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The Real Reason Marijuana Is Illegal

TorturedSoul

Member of the Month: May 2009, Oct 2010, Sept 2017
The powers-that-be in every government seem to think that they require some kind of enemy. If one does not exist, they create one. This is nothing new. In earlier times - and even now, for some - a different religion than the one that the majority of the subjects follow served this purpose. Today, though, many are too apathetic in regards to that thing for it to work.

Communism is still a popular enemy in certain circles. Although there is a danger there, IMHO. Championing the "capitalist versus communist" fight brings with it the danger... that people will realize they are actually living in a bastardized socialist regime :rolleyes: . Fights which bring with them the enlightenment of one's own people can be dangerous. The mouth-breathers make far better cannon-fodder - and voters. . . .
 

lxcpanda

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The powers-that-be in every government seem to think that they require some kind of enemy. If one does not exist, they create one. This is nothing new. In earlier times - and even now, for some - a different religion than the one that the majority of the subjects follow served this purpose. Today, though, many are too apathetic in regards to that thing for it to work.

Communism is still a popular enemy in certain circles. Although there is a danger there, IMHO. Championing the "capitalist versus communist" fight brings with it the danger... that people will realize they are actually living in a bastardized socialist regime :rolleyes: . Fights which bring with them the enlightenment of one's own people can be dangerous. The mouth-breathers make far better cannon-fodder - and voters. . . .
i don't deny there is danger with communism either, especially when the country/economy has not stabilized with an industrial production base. there has been chaos before/after a government adopted it without a stable industrialized economy but no system is isolated.

can see the textbook regime change tactics employed by us foreign policy in venezula today with the street "protests", and the public response. us sanctions an oil export dependent country during oil price crash > general american public: "socialism inherently has bad economic policy, what a bad dictator" . when usa sanctions north korea > public generally buys the propaganda that it's cause kim is starving his citizens human right etc. so i find it ironic when the public of opposition sentiment say communists or socialists lack of critical thinking..
 

TorturedSoul

Member of the Month: May 2009, Oct 2010, Sept 2017
I have learned to try not to get carried away in regards to political discussions on friendly forums, lol (and I think they might even be somewhat discouraged here so that the membership doesn't descend into arguments that all seem to begin with the words "You people." But I will type a little bit:

I see lots of socialist and socialist welfare state nations. I have yet to see a modern capitalist one (probably because it'd actually take merit to become Someone of Importance in one). But I haven't seen a true communist society, either. The PRC sure isn't one, and neither was the USSR. A real communist country wouldn't have had ZiL lanes (rezervniye polosy) for the party elite, to cite one tiny example of why that wasn't communism.

True capitalism: I made a product. If it's a good one, lots of people will buy it and I'll succeed. If it's a poor one, hardly anyone will buy it and I'll fail. If it's a really poor one, someone will probably come along and attack me to avenge a loved one who was killed by using my product - and I will not have earned enough money to afford police services, so there won't be much worry that I'll live to make any more really poor products. Meanwhile, if I treat my employees fairly and offer them a competitive benefits package, I will have lots of happy and productive workers to help the process along and, if I do neither of these things, I won't and, therefore, will go out of business.

What we call capitalism: The automobiles you are manufacturing must have 17 airbags, headlights that operate any time the key is in the "on" position, traction-control, rear-view cameras so that people won't have to use their mirrors, etc. You must offer 83 different benefits to your employees - half of which will still quit and f*ck off to the nearest welfare office to sign up for benefits.

The world is doomed :rolleyes: .
 

GrizzWald

Plant of the Month: June 2016 - Nug of the Month: Aug 2017
New title, why cannabis is illegal in
20th century America and its effect on other countries....
Was outlawed in many countries prior to any dates written. You didn't want to be smoking in Egypt in 14th century.. Just wasn't in America...
 
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Captain Cannabis

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The REAL reason it's still illegal, is really because, most people voice their opinions from the shadows,
Some people voice their opinions from the sidelines, and a Few people voice their opinions from the Frontline.

We are ALMOST there People! Participation is Required!
 

hjayu94

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Perhaps I'm too trusting of humanity, but if I had to guess... I think it was illegal for the simple reason it was a narcotic, that many people in the country viewed as "bad". Now it's becoming legal because people's views are changing.. Realizing it's not soo bad, and in certain cases actually helpful. So why not make er legal, and make some money right?
 

falstaffo

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corporate greed and control is the main reason now i feel
big pharma need sick patients, so synthetic prescription drugs are great, because the supress issues while causing more creatig need for more synthetic drugs..

the paper cotton and oil industry cannot allow hemp to be widely used for these purposes, because it is toooooo cost effective to warrant the ability to create monstrous profits

corporate greed and lobbying i guess

well fuck em all i say lol
 

Bud

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Woodstock 2, coming round soon, a place to meet and greet other growers, at least in the northeast b seeing u or selling to u there.lol
 

Bud

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There’s never been a reported death... from weed, I’m just saying.
The real reason it’s illegal is for profit, when Nixon made pot illegal u may remember “ The war on drugs” and classified it...as a dangerous drug?All gov. studies were halted. But on the flip side the police ranks were swelling along with the their budget, the courts, and jails, by making it illegal thus allowing the criminal element to enter. Talk about short sited, and now 40 years later not much has changed the governments still in the back water with out a paddle and without a clue !
At least study the the product before condemning it.
 
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Long post!

You started talking about marijuana, which people use medically and recreationally, then you made a long list of historic uses for hemp, which is a completely different type of plant used for manufacturing products, you dropped namea of people who grew hemp hundreds of years ago.

There is no relation between the uses for hemp and the uses for properly grown sensimillia marijuana.

Are You're saying hemp was outlawed because it comprimised various business potentials, and not because it developed onto a highly potent recreational drug?
 
There’s never been a reported death... from weed, I’m just saying.
The real reason it’s illegal is for profit, when Nixon made pot illegal u may remember “ The war on drugs” and classified it...as a dangerous drug?All gov. studies were halted. But on the flip side the police ranks were swelling along with the their budget, the courts, and jails, by making it illegal thus allowing the criminal element to enter. Talk about short sited, and now 40 years later not much has changed the governments still in the back water with out a paddle and without a clue !
At least study the the product before condemning it.

Has a chronic pot smoker never died from lung cancer? That's a pretty direct co-relation
 

TorturedSoul

Member of the Month: May 2009, Oct 2010, Sept 2017
I think I once read that the incidence of lung cancer is lower for heavy consumers of both cigarettes and cannabis than it is for heavy consumers of cigarettes who don't also consume cannabis.

But I can't seem to find a link/source, so it could just be my brain's wishful thinking, IDK.
 

Bud

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Has a chronic pot smoker never died from lung cancer? That's a pretty direct co-relation
Has a non smoker ever died of lung cancer? Of course, so there’s no real correlation between the two.imo. As the states legitimize weed, the stigma of it being bad is fading away, now if those old guard ass holes in Washington would do the same thing we could move on to more important matters. THIS IS NOT A BIGGIE chill out.
 

bluter

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Has a chronic pot smoker never died from lung cancer? That's a pretty direct co-relation

thc has been recently shown to be an aggressive anti-cancer agent. it attaches to a cell receptor and triggers a necrosis function in damaged or mutated cells. while smoking is a poor delivery vehicle, it has been suggested that this may explain the lack of lung cancers in chronic ganja smokers.
 
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