History of how I came to even get to this topic (not the focus of the thread, just the background - no debates needed on proper pH for DWC): Went to a local hydro shop and had a conversation with one of the growers who recommended running DWC systems at 5-5.5pH instead of traditional 5.5-5.8. When I asked the person how they came to the conclusion about a lower pH, the story was a water scientist (maybe watershed science idk) stated it had to do with structuring/ restructuring water. I had no idea what that meant, and neither did he, but said after he tried reducing pH plants really took off. He was honest and made it clear he couldn’t articulate the science, and everything is anecdotal. TBH I just like the guy and we had a good conversation, so that explanation was good enough.
But my follow up was to look up “structured water” which took me to a place I generally only visit under full moonlight - the world of energy crystals...
Let’s stop here for a public service announcement - this thread is probably more for the curious, not for the winners of arguments - so think through if this is the post/ thread for you.
I hope you’re all still with me because now we get to the interesting stuff.
After hours of going down a web search rabbit hole, here’s where I’m at... and oh btw neither one lend any help or relevance to the 5.0 pH portion that I started the thread with.
1. Structured water - let’s understand a non-technical baseline: 6 Things to Know About Structured Water - Aquaponics Design Company
What’s interesting to me is there seems to be evidence (from limited studies) in enhanced growth, crop size, and yield with structured water. Also, if we look at the human drinking water trends that have exploded in the US, this definitely has become a thing in health food stores/ active lifestyle types. Yet in gardening, still early. I bring that up because it demonstrates there’s a market for it in some capacities, and maybe just maybe the claims have some credibility.
2. Shungite (specifically Elite Shungite with higher concentrations of fullerenes). At the basic level it’s a mineral and widely accepted as having healing properties across the more holistic/ hippie/ natural healers/ spiritual communities worldwide. At a deeper level, it contains fullerenes - their discovery led to a Nobel prize, and when they interact with water they have been shown to neutralize waterborn contaminates/ enhance beneficial effects and in general have scientific studies that are a little too in-depth for my knowledge/ attention span. This is where I hope some of the more advanced chemistry/ biology folks here can dumb it down for me. Also, in searching shungite on 420 mag there are posts from 2016 about people using these stones to block radio frequencies emitted from 600/1000w HID lights. Then nothing. I think there’s something here, I really do.
For those still with me and interested, I’d love if you read up on shungite and structured water and then let’s talk about if we think this has a potential place in our gardens or if this is too wacky.
Ultimately I want to know what I can /any info all of you know about shungite and fullerenes and structuring water for growing - the interaction with water, macronutrients, micronutrients, pH, and how that benefits or works against cannabis growth stages/ nutrients. I can’t help but feel like “structured water” and elite shungite could play an interesting role in cannabis growth that is potentially somewhat unexplored.
Now, I’m making no claims about anything, I just find it interesting and I’m curious. I don’t want this to become some bickering thread that gets off topic. There’s a lot of smart ppl on 420 and I want this to be like a group project (if anyone’s even interested). I personally think this is a somewhat fascinating topic and I’m a bit surprised I’m not finding more information out there. Perhaps that’s because there’s nothing here, or maybe it’s just early - either way my hope is it generates healthy and knowledgeable discourse.
But my follow up was to look up “structured water” which took me to a place I generally only visit under full moonlight - the world of energy crystals...
Let’s stop here for a public service announcement - this thread is probably more for the curious, not for the winners of arguments - so think through if this is the post/ thread for you.
I hope you’re all still with me because now we get to the interesting stuff.
After hours of going down a web search rabbit hole, here’s where I’m at... and oh btw neither one lend any help or relevance to the 5.0 pH portion that I started the thread with.
1. Structured water - let’s understand a non-technical baseline: 6 Things to Know About Structured Water - Aquaponics Design Company
What’s interesting to me is there seems to be evidence (from limited studies) in enhanced growth, crop size, and yield with structured water. Also, if we look at the human drinking water trends that have exploded in the US, this definitely has become a thing in health food stores/ active lifestyle types. Yet in gardening, still early. I bring that up because it demonstrates there’s a market for it in some capacities, and maybe just maybe the claims have some credibility.
2. Shungite (specifically Elite Shungite with higher concentrations of fullerenes). At the basic level it’s a mineral and widely accepted as having healing properties across the more holistic/ hippie/ natural healers/ spiritual communities worldwide. At a deeper level, it contains fullerenes - their discovery led to a Nobel prize, and when they interact with water they have been shown to neutralize waterborn contaminates/ enhance beneficial effects and in general have scientific studies that are a little too in-depth for my knowledge/ attention span. This is where I hope some of the more advanced chemistry/ biology folks here can dumb it down for me. Also, in searching shungite on 420 mag there are posts from 2016 about people using these stones to block radio frequencies emitted from 600/1000w HID lights. Then nothing. I think there’s something here, I really do.
For those still with me and interested, I’d love if you read up on shungite and structured water and then let’s talk about if we think this has a potential place in our gardens or if this is too wacky.
Ultimately I want to know what I can /any info all of you know about shungite and fullerenes and structuring water for growing - the interaction with water, macronutrients, micronutrients, pH, and how that benefits or works against cannabis growth stages/ nutrients. I can’t help but feel like “structured water” and elite shungite could play an interesting role in cannabis growth that is potentially somewhat unexplored.
Now, I’m making no claims about anything, I just find it interesting and I’m curious. I don’t want this to become some bickering thread that gets off topic. There’s a lot of smart ppl on 420 and I want this to be like a group project (if anyone’s even interested). I personally think this is a somewhat fascinating topic and I’m a bit surprised I’m not finding more information out there. Perhaps that’s because there’s nothing here, or maybe it’s just early - either way my hope is it generates healthy and knowledgeable discourse.
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