The Mountain: Grow Support From The Over 50 Club

[Krissi Carbone]

A $2,500 spanking - extreme even in that time.

Reminds me of when I was in my first year of college, 1974. The cops raided my apt because I had a full-sized 4-foot tall plastic 420 plant planted in a metal garbage can on the balcony deck facing the parking lot. They confiscated it - can you believe that - confiscated a plastic cannabis plant. Their "exigent" and potentially illegal search turned up no other elicit "goods" (besides a framed hand-sized actual 420 leaf under glass). I was neither cited nor arrested. The cops would not give me a receipt for the property taken, even though I asked.

I journal-ed the entire "Barney Fife" episode and got an "A" in Speech class for the work. Dang though...that plastic plant looked absolutely REAL. Friends used to come to the apt and have to touch it before they would believe it was only made of plastic. I was the "talk" of the apt complex - in a good way.

I later went down to the local magistrate and asked him if I could have my plastic plant back. He said "yeah, but you would have to sue the cops and the city". He said he was the only city judge in that small town and I had a right to get my plastic plant personal property back. He encouraged me to do it. I later decided not to sue because I was a big 420 user in those days and I did not want to make an enemy of the local cops by embarrassing them in court by publicizing the fact that in their jurisdiction the police could not discern the difference between plastic and real 420.

Sometimes it is best to shut-up and keep your head down rather than have your head lowered for you by the local "nightstick justice".

Ohhh...what a misspent youth! LMAO!!!

This is a fabulous story!!!! The magistrate!!! I got pulled over in N Carolina mountains one time heading to the casino...we were smoking a joint had a Henry left, maybe. It was the most bizarre "arrest" ever. First off, no handcuffs, second off, we sat in the front seats of both cop cars. Thirdly, they intercommed each other and said to pull over and give me the "stuff". My friend got in the back seat of the one car I was in the front of already and the other cop gave the other one, our weed. We went to the precinct where we awaited the magistrate. We sat on top of tables in a conference room. Bullshitted with the cops. One was clearly a past football player who didn't get to the big leagues.. I called him a redneck.. we laughed...Then, in walked what seemed to be the spawn of two fathers, Willie Nelson and Kris Kringle. He said why didn't you just throw it out the window, that's what I do...I said uh I guess I just didn't think of it. He said to come back to court in 2 weeks. We had no way back to our car.. no taxis in the mountains.. I asked the football cop how we get back to our car...he said walk...I rolled my eyes, asked if he was serious, and we started walking. About an 1/8th of a mile down the road we saw lights behind us. The cop picked us up and drove us back to the car. We went to the casino out of pot, and walked by the tables looking for someone that looked liked they smoked to get more weed...we found a joint worth...2 weeks later, we walked in the court room and the officers we had screamed out and waved, hey-its Cheech and Chong!!! When they called us up, one cop wrote on a piece of paper "who's the redneck now!". We paid a 200 buck ticket and left.

 

[Old Guy Teaches]

GREAT!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Krissi Carbone]

GREAT!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry I just jumped in this thread here OGT!!! My friend Charlie posted his story here and wanted me to see!! Hope you don't mind me coming by...you have grows currently I could follow along with???

 

[MAK1]

A $2,500 spanking - extreme even in that time.

Reminds me of when I was in my first year of college, 1974. The cops raided my apt because I had a full-sized 4-foot tall plastic 420 plant planted in a metal garbage can on the balcony deck facing the parking lot. They confiscated it - can you believe that - confiscated a plastic cannabis plant. Their "exigent" and potentially illegal search turned up no other elicit "goods" (besides a framed hand-sized actual 420 leaf under glass). I was neither cited nor arrested. The cops would not give me a receipt for the property taken, even though I asked.

I journal-ed the entire "Barney Fife" episode and got an "A" in Speech class for the work. Dang though...that plastic plant looked absolutely REAL. Friends used to come to the apt and have to touch it before they would believe it was only made of plastic. I was the "talk" of the apt complex - in a good way.

I later went down to the local magistrate and asked him if I could have my plastic plant back. He said "yeah, but you would have to sue the cops and the city". He said he was the only city judge in that small town and I had a right to get my plastic plant personal property back. He encouraged me to do it. I later decided not to sue because I was a big 420 user in those days and I did not want to make an enemy of the local cops by embarrassing them in court by publicizing the fact that in their jurisdiction the police could not discern the difference between plastic and real 420.

Sometimes it is best to shut-up and keep your head down rather than have your head lowered for you by the local "nightstick justice".

Ohhh...what a misspent youth! LMAO!!!

Times have changed in a radical way. Growing up (hey, don't get on me. that's what they call it) all I heard was, "Don't experiment with drugs." Today we get involved with using legal State Sponsored vape THC. My doctor and the pharmacist said the same thing, "You will need to experiment with it to see how much to use." I repeated back, "You are telling me I should experiment with drugs?" "Cool!"

 

[ppm Charlie]

This is a fabulous story!!!! The magistrate!!! I got pulled over in N Carolina mountains one time heading to the casino...we were smoking a joint had a Henry left, maybe. It was the most bizarre "arrest" ever. First off, no handcuffs, second off, we sat in the front seats of both cop cars. Thirdly, they intercommed each other and said to pull over and give me the "stuff". My friend got in the back seat of the one car I was in the front of already and the other cop gave the other one, our weed. We went to the precinct where we awaited the magistrate. We sat on top of tables in a conference room. Bullshitted with the cops. One was clearly a past football player who didn't get to the big leagues.. I called him a redneck.. we laughed...Then, in walked what seemed to be the spawn of two fathers, Willie Nelson and Kris Kringle. He said why didn't you just throw it out the window, that's what I do...I said uh I guess I just didn't think of it. He said to come back to court in 2 weeks. We had no way back to our car.. no taxis in the mountains.. I asked the football cop how we get back to our car...he said walk...I rolled my eyes, asked if he was serious, and we started walking. About an 1/8th of a mile down the road we saw lights behind us. The cop picked us up and drove us back to the car. We went to the casino out of pot, and walked by the tables looking for someone that looked liked they smoked to get more weed...we found a joint worth...2 weeks later, we walked in the court room and the officers we had screamed out and waved, hey-its Cheech and Chong!!! When they called us up, one cop wrote on a piece of paper "who's the redneck now!". We paid a 200 buck ticket and left.

A great story!!! LMAO!!! You have to watch the cops in the mountains of NC, they love to spank the out-of-towners.

 

[ppm Charlie]

The followup to my "magistrate story" is: A couple of months later I saw the judge out in public again and he remembered me. He asked me if I got my plastic cannabis plant back in my possession. I said "no" that I had decided not to "kick that hornet's nest". He said: "no matter", your plastic plant came to a "good use". I asked what he was talking about. He said he had asked around about the plastic cannabis plant within the police dept. The magistrate was told that the plastic plant looked so "real" that the police were using it for "training purposes". We both Laughed Our *sses Off!

@Krissi1982 @MAK1 @Paul Squiggle

 

[Krissi Carbone]

The followup to my "magistrate story" is: A couple of months later I saw the judge out in public again and he remembered me. He asked me if I got my plastic cannabis plant back in my possession. I said "no" that I had decided not to "kick that hornet's nest". He said: "no matter", your plastic plant came to a "good use". I asked what he was talking about. He said he had asked around about the plastic cannabis plant within the police dept. The magistrate was told that the plastic plant looked so "real" that the police were using it for "training purposes". We both Laughed Our *sses Off!

@Krissi1982 @MAK1 @Paul Squiggle

FANTASTIC....for training purposes?? Like what kind of training?? For dogs to know what one looks like

 

[bluenoserjoe]

FANTASTIC....for training purposes?? Like what kind of training?? For dogs to know what one looks like

I know, I know. Back in the 70 my dad was a local cop (rough, Not really). I think they cut up ppm Charlie's plastic plant, put the leaves in little envelopes along with a piece of incense (representing hash lol) and some literature describing how to identify the street drugs of the time. If I dig around this old place long enough I might even find one of them. ROGLMAO

 

[MotaMan420]

Old Guy what ph meter do you use -- since I spent over 800 on this toy of a lite I might as well get a little bit more sophisticated , right now I'm just using the drops and color chart comparison. So far no problems , but my motto "hope for the best - plan for the worst" .

Rather be proactive than reactive.. Here's a pic of my new toy bathing my little sprouts -- now at 25 pct, Transferring to 5 gal this weekend..

Happy Grow

MotaMan

 

[Old Guy Teaches]

Hey , My Friend..... It is a "ECO TESTER" PH1. It is light green. I've had this one about 3 Years and zero Problems. new batteries each year that are pretty damn expensive. Last year I tried a New version that was More money and it was a Piece a Of junk !!!!! and was returned.
The way I work is , I use a very small amount of extra stuff as Im Old School grower [as a matter of fact] I was Busted around 1972 for growing a 2 ft plant and the fine was $2,500. I use things I have used a very Long time and I keep it very simple and stay away from all the new fangled stuff they try to sell ya as Im doing this as Im growing a very Long time.
I look at the junk some of these places try to push and I crack up.
For me. It's as simple as I can Be. 25 Gal Reuseable Smart Pots, Fox farm soil, Powder Like what you would soak in for sore Muscles "Epson Salt" for first 2 Months Only....."Magnesium". Then.... all through grow till the end I use General Hydroponics "Grow" till I see White Hairs then I switch to Gen Hydro Flower. when ready and buds blow up. I switch to Clean Ph water for 2/3 weeks. Cut and Hang. Thats it. I have 6 pardners and we share everything as they all do the exact same thing. OH.....and We do Sour Diesel clones. I do not and will not do seeds.
keep it simple, Legal and clean. No Problems or Bugs. and BTW, at my age I very, very seldom smoke anymore. Way to many Years. Keep it simple My Friend.

 

[Krissi Carbone]

Hey , My Friend..... It is a "ECO TESTER" PH1. It is light green. I've had this one about 3 Years and zero Problems. new batteries each year that are pretty damn expensive. Last year I tried a New version that was More money and it was a Piece a Of junk !!!!! and was returned.
The way I work is , I use a very small amount of extra stuff as Im Old School grower [as a matter of fact] I was Busted around 1972 for growing a 2 ft plant and the fine was $2,500. I use things I have used a very Long time and I keep it very simple and stay away from all the new fangled stuff they try to sell ya as Im doing this as Im growing a very Long time.
I look at the junk some of these places try to push and I crack up.
For me. It's as simple as I can Be. 25 Gal Reuseable Smart Pots, Fox farm soil, Powder Like what you would soak in for sore Muscles "Epson Salt" for first 2 Months Only....."Magnesium". Then.... all through grow till the end I use General Hydroponics "Grow" till I see White Hairs then I switch to Gen Hydro Flower. when ready and buds blow up. I switch to Clean Ph water for 2/3 weeks. Cut and Hang. Thats it. I have 6 pardners and we share everything as they all do the exact same thing. OH.....and We do Sour Diesel clones. I do not and will not do seeds.
keep it simple, Legal and clean. No Problems or Bugs. and BTW, at my age I very, very seldom smoke anymore. Way to many Years. Keep it simple My Friend.

Not that's a helluva harvest....holy moly

 

[Delps8]

Experts say the difference from adding CO2 is nuanced. I other words negligible in a sealed environment. Best of luck in your endeavors.

“experts” and “nuanced” are qualitative and I try to avoid qualitative descriptions because they’re vague and that can lead to misunderstandings.

Photosynthesis tends to increase as ambient levels of CO2 increase. That’s easily demonstrated and increasing CO2 is accepted as a mechanism to increase output in horticulture because the impact is immediate, quantifiable, reproducible, and cost effective.

Whether or not someone agrees with that statement or not is immaterial.

 

[MAK1]

“experts” and “nuanced” are qualitative and I try to avoid qualitative descriptions because they’re vague and that can lead to misunderstandings.

Photosynthesis tends to increase as ambient levels of CO2 increase. That’s easily demonstrated and increasing CO2 is accepted as a mechanism to increase output in horticulture because the impact is immediate, quantifiable, reproducible, and cost effective.

Whether or not someone agrees with that statement or not is immaterial.

We all understand CO2 is needed in horticulture. What ever this means. Too many days in the lab for me. As for the rest of the story, I'm willing to let you have fun with it. I'm sure its must be a real gas. Give us some numbers

 

[MAK1]

We all understand CO2 is needed in horticulture. What ever this means. Too many days in the lab for me. As for the rest of the story, I'm willing to let you have fun with it. I'm sure its must be a real gas. Give us some numbers

This might be a fun topic. This is about amino acid fertilizers. Where could we find a natural source of amino acids?
Plant processes and the amino acids involved.

Function	Amino acids	References
Anti-Stress	Hydroxyproline, Proline	Hayat et al. 2012. Plant Signal Behav. 7(11): 1456-1466.
Chelating agent	Cysteine, Glutamine, Glycine, Histidine, Lysine	Souri. 2016. Open Agriculture 1:118-122.
Cold weather resistance	Alanine, Arginine	Levitt. 2012. Science. Chilling, Freezing, and High Temperature Stresses.
Plant development, pollen fertility	Hydroxyproline, Proline	Mattioli et al. 2018 BMC Plant Biol. 18(1):356
Growth stimulation	Glutamine, Glycine	Noroozlo et al. 2019. Open Agric. 4:164-172
Auxin precursor	Serine, Tryptophan, Valine	Zhao. 2014. Arabidopsis Book 12:eO173
Chlorophyll precursor	Glutamic acid	Gomez-Silva et al. 1985. Planta 165(1):12-22
Cell division	Arginine	Winter et al. 2015. Front Plant Sci. 6:534.
Woody tissue and lignin formation	Phenylalanine	Bonner and Jensen. 1998. ACS Symposium. Chpt 2.
Ethylene synthesis	Methionine	Hanson and Kende. 1976. Plant Physiol. 57:528-537.
Germination	Asparagine, Arginine	Desmaison and Tixier. 1986. Plant Physiol. 81(2):692.
Hormone precursor	Methionine, Tryptophan	https://6e.plantphys.net/app03.html
Viral resistance	Alanine	Zeier. 2013. Plant, Cell & Environ. 35:2085-2103.

Amino Acids as Plant Biostimulants

Although primarily serving as nutrients for the plant, specific amino acids can play additional roles as a biostimulant.

www.growerssecret.com

 

[thehiker]

I think Sigma-Aldrich carries non-animal sourced amino acids. As far as a "natural" source, good luck.....I haven't a clue.

 

[Old Guy Teaches]

WAY...... over my Head. have fun.

 

[MAK1]

I think Sigma-Aldrich carries non-animal sourced amino acids. As far as a "natural" source, good luck.....I haven't a clue.

DISCLAIMER: Do not do this at home.
I shouldn't EGG you on like this. Egg white, egg shells and the yolks too can be used as plant food. There is so little shared knowledge on this.

 

[Old Guy Teaches]

EWWWW.

 

[Grand Daddy Black]

You guys are getting deep in the weedz!

Here's a pic of what's going on here on Flip day + 8.

 

[Old Guy Teaches]

NICE BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!