OldMedUser
Formerly Known as LabRat
I have what I think is a good idea about what's going on with this plant and lesser so on the other one also grown in soilless mix with AN Connoisseur, Big Bud, Rhino Skin and I think too much CalMag.
The upper fan leaves attached to bud sites are yellowing but older and lower fans that aren't are fine and the fan across from a yellowing one can be fine as well. I'd not worry if a few, or even many of the older, lower fan leaves, were doing this almost half way thru flower.
They are yellowing back from the tips in what looks like low N and/or Mg. After they are completely yellow the tips start shriveling up and turning brown while remaining soft and pliable. So it's not toxic salts buildup with thick, crispy dry, brown leaves.
After consulting my grow bibles and looking for similar symptoms in this forum I'm thinking that the calmag I've been giving with each feeding may have led to a buildup of Ca and that is interfering with Mg uptake. I gave it another heavy feeding of the usual but instead of using calmag I gave it 1 heaping tsp/gal of epsom salts instead. The symptoms hint at lack of sulfur too so if it is then I've covered both bases with the epsom salts.
It's Technaflora MagiCal with the following ingredients.
N - 2% Nitrate Nitrogen
Ca - 3.25%
Mg - 1.25%
Fe - 0.11%
The Ca seems higher in proportion to the Mg to me than it should be but I'm not sure. I got this one instead of the one AN makes because AN was over twice the price and I figured I needed some CalMag and any old CalMag should do right. Penny wise, pound foolish maybe? That was 5 or 6 years ago so maybe it's gone bad?
It was about 36 hours ago that I fed them and if it seems to be progressing further by light's on tonight then I plan to flush each 4gal pot with 5 gal of town water tomorrow that I will have to go to a friend's to get today. The plant that is the worst and is the bigger of the two has been in that pot for at least 4 or 5 months and the other about 3. I had them on half rations since the new year to keep growth slow and just got around to getting them in gear about 6 weeks ago.
The greener looking stuff in the front with the nicer buds is from my NL girl that is in DWC using the same nutes at about 1200ppm and barely a yellow leaf on it. It is a re-vegged girl that nearly died and has come back great.
I'm fairly good at diagnosing problems like this and I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track but maybe it's something a bit different so I thought I'd toss it out there and see what you guys think.
L8r
The upper fan leaves attached to bud sites are yellowing but older and lower fans that aren't are fine and the fan across from a yellowing one can be fine as well. I'd not worry if a few, or even many of the older, lower fan leaves, were doing this almost half way thru flower.
They are yellowing back from the tips in what looks like low N and/or Mg. After they are completely yellow the tips start shriveling up and turning brown while remaining soft and pliable. So it's not toxic salts buildup with thick, crispy dry, brown leaves.
After consulting my grow bibles and looking for similar symptoms in this forum I'm thinking that the calmag I've been giving with each feeding may have led to a buildup of Ca and that is interfering with Mg uptake. I gave it another heavy feeding of the usual but instead of using calmag I gave it 1 heaping tsp/gal of epsom salts instead. The symptoms hint at lack of sulfur too so if it is then I've covered both bases with the epsom salts.
It's Technaflora MagiCal with the following ingredients.
N - 2% Nitrate Nitrogen
Ca - 3.25%
Mg - 1.25%
Fe - 0.11%
The Ca seems higher in proportion to the Mg to me than it should be but I'm not sure. I got this one instead of the one AN makes because AN was over twice the price and I figured I needed some CalMag and any old CalMag should do right. Penny wise, pound foolish maybe? That was 5 or 6 years ago so maybe it's gone bad?
It was about 36 hours ago that I fed them and if it seems to be progressing further by light's on tonight then I plan to flush each 4gal pot with 5 gal of town water tomorrow that I will have to go to a friend's to get today. The plant that is the worst and is the bigger of the two has been in that pot for at least 4 or 5 months and the other about 3. I had them on half rations since the new year to keep growth slow and just got around to getting them in gear about 6 weeks ago.
The greener looking stuff in the front with the nicer buds is from my NL girl that is in DWC using the same nutes at about 1200ppm and barely a yellow leaf on it. It is a re-vegged girl that nearly died and has come back great.
I'm fairly good at diagnosing problems like this and I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track but maybe it's something a bit different so I thought I'd toss it out there and see what you guys think.
L8r