Any time you transplant it is important to saturate the new container, the goal being to merge the two soil regions. This will of course put a lot of water into that new container, and as you say, it should take some time for the plant to use that much water. The goal of transplanting is to make a larger plant, and indeed it is normal to see a very strong growth spurt shortly upon moving her to a larger space as the roots expand out to find the new limits to the environment.I have a watering question for you Emilya...... I recently transplanted one Nebula in a 15 gallon smart pot. She has been topped and is a very healthy 16" plant. How would you water one like this? It has had 2 liter of water, poured directly in the center. I would think it will be another month before I thoroughly water it but do you have any suggestions for me? It is in FFOF and Perlite 3:1.
Any time you transplant it is important to saturate the new container, the goal being to merge the two soil regions. This will of course put a lot of water into that new container, and as you say, it should take some time for the plant to use that much water. The goal of transplanting is to make a larger plant, and indeed it is normal to see a very strong growth spurt shortly upon moving her to a larger space as the roots expand out to find the new limits to the environment.
Knowing that the roots will soon catch up, you can cheat a little bit on the first watering after a large transplant. I did this exact thing in my current LSD log... I transplanted into 5 and 7 gallon containers from 3 quart containers. Knowing that it would take a week or longer to use all the water after the transplant and merging, I had to make sure to keep my original rootball teaming with living microlife... I could not let it totally dry out. 4 days into the transplant (bottom still wet) I watered with 1/2 gallon of water, spread out on the surface of the original rootball. 1/2 gallon wasn't enough to soak all the way down to the bottom and raise the water table, but it was enough to wet the top and the original rootball area. This was perfect, because then 4 days after that, the bottom had dried out... it took 8 day total on the 5 gallon containers and 9 on the 7 gallon... with your 15 gallon container I would figure on up to 2 weeks to totally dry out the first time, and then shave a few days off of that each wet/dry cycle for a couple of rounds until system stabilizes at some number for the rest of the grow. While you waiting for the roots to establish and assume a stabilized wet/dry cycle number, I would continue to water every 4-6 days with a smaller amount on the top, while waiting for the bottom to dry out for the big watering. Once your roots establish, or the wet/dry cycle gets to a point that the top could survive the period, then go back to the watering the entire container to saturation and then waiting for it to dry completely.
Great thread and quite a bit of needed knowledge disseminated here. One thing I noticed here and in other threads is that no one seems to be[or know] about polymers in the soil mix. As a guerrilla farmer for many a decade it was back breaking work to haul gallons of water to a reclusive site. Here in Texas where there may be 30 days of +100 degree weather, and at least 3 months of +95 degree weather, the advent of polymers in the late 80's was a god send. To me polymers make it stupid proof and helps hold moisture around the root ball. I've had 6 foot plants drooping the next day after a gallon and a half slow dripping around the plant because of extreme heat evaporation. Just my 2 cents worth of info to this fine thread.
Wow Rad like your signature. So you have a perpetual motion harvest going, probably Indicas, nice. Ever try my favorite, an ebb and flow system? Right now I'm doing pots but prefer the E&B since I want to get near a 100% harvest of CKS seeds and with cloning in mind. Next time try a 1/2 cup of polymers and watch your watering get cut in half. Cheers mate.
Could you suggest a progression of pots?
I would like to get maximum benefit but not repot unnecessarily.
I am REALLY beginning to think soil is going to be the way to go for me
|1" starter cup||solo/beer cup||1 gallon||3 or 5 gallon||7 or 10 or 15|
|week 1-2||week 3-4||week 5-6||week 7-8||week 9-12|
While out today I had an idea.
Could you just put each pot on a cheap old bathroom scale and keep track of the water that way.
I know the plants gain weight but not much compared to the weight of water.
That would eliminate the need to pick them up and guess
Once a plant has the droop will the leaves ever stand up and lay flat again? I had to an emergency flush one night a couple weeks ago. A couple got the droop really bad. Since then they have completely dried out before being watered again. But the leaves still have a heavy droop on them
Reptilian, it sounds like you have some other problem, and I would be glad to take a look at it and give you my advice. Do you have a journal going where I can see some pictures? If not, please start one and you will soon have more help than you can imagine. Send me a PM when you do and I will be sure to look in.
That being said, our plants droop regularly, with each night cycle. They do tuck up and rest during the dark period and then they should rise up and greet the sun in the morning. Plants that are constantly drooping are doing so because they can not develop enough transpirational water pressure in the main stalk of the plant. This of course can happen if there is not enough water, but it can also happen if you water too frequently. Plants that are rootbound will also exhibit this effect, but almost always a constant droop is going to indicate some sort of root problem. Your description of an "emergency flush" tends to make me think that you water too often, even though I know that you don't think that, since you mentioned letting them dry out completely. Let me ask this... when they are dry completely, how are you determining this? Are the containers as light as a feather? Are you using a moisture meter all the way down to the bottom?
hi emilya.i dont have a journal going. i have been tempted to start one i beleive the info and help i could get would be priceless but i am nervous about backlash that could come from it and having to much exposure on the net.in my little corner of the world they still cant decide whether to legalise or not. lots of talk and promises of it but... The help i have gotten on this site already from weaselcracker, obiwan and major pita (just to name a few) has been great. thanks again guys. i tried to upload a pic for you to look at but for some strange reason i cannot today... stumped. anyway i tell by lifting them for weight. some times i turn it upside down take it out to see the roots and watch for signs from the plants like wilting. the emergency flush only happened becasuse i accidentally grabbed the bottle of concentrated sensi grow pt b instead of the watering bottle i use and watered them with that so i realized like 2 mins later what i had done so i flushed the good so they wouldn't die from nute overload then they got really droopy. leaves on one point right to the ground i have never seem the droop so badly. i then let them go almost bone dry before giving them any more water. i will try again to put up a pic later