one of them and B-Real from Cypress Hill was another among this small circle. It looks sativa-ish and usually starts off producing 3 leaf blades. Very similar to the Skywalker. It was later named Herojuana referring to it's combination of Euphoric-energetic buzz with it's narcotic body effects synonymous to an opiate. That's as far as I can track the lineage from the people I got the strain from. In fact B-real claims in this video that it did come from Florida in fact.

While we can't use claims on bulletin boards to back up the origins of the true OG Kush. We can use logic and also study the history on how marijuana got started in California. While there are 2 types of marijuana (Indica & Sativa) you got to wonder where did they originate? You never hear old hippies from the 60's and 70's talk about an actual native California strain. The origins of Sativa strains come from tropical, hotter more humid types of environments like Thailand. And the origins of Indica's come from dryer climates like Pakistan and Afghanistan.

I have a friends who has been growing bud here in our local Cali mountains since the early 70's and when I first showed him my Herojuana OG Kush his eyes lit up… and he knew right away the true origins of the OG strain. The obvious its a saliva-Indica Hybrid with slightly tilted on the Sativa side. The first thing he said to me was that it reminded him of the thai-sticks…he smelled it and tasted it in the bud. It's obviously has to be a sativa/indica hybrid to survive in the climate that we live in here in So. Cali. Below is some research by an accredited source.

By Rick Pfrommer, Director of Education, Harborside Health Center

Original landrace and other heirloom strains are often lost in today’s hyperkinetic world of breeding. ‘Landrace’ refers to strains that are indigenous to an area, such as Red Congolese. ‘Heirlooms’ are strains that were collected worldwide during the 1970s and propagated in Hawaii and Northern California. Our constant desire for new strains leads breeders to continually cross and re-cross existing strains looking for the next big thing. There is, however, a small but growing contingent of cultivators who’re returning to our cannabis roots and propagating old landrace and heirloom strains. Varieties range from pure African sativas to Afghani indicas, collected by world travelers on the infamous Hippie Trail (also referred to as the “Hashish Trail”).

All during the 1970s and early 1980s, cannabis aficionados of all stripes traveled the world smoking the finest cannabis and hashish available. From Nepalese temple balls to the famed Mazar-i-Sharif Afghani Black, the Hashish Trail was filled with exotic delights. The trail rolls on through Lebanese Red to Moroccan Kif, with stops in Bangkok for Chocolate Thai, and Columbia and Mexico for their infamous golden strains. Many of these intrepid souls also collected seeds during their travels. It was these landrace strains that became the basis for the nascent cultivation culture that eventually sprang forth in both Hawaii and Northern California.

Talk with any cannabis connoisseur old enough to remember these legendary strains and you’ll come away with tales of their epic strength. Equatorial sativas from Africa to Vietnam flourished in Hawaii’s tropical dreamscape of cannabis cultivation. Indicas from Afghanistan were more at home in Northern California’s cooler climate. I was fortunate enough to live on the Big Island of Hawaii from 1993 to 1997, and I can attest that the best cannabis I have EVER smoked was grown in volcanic soil on the slopes of the largest active volcano in the world, Mauna Loa. By the time I got there almost everything grown in Hawaii was some combination of genetics, no longer a landrace. Yet a few of the old-timers still had access to the classic ’70s strains, making for a wonderfully unique and diverse smoking experience.

From Nepalese temple balls to the famed Mazar-i-Sharif Afghani Black, the Hashish Trail was filled with exotic delights.

The scene in California at this time was slightly different. Northern California, as beautiful as it is, ain’t Hawaii. The Emerald Triangle rests approximately on the same parallel as Afghanistan and the Hindu Kush mountains. While Southern Californians could grow Columbian and Mexican sativas, their northern counterparts found the stocky indica plants much better adapted for their climate. Shorter flowering time allowed harvest to occur before the fall rains came with their mold-inducing downpours. These short and chunky plants produced the infamous skunkweed that became Northern California’s calling card. Again, anyone old enough to remember this cannabis will never forget the pungent, almost rancid, skunk-like aroma. I remember going to parties in the early ’80s with this herb double-bagged-and still being outed minutes after walking in. “Yo man, I know you’re holding, share the love!” Our own Steve DeAngelo also has memories of this era, saying that to this day he’s not seen cannabis like what he saw from Northen California in the late ’70s and early ’80s.


As you can see… all these names chemdawg, OG, Sour Diesel blah, blah blah…. had to have come from the tropics or the deserts and they are all hybrids of these 2 types. In the 70's and 80's people were growing outdoors and a sole indica or sole saliva will not do well in our So cal environment. It was in the mid to late eighties when cannabis connoisseurs across the US where coming up with these sativa-indica crosses where OG Kush came from. He used to have this strain that he called convalescent and it he says it was very similar to OG Kush. And he had crossed an original purple afghani seed with an original lemon thai. I've showed him both the Skywalker and the Herojuana. While I can't really tell the difference by looking at them with the naked eye he was able to point to me certain things where I can now tell the difference between them 2. He give both of them an A+ grade but puts a slight edge on the Herojuana for being a bit more aromizing and a bit more rich in flavor. I also feel the same way having smoked both. Regardless, they are both original OG kush strains. Not sure if Skywalker is in seed form, I don't think so recalling what Ron Cabrera told me but my Herojuana strain only exists in clone form.

This whole story of the chemdawg bag seed junk sounds promising at first but it does not reference the true origins. Not to say that the story may not be true but it does go back to the same time when my friend who gave it to me first acquired his original cut. Maybe they did find a stress seed from a bag to acquire it and went on to create all those other OG strains that we hear of…But it makes sense for it to come from Florida as it is amore tropical environment there and more suitable for sativa dominant strands. I have both the Skywalker and the Hero. They are practically identical in look but as I mentioned before the test Ron did showed that my Hero strain showed a slight different nutrient uptake requirement during week 3. Ron's Skywalker goes back to 1998, while my Hero cut goes back to 1990 coming from Florida.

Nowadays you can really only find 2 OG's in the market. The commercial OG like Larry and all the other Og's that come in seed form and the true OG Kush that is more flimsy and delicate and more sativa looking. Which would be like the Skywalker or Herojuana strain. These days I wouldn't give out these strain to anybody but the friends within my circle. It's really the only ace in the bag we have left as true OG kush growers who hold the original strains. The collective that picks up my Hero calls it the Private Reserve. They've had to put a 1 1/8th per week cap on patients because it's sold before it's grown. Luckily anybody who came across a true OG clone probably lost it to spider mites or some disease. And also not being able to clone the plant correctly. They've all moved to growing the easier commercial OG that you see all over the place these days because they probably fucked up the plant. It's a super tricky, sensitive and finicky plant that requires expert knowledge and experience to grow it right. If you don't know how to Grow it then you will get super low yields and sub-par product. But if you figure out her secrete then she can perform like a winner. My best pull so far has been, 9 lbs on 4000 watts.
 

James123

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Skywalker OG is dead. I have been a medicinal marijuana patient in Cali since prop 215 was passed, and I have been searching for the best marijuana ever since. I've been smoking Skywalker for over 7 years, and I can't be alone when I say that this plant has been slowly dying over the years. There was actually a price drop from 85/eighth to 75/eighth and I think that's because it has lost potency. Zen hasn't had a solid batch of Skywalker in months, and now they're trying to pass off some other strain as Skywalker OG. Any real connoisseur can immediately tell the differences. The smell is different, seems like it is still an OG, but definitely doesn't have that distinct Skywalker smell to it. The appearance is completely different. The taste is pretty clean, but definitely not Skywalker. Lastly is the potency, it's just not there and it hasn't been there for months. With that being said, where does everybody go for some real top shelf medicine? I feel as if I have explored every option, but I can't help but believe that there is more potent medicine than what most dispensaries consider "top shelf". Skywalker OG has always been my "go to" but it seems like that mother plant is probably dying after so many years of cloning. Any help would be appreciated, thanks guys! :Namaste:

You obviously have been misinformed. The Skywalker has not lost any taste or potency over the years. It's a real finicky plant and requires expert knowledge to grow it right. Nowadays everyone is calling their Og's what they want to call them. You probably came across a fake.
 

James123

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Last thing I want to mention here is that all these new commercial OG Kush stains that we are starting to see all over dispensaries have the look, a resemblance but not the true smell, taste and high. It's unfortunate that most people in the game are in it for the easy results and big weight gains which you can much easily achieve with these new commercial OG Kush strains. They all have the Dutch mentality. Weight and look first over true taste, smell and high quality. But the average joe out there does not know what true OG Kush high is. It's the best of both Sativa and Indica worlds. The true more Sativa dominant OG Kush will bring you an energetic, euphoric brain high that opens your mind and creative senses. While also adding the warmth and feeling of relaxation to your body synonymous to a narcotic opiate.

The only way to tell if you have the real deal really is to have smoked the true OG Kush before. The ones that know, know because once you've had it you can't forget how that true OG Kush high is. I've smoked all the top rated shit from the best Dutch companies and all those up North indica strains from gurus that think their cannabis cup winner bud is the best. Yes they got me really high but none gave me that Energetic/Euphoric Buzzing head high that I only get from the Skywalker and what my click circle calls Herojuana OG Kush.
 

gardengrover

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Last year, I drove to Hollywood a second time and got a whole tray of Skywalker Sativa from a guy off craigslist. Turned out to be legit, best OG I've ever grown or smoked hands down. It likes a low ph and lots of Cal Mag. The smell the flavor the high - superb. As a sativa lover this hits the spot.
 

ORGNKID

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Ladys and gentleman the real Sativa OG Kush aka Skywalker OG ? Maybe ?

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Hi i have a good story to tell about this skywalker og sativa dominant strain that got in my hands from a friend on 2008 , and been keeping since then... I got a clone here in chile , south america on 2008 , according to my friend years later he told me that he got a cut from a chilean friend that went to california on earlys 2007 and eventually brought some femenized or regular skywalker og seeds...( i dont have more info of were he got them ) Years passed and always kept one mother to not loose this amazing medicine, as you can read all over the internet nobody really describes the strain, you can only find references about taste as limony , earthy and pine , color , as kind of light green leaves , with skinny five finger leaves that tends sometimes to trow 3 finger and even 1 finger leaves when is on light hours stress , now the structural growth of stems is particular it grows like in zig-zag internodal stages , the stems tends to put in purple color, and one particular characteristic is that this strain has very little odor or smell , on veg stage has none smell .. Great for indoors .. And on flower stage has almost no smell if you are not moving to much the plant, The high is absolutly energycing , with mental clarity , euphoric calmness and really creative idea flow, has been 7 years been the guardian of this strain , one way or another ive been always worried about her, leaving sometimes on friends closet, sometimes with very poor conditions of light and care, somehow the plant has make it until the present , now im considering making some femenized seeds and capsule for the future on seed form this amazing strain , the question is should i keep FOREVER a cut?
 

conradino23

Grow Journal of the Year: 2017 - Grow Journal of the Month: Sept 2017
Interesting how much hype there is in Cali about OG/Chemdawg strains. I'm growing myself SoCal OG Kush which came from original clone that hermied, well it's the only way to get the seeds without BX to whatever. This plant gives indeed strong musky piney/lemoney smell when entering middle flowering and produces trichomes like crazy. It also doesn't branch out so the best way to grow it is to LST it I figured and you get much better results that way. Highwise it is indeed 50/50 strain just slightly leaning on the sativa side. I really didn't like it that much, but yes I believe it really might have been just a pure cross of Highland Thai and some landrace indica from Hindu Kush. Structure of bud is indica but cause it stretches a lot sativa influence is apparent. I think a way to go is to recreate it from a scratch if someone wants a healthy hybrid cause this one has some nice traits but also a lot of unwanted ones.

My plant:

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TorturedSoul

Member of the Month: May 2009, Oct 2010, Sept 2017
Luckily anybody who came across a true OG clone probably lost it to spider mites or some disease.

And that attitude is why I quit hanging with commercial growers, lol. (Although they're not ALL greedy SOBs like the above comment would lead one to believe.)

Hey, 420, what's up? Did your buddy ever start producing seeds and selling them to seedbanks, by chance?
 

420

Founder
420 Staff
And that attitude is why I quit hanging with commercial growers, lol. (Although they're not ALL greedy SOBs like the above comment would lead one to believe.)

Hey, 420, what's up? Did your buddy ever start producing seeds and selling them to seedbanks, by chance?

Luke has not gotten his seed bank together, however the show's not over yet. ;)

We're actually in the middle of investigating its origin for a feature article we've been working on for years.
 

sithlrd31

Well-Known Member
This is a very interesting thread...interesting indeed. Medicate on this I will.
 

TorturedSoul

Member of the Month: May 2009, Oct 2010, Sept 2017
Luke has not gotten his seed bank together, however the show's not over yet. ;)

I would like to see that happen. When I read that this was your daily-use strain, I knew it had to be something special.
 

TorturedSoul

Member of the Month: May 2009, Oct 2010, Sept 2017
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I'd like to share ours.

I wish that SOMEBODY would share it with one of the better cannabis breeders, so that everyone can have a chance to grow it (assuming it's the real strain, of course, and not that indica cr@p that someone decided to call by the same name).
 

conradino23

Grow Journal of the Year: 2017 - Grow Journal of the Month: Sept 2017
Does someone know if this strain Flo-Rida still exists in California in seed or clone form? I assume that would be original OG mother.

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