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Southern Hemisphere - Sativa & Sativa X Indica Grow

ItsTimmyMan

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Hello everyone! And here I am (AGAIN) trying my luck with some seeds I've collected over the past year or so. There are 2 strains in this grow, A sativa dominant plant and a sativa/indica hybrid (which in my opinion is a lot better). They've all been potted and left in the box for a couple of days and here's where they are right now-

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And one I'd put in a few days earlier:

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I never have a plan, so I can't tell you whats going to happen, I just take it as it comes:)
So far, it's just budget potting mix with slow release qualities and only water. I hope I get to get these little ones to their full potential and I hope you guys will help me along the way :)


Any suggestions, feedback or even questions are encouraged! :Namaste:
 

ItsTimmyMan

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re: Southern Hemisphere - Sativa & Sativa X Indica Grow

This lot are still plodding along!
I haven't updated this in case they didn't make it through, although they are all still kicking and I thought I might as well show you where they're all at. My journals are more for personal reference anyway, hence why I'm after constructive criticism! There's always somewhere to improve :1:

Here's a quick timeline style update of how they've been doing :)

25/8/2014 Just before transplant
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16/9/2014 Shaded
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16/9/2014 Removed coverage for more sun exposure
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4/10/2014 Before watering. I do believe allowing them to dry to the extent of drooping isn't a bad thing.
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14/10/2014 Ripped out a male
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18/10/2014 Separate plant, pistil formations
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18/10/2014 Deformed leaf, female plant
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18/10/2014 Main spot, perfectly healthy (as far as I can tell)
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I'll try and keep this more updated, but I'm worried about revealing locations through pictures...
And as always, let me know how I'm doing, what I'm doing wrong, and where I could improve :)

Criticism appreciated!

Cheers,
Timmy:)
 

Pentachronic

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re: Southern Hemisphere - Sativa & Sativa X Indica Grow

Can anyone comment on the pot size in relation to the size of the plant? I'm starting to worry that the pots are too small.

Simple rule of thumb is, "As above so below". That means the plant above is a rough representation of the amount of roots below. Cannabis roots tend to stay more shallow than the plant is tall yet wander horizontally more than say a poplar tree.

There's a good graphic of a mature plant's root formation on wikipedia.

:peace:
 

ItsTimmyMan

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re: Southern Hemisphere - Sativa & Sativa X Indica Grow

Now for an update! With special thanks to Colorado High for his never-ending patience and specific answers whilst putting up with my persistent, annoying questions! <<Give that guy a promotion or something.

I've had a chance to get out for a wander through the bush to my little hideaway for a couple of snap shots of the crew!
They've just received some much needed water, as the days are long and blistering at the moment, which is all the better in my opinion:)

The difference in the two strains are becoming really pronounced now and I'm really looking forward to trying the two separately to see the difference in medicinal qualities. All photos taken 4/11/2014.

Here's a photo to show the difference in strains side by side:
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The Sativa dominants:
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I'm not sure if you can see, but there's some plants pushed through the chicken wire to make a bit more space:
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A little Indica tucked in there as well :)
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And some of the Indicas:
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It's strange how some are flowering later than others:
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And some miscellaneous shots:
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And the other crew:
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Can anyone tell me if they think this is ready?
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As always, any suggestions, questions or constructive criticism would be very handy:)
 

ItsTimmyMan

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So 2 days ago, I went out to a plant that i originally planned on leaving until the end of the season and literally not looking at it, but me being me, I couldn't help myself. After taking it some nutrients and getting a quick snapshot, I realized there was a deformity I'd never seen before. I like growing the plants with something different about them, anyone seen this before?

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GrizzWald

Plant of the Month: June 2016 - Nug of the Month: Aug 2017
The best way to check if they are ready is look at the trics under a loupe, 30x or greater. They cost around $10 off of fleabay. Looking for cloudy to amber. I wouldn't think that plant is ready going by the photo. Looks like it's got a fair while to go.
 

ItsTimmyMan

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The best way to check if they are ready is look at the trics under a loupe, 30x or greater. They cost around $10 off of fleabay. Looking for cloudy to amber. I wouldn't think that plant is ready going by the photo. Looks like it's got a fair while to go.

I genuinely hope you're right. But the reason you may think that is the leaf to bud ratio, which is because I haven't (until yesterday) had any high phosphorus/potassium fertilizer apart from molasses which is high in potassium. So hopefully things will be better with the new fertilizer, which I'm hesitant to use as I was aiming for a completely organic crop but I can't seem to find bone meal (for phosphorus and calcium) in any of the local home depots, so I'm forced to use synthetic fertilizers in order to get the P/K
 

AscendedMasterKief

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I've never seen a cannabis leaf like that before. Very neat. Bone meal in my local HD is located near the rooting hormone, superthrive, and Dinamite (tomato fert), along with grass fertilizer and grass seed. Not sure if it would be the same there, but I hope that helps. The bone meal at my local HD is made by none other than Miracle Grow, so I won't get it there. I've got a thing or three against MG. Anywho. Your gals are looking great, and even that male looked good. Are you planning to do any breeding, or seed production? I wish I had flowering space for males, where it would not pollinate the whole county, lol. Glad to see you are trying to stay organic.

A jeweller's loupe of 30-60x is very useful, and pretty much the best tool a little money can buy.
 

ItsTimmyMan

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I've never seen a cannabis leaf like that before. Very neat. Bone meal in my local HD is located near the rooting hormone, superthrive, and Dinamite (tomato fert), along with grass fertilizer and grass seed. Not sure if it would be the same there, but I hope that helps. The bone meal at my local HD is made by none other than Miracle Grow, so I won't get it there. I've got a thing or three against MG. Anywho. Your gals are looking great, and even that male looked good. Are you planning to do any breeding, or seed production? I wish I had flowering space for males, where it would not pollinate the whole county, lol. Glad to see you are trying to stay organic.

A jeweller's loupe of 30-60x is very useful, and pretty much the best tool a little money can buy.

I have looked all over the place for bone meal, or any organic high phosphorus supplement with no luck! I'll have another look around the grass fertilizer section, but they do regulate against high phosphorus fertilizers. I haven't got anything like the readings in the US as far as NPK ratios are concerned. I've read of people using 1-30-20! Which is unheard of here!

As it sounds, I'll definitely have to get a jewelers magnifier! I was hoping to judge off of the pistils, but I've been heavily directed to get a magnifying glass! haha

Anyway, cheers for stopping by! :Namaste:
 

AscendedMasterKief

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Sorry to hear about restrictions on sales of particular fertilizers. Are you able to order online, and pick the nutrients you want, have them shipped to you? May be a way around peculiar regulations. Also, nurseries may be able to provide.
 

ItsTimmyMan

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Sorry to hear about restrictions on sales of particular fertilizers. Are you able to order online, and pick the nutrients you want, have them shipped to you? May be a way around peculiar regulations. Also, nurseries may be able to provide.

I've had a look, but the shipping costs are through the roof, and I really can't see me shipping nutrients over all the time. Not to mention I'm not even sure they'd get through customs. I looked at the local hydroponic shops, which is where I found the Maxibloom, but that was the highest Phosphorus rating I could find anywhere! Any nutrients you can suggest would be much appreciated :)
 

AscendedMasterKief

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I'd have a look through here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertilizer, and then have a looksee at what natural resources you have available locally. By me, for example, I've got 3 cow pastures nearby, and while I don't go in them without permission, I walk the fencelines and pick up poop near the fence, easily filling 5-6 5-gallon buckets with cowpies. These, I bust up and through into my composter. The supply replenishes itself. :) I'm not sure exactly what yield phosphates, besides bones, in the form of calcium phosphate, I think? When you do go to your garden store, check out the NPK ratings on the nutrients there. I'm not sure that super-high numbers are as important as proper ratios between them, though I am not entirely sure what's appropriate, either. No one's cussed me out over what I use yet. But my yields haven't been super good, either. I'm not saying this as an endorsement or anything, just stating what I use, that's "Orchid Better-Bloom, 11-35-15." I make sure not to use fertilizers with urea in them. Just one of those things I heard was bad. Urea is for N, though, of course. Personally, I look at plants' nutrients sort of like our own. We need a balanced diet, and certain things during certain stages of life. For instance, we need milk in our earliest years, but as we age, it becomes a little less important. Kinda like Nitrogen for plants. Phosphorus may be for mature plants like Viagra is for mature humans. And so forth. Look at me, I'm rambling on and on. Smoked a bowl too many, I did. ;) I hope I was helpful. :Namaste:
 

ItsTimmyMan

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Cow manure has worked wonders for me in the past! And thanks for the link, I can't believe I hadn't read it earlier! As for the ratios in fertilizers, I can't find any high P rating fertilizer in my parts. Even 1-4-2 would be good to try, but there's nothing around like that. Not even a straight Phosphorus fertilizer that I could use. You're absolutely right about plants needing a balanced diet, but it's knowing the diet that's the tricky part!

There's never a bowl too many :p
 

ItsTimmyMan

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So I've attempted a pollination of a dwarf indica and a tall sativa to see how it turns out, and I've just discovered my first ever seed!
I know people usually aim for no seeds, but I'd never done it and wanted to see how it went. So I've just popped it in soil and can't wait to see what characteristics of each strain this particular seed has! I only found one seed, but it looks viable! I'm not going to germinate it first because I don't want any chance of it dying before its time :)

Anyway, here it is:
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Padox

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Hey there Timmyman! enjoying reading your journal! I feel your pain, im also in the southern hemisphere and your right as far as the restriction of fertilisers containing high levels of phosphorous! im currently in early days of veg with my big bud x white widow but have an ak47 automatic that is at that stage where a boost of P would be beneficial. If I manage to find anything in my search ill be sure to let you know... I know its not exactly what were looking for but this seaweed solution claims to boost flowering and fruiting but doesn't contain much phosphorous or nitrogen at all.
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ItsTimmyMan

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Hey there Timmyman! enjoying reading your journal! I feel your pain, im also in the southern hemisphere and your right as far as the restriction of fertilisers containing high levels of phosphorous! im currently in early days of veg with my big bud x white widow but have an ak47 automatic that is at that stage where a boost of P would be beneficial. If I manage to find anything in my search ill be sure to let you know... I know its not exactly what were looking for but this seaweed solution claims to boost flowering and fruiting but doesn't contain much phosphorous or nitrogen at all.
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I've actually got some of that laying around somewhere! But I think it's called "powerfeed". I've looked all through the nurseries to no avail, Maybe our only option is online. Yea definitely let me know! :1:

Where are you getting your seeds from by the way? worldofseeds has had good success with everyone in my area as far as I've heard.
 
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