Want to yield around 10pounds to get out of debt

[difficulttofindone01]

Hi all. Really sorry if I may sound pushy but I want to know if there's a way to yield about 10 pounds in one grow without taking too much space. Im about to rent a house which has a close neighborhood and my goal is to do a one time shot to get out of financial troubles. The fact is that I see auto flowering seeds giving about 500g/m2 but when looking at most small grow-house I see lots of plants stacked together in small space and dont seems to get too much yield.
MY SITUATION:
1 Im a beginner
2.Choose between feminised and feminised autoflowering (which strain will suits most my prerequisite.)
3.One room to yield about 10pounds.
4.Low cost lights to prevent suspicion about my electricity bill.
5.Carbon filter or any other setup to prevent odor suspicion.

I would be really grateful to get some help to do the right thing to be able to get nearer to my goal.
Thanks again for reading.

 

[Emilya Green]

Hi @difficulttofindone01 and welcome to the forum!

The size and yield of your plants is closely related to the container size and the power of the lights you are using. Five gallon containers will allow you to grow plants that will produce around 4-8 oz, depending on your skill level. Larger containers will allow for larger plants, but it will take more time to grow them out to get to a good size. You have to weigh your room size with how many containers you can fit into it.

You can also go with smaller containers, lets say 2 gallon, and you can quickly veg the plants and go for a bunch of them... a sea of green is what they call this.... and put out 50 plants... each yielding around an ounce of product. This will require 100 gallons of soil and the space to do it in.

10 lbs is a lot of product... 160 ounces. 160 divided by 5 (an average amount of ounces grown in 5 gallon containers) means you would need to grow out 32 plants. This means 160 gallons of soil will be needed and enough lights to cover the square footage these plants would require.

There is no way to do what you are wanting to do in one grow, cheaply. The amount that most of us have to invest in soil, nutrients and lighting makes this a fairly expensive hobby to get into, no one that would be able to make you a lot of money in the short term. Set your goal a little more reasonably... try to get your first pound grown and cured.... and then go from there. Growing pot is not a get rich quick scheme... it is just too expensive to do it right.

 

[Buds Buddy]

Realistically, you could grow up to 5 plants in a 4' x 4' tent & pull up to 3 - 3.5 lbs. with photo period Fem seeds.
The cost: 4 x 4 tent = $150, 6" Fan & Filter = $130, Mars Hydro TSW 3000 LED = $400, Pots & Soil = $65, Nutrients = $25 if you use Mega Crop, on top of that you may need a Humidifier & Oscillating Fan. So you are looking at around $800 to get started with a decent set up. There goes 1/2 lb. at $100 oz. Now your stuff is paid for & it's all profit other then the basics & electric. You're probably looking at $30 or so a month in electric.

 

[CannaFish]

this sounds like a bad idea for everybody. especially your landlord and the chumps buying your auto beasters.

 

[JohnnieJC3]

Back when I was doing HPS Indoor, my partners cousin who also had a 4 light HPS setup Co2 the works in a sealed room and he would do 2.5 lb per light in a 10x10(100 sq ft). He also grew the same strain(Triple X high yielding SUPER Skunky) every single time and knew it backwards and forwards to get those kind of numbers in Coco. I would start with a 4x4 or at least a 2x4 and MASTER your craft to see if you can produce TOP shelf product. I grow for myself and a few others and we all like variety so I don't get attached personally. Production wise, find or pheno hunt for some good genetics and GO the mother route. I've also went the small plant direction and to be honest, it's a TON of work every day for small plants. I prefer medium plants indoor and usually SCROG or bonsai 25-30". Every setup is different with environmental conditions, dial everything IN before you go for it. Mistakes CAN and will be costly if exhaust, intake, and lighting isn't setup correctly. I can also tell you running 4k watts in residential power(non commercial) areas is EXPENSIVE. That being said, I don't run HPS anymore and haven't for a long time. The heat is TOO much. That's my 2 cents.

 

[Grandma Weedstein]

this sounds like a bad idea for everybody. especially your landlord and the chumps buying your auto beasters.

But you have to appreciate the refreshing candidness!

Aside from the economic concerns, though, this refreshing candidness and entrepreneurial eagerness could also get our new friend in trouble with law enforcement.

difficulttofindone01: Have you considered day trading instead, or maybe just investing in lottery tickets? I’ve heard there’s money in pork bellies as well.

 

[MochaBud]

Welcome to the forum @difficulttofindone01

Hi all. Really sorry if I may sound pushy but I want to know if there's a way to yield about 10 pounds in one grow without taking too much space. Im about to rent a house which has a close neighborhood and my goal is to do a one time shot to get out of financial troubles. The fact is that I see auto flowering seeds giving about 500g/m2 but when looking at most small grow-house I see lots of plants stacked together in small space and dont seems to get too much yield.
MY SITUATION:
1 Im a beginner
2.Choose between feminised and feminised autoflowering (which strain will suits most my prerequisite.)
3.One room to yield about 10pounds.
4.Low cost lights to prevent suspicion about my electricity bill.
5.Carbon filter or any other setup to prevent odor suspicion.

I would be really grateful to get some help to do the right thing to be able to get nearer to my goal.
Thanks again for reading.

Sounds like you're taking a gamble on not only going further in debt, but also loosing your freedom, NOT WORTH IT!! Especially if you have a family...good luck to you though

 

[difficulttofindone01]

Realistically, you could grow up to 5 plants in a 4' x 4' tent & pull up to 3 - 3.5 lbs. with photo period Fem seeds.
The cost: 4 x 4 tent = $150, 6" Fan & Filter = $130, Mars Hydro TSW 3000 LED = $400, Pots & Soil = $65, Nutrients = $25 if you use Mega Crop, on top of that you may need a Humidifier & Oscillating Fan. So you are looking at around $800 to get started with a decent set up. There goes 1/2 lb. at $100 oz. Now your stuff is paid for & it's all profit other then the basics & electric. You're probably looking at $30 or so a month in electric.

Hi thanks for taking your time to reply. In my country 1oz of hydro of any strains cost 800USD(eight hundred minimum) since the law is really tough here. Thats why I want to take the risk.
One more issue is to try mostly DIY tent and setup since everything should be imported. Thanks for the recommendation of Fem seeds too.

 

[difficulttofindone01]

Welcome to the forum @difficulttofindone01


Sounds like you're taking a gamble on not only going further in debt, but also loosing your freedom, NOT WORTH IT!! Especially if you have a family...good luck to you though

Hi thanks for taking your time to reply. Its a gamble Im thinking since long. Thats why I want to do it the right way not to have a too high electricity bill and no smell for the neighborhood. Ive got a good profile, I dont smoke, dont drink, dont do nightlife outings and dont chill out with friends. Im the last person they will suspect.
In a better world what could be the best scenario to fulfill this goal?

 

[difficulttofindone01]

But you have to appreciate the refreshing candidness!

Aside from the economic concerns, though, this refreshing candidness and entrepreneurial eagerness could also get our new friend in trouble with law enforcement.

difficulttofindone01: Have you considered day trading instead, or maybe just investing in lottery tickets? I’ve heard there’s money in pork bellies as well.

LOL It might seems funny but Im really serious on the matter. The probability to get my project a success with your help is higher than gambling, trading or searching for gold.

 

[oldsmokey]

You have to learn to walk before you run. Start small learn the basics of growing and take it from there. Growing large scale in a rented home show total lack of respect for your land Lord. It's very easy to have a house condemned that way. I am speaking as a landlord and I do regular inspections on my properties. If you were my tenant I would catch you.

 

[Justin Goody]

Welcome to the forum @difficulttofindone01


Sounds like you're taking a gamble on not only going further in debt, but also loosing your freedom, NOT WORTH IT!! Especially if you have a family...good luck to you though

Was gonna say something along the same lines- Might as well take the money to the casino. 1 spider mite will ruin the whole plan if someone isn’t watching for it. I’ve spent a fair amount of time watching fellow smokers try their hand at growing. All had big $ plans as well. All ended up with disappointment, at least in that first grow. I’m not saying it can’t be done (I quit an amazing job in 2001 and grew pot for a living instead) but the odds are against the first grow being very profitable. Best of luck, you’ll never know until you try.

 

[Dwight Monk]

Hi thanks for taking your time to reply. Its a gamble Im thinking since long. Thats why I want to do it the right way not to have a too high electricity bill and no smell for the neighborhood. Ive got a good profile, I dont smoke, dont drink, dont do nightlife outings and dont chill out with friends. Im the last person they will suspect.
In a better world what could be the best scenario to fulfill this goal?

10 lbs from a first time grower (even with the best help in the world) without spending money on electricity and no smell concerns somewhere real near impossible (or odds stacked way against you). Outdoors only way to get around the power thing and that has a multitude of other problems. I mean it is all relative as can't get 10 lbs magically growing indoors as power usage and spending more money on good lights and equipment going to put you in the hole even farther, and w/o growing before quite possible you wouldn't get that money back on first grow, as no guarantees on how much finished product you get. Along with not only the risk of getting caught growing in a non friendly country (which puts you further in the hole once you get out of jail with fines and legal fees), you have to get rid of it which gets attention no matter if you have a "good profile". And not only the attention of the authorities but the folks that control the flow of what is available in those kind of markets where price is that high per oz, they don't take kindly to freelancers stepping on their toes w/o them getting their cut.

 

[Buds Buddy]

At $800 an oz. I'd learn to like alcohol.

 

[Buds Buddy]

What do the jobs pay there ... $150 per hour ?

 

[Herby Paisley]

George young, Pablo Escobar, El chapo.. All men seeking to get out of poverty and chose the route of drug traffic-ing to become rich and free....Look where they all ended up 2 in prison for life, and 1 dead and tons of others we haven't even heard of in unmarked graves in the desert. They all started out small and got caught up in the lure of the hustle! ...There's other easier safer ways to become debt free. Like many have said already its not worth it.

 

[Chimora Ranger]

" LOL It might seems funny but Im really serious on the matter. The probability to get my project a success with your help is higher than gambling, trading or searching for gold."

Because those are the only alternatives. Oy. Learn how to grow before you try to make a killing at it in my OPINION. Is it possible? It is POSSIBLE. Might even be slightly more possible than the routes you just mentioned.

It isn't even probable for most seasoned growers. If you get thrips, botrytis, mites, heat wave, power disruption, people who know you're growing... Every one of those is designed to sink your ship. Learn it first. Go professional second.

 

[Grandma Weedstein]

LOL It might seems funny but Im really serious on the matter. The probability to get my project a success with your help is higher than gambling, trading or searching for gold.

One of the earlier posters basically laid out what you will need: 35 containers of 5 gallons each, and enough light and nutrients keep them alive.

If you want to do this while keeping electricity costs to a minimum, you should go with LED lights. Research different lights and how much grow area they are designed to illuminate, then buy the appropriate number. This alone will most likely require thousands of dollars of investment.

If you want to do it smell-free or as close as possible, you will need a heavy duty filter of some sort for the exhaust. You will also need tents or to build your own grow rooms to prevent light leaks that would degrade your flower quality. The options for this are virtually limitless and will require a detailed understanding of your home and where you plan to grow, so you’ll need to do your homework.

Although I am sure you are right about being an upstanding, non-suspicious person, I assume you plan to make big bucks on cannabis because you plan to sell it on the black market. You’re not going to get sky-high prices per pound in the legal market.

So I assume you already have someone you trust who will buy those 10 pounds off you for top dollar? If you are planning to sell off those 10 pounds a dimesack at a time to maximize profit, I strongly suggest you start lifting weights and training in mixed martial arts as soon as possible. These will be prove to be invaluable in prison.

 

[oldsmokey]

Well all the info you need to make it happen is right here. You just have to sort through it. There is no magic formula knowledge and experience a little luck never hurts. Oh ya and money!

 

[StoneOtter]

Get some experience with a small grow, then go up from there. You have to know you can grow and have a tuned in grow area, then you can envision the next move. Just a thought. Welcome aboard!