SouthernOnt
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yeah 4-8 ounces should last me till the next indoor harvest and will let me grow some bigger mothers for next years outdoor going real big next year
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you should be able to pull 8oz easy peasy with a 400 watter ont, that would be .55g/w. i'm sure you can pull that off.
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tampa is hot as a bitch.
i'll be heading home tomorrow, with an overnight camping stop. should be home by sat night.
I can't wait to get home and see my babies. I should be able to harvest the HK when i get back, which will be needed because i brought the rest of my SR down here with me, and as of last night, I'm out. people down here really loved it though.
plus I'm hoping my HS is getting close to support 10 clones being taken. I wonder what a week away will do, last time i was happy with the progress when i was gone for 10 days.
as always, many thanks to Father Baker for checking in on my girls while im away!!!
(i wish i had some bud for the camping part tomorrow.) DOH!
i'll be heading home tomorrow, with an overnight camping stop. should be home by sat night.
I can't wait to get home and see my babies. I should be able to harvest the HK when i get back, which will be needed because i brought the rest of my SR down here with me, and as of last night, I'm out. people down here really loved it though.
plus I'm hoping my HS is getting close to support 10 clones being taken. I wonder what a week away will do, last time i was happy with the progress when i was gone for 10 days.
as always, many thanks to Father Baker for checking in on my girls while im away!!!
(i wish i had some bud for the camping part tomorrow.) DOH!
DownOver
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Thanks for the comments on my grow and on CMX's journal. I really do appreciate your thoughts.
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anything for the brotherhood man, we're all put here only once, and it just so happens that you and I are here at the same time for the same purpose on the same website. I love to help just to help, and I love to talk just to talk, and I love to learn just to learn, and I love to smoke, just to get really high and have really long run on thoughts like this one. lol.
just trying to live and learn.
thanks for stopping by my brother.
just trying to live and learn.
thanks for stopping by my brother.
drmartygreen
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just read over your grow, and i really liked what i saw
i was especially digging the hindu kush, even if the auxins aren't making a substantial difference, you defiantly are doing something right. She sure looks juicy
I will be sticking around to watch these girls, best of luck to you.
i was especially digging the hindu kush, even if the auxins aren't making a substantial difference, you defiantly are doing something right. She sure looks juicy
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thanks Doc!
i personally don't think either of my two journals were a great success, although not a huge failure either. . . well if you consider them an opportunity to teach and learn about rotational growing and pitfalls to avoid then they were a huge success. lol. but no impressive yields yet for me.
anyways my next journal should be the big one, where it all finally comes together. less experiment and way more about production. that one should start when this one finishes, around sept. 1st. tune in and I promise I won't disappoint!
but yeah, isn't the HK a cute little bugger? I'll be home in a couple days to chop her and set her ablaze! I can't wait!
thanks for stopping in Doc.
new pics when I get home.
i personally don't think either of my two journals were a great success, although not a huge failure either. . . well if you consider them an opportunity to teach and learn about rotational growing and pitfalls to avoid then they were a huge success. lol. but no impressive yields yet for me.
anyways my next journal should be the big one, where it all finally comes together. less experiment and way more about production. that one should start when this one finishes, around sept. 1st. tune in and I promise I won't disappoint!
but yeah, isn't the HK a cute little bugger? I'll be home in a couple days to chop her and set her ablaze! I can't wait!
thanks for stopping in Doc.
new pics when I get home.
SouthernOnt
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not sure weather to go with 1 gallons and do as many as possible or just go for 4 bigger plants
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yeah, you said SOG before Ont, but if your aim is a mere 8 oz, i would go for the 4-6 bigger plants. might take a bit longer to veg, but will be a lot easier to maintain, water, etc.
if you topped them, and tied them, or scrog'ed them you could pull 2 oz each easy. I would prob go for bigger plants just because it would be easier to water. but with only 400W you'd have to keep the canopy pretty even to maximize the light penetration.
if you topped them, and tied them, or scrog'ed them you could pull 2 oz each easy. I would prob go for bigger plants just because it would be easier to water. but with only 400W you'd have to keep the canopy pretty even to maximize the light penetration.
CanbisMxmus
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For a single 400w, go with the sog, or LST your few large ones, tall plants are not the way to go with a single point of light! Unless you just like fluffy buds... lol, I smoke'm all!
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hmm. . . cmx, thx for keeping me awake, lol. was PUI (posting under the influnce) and that posts didn't sound at all like what i meant to say.
ont, when i said biggER i didn't really mean taller, i meant wider.
the second paragraph was supposed clarify that but didnt do a good job.
1)either topped and tied them to make them wide.
OR
2) scrogged them and made them wide.
in my experience, 4-6 plants should be adequate to fill up the area under a 400 w bulb, and I assume that you will continue to use dirt like your first journal, so having fewer plants makes feeding easier when using individual containers, IMO.
when i started out inside, i ran indoor soiless mix in pots, i used a 400 HPS, and I did all three, i would top and train with string to get them starting out wide at the bottom, usually 3 times. then I would install 2" string trellis about 12" above the current canopy, and spread them out under that until i was satisfied all of the trellis was pretty full any where there was intense light. then i would flower and let them run up. grows later i added a 250 w MH to try to shorten their stretch period and add a bit more light.
note:
after reading a few great journals here (420fied), i would turn to 12/12 earlier if i did it again, and let them start to flower under the trellis before i let them run up at the light.
in my next journal i am going to grow soiless mix on the half of my tent that was just storage space this run. at first i was thinking i could sog 20ish plants right from clone to 12/12 with that 400w. i could add the 250 if I wanted to as well, but right now i don't think my circuit could take it as long as i am using the AC too. but then i thought of trying to water them. for a while i was dreaming up a watering system, of course. but then reality kicked in and I cut that down to 10 bit bigger plants. now i think i want like 8 plants and will scrog them again, it should make my feedings easier. and when I have to go out of town, it will make feeding easier for someone else. also if I grow out 8 plants with the intention of scrog, i can grow them big enough for 10 clones each which would be enough to fill the wheel. while I'm waiting for my clones to root, I can scrog those 8 on the other side under 20 hours of light, and whenever I can put the clones in the volks it will go 12/12 and the game will be afoot!
so obviously i smoked before posting this too, and I am running on about my next grow. sorry. lol.
hopefully that illuminated what i meant at least.
i like less plants and top/scrog method. but its all opinion, any style can succeed very well, if cared for by an experienced hand.
ont, when i said biggER i didn't really mean taller, i meant wider.
the second paragraph was supposed clarify that but didnt do a good job.
1)either topped and tied them to make them wide.
OR
2) scrogged them and made them wide.
in my experience, 4-6 plants should be adequate to fill up the area under a 400 w bulb, and I assume that you will continue to use dirt like your first journal, so having fewer plants makes feeding easier when using individual containers, IMO.
when i started out inside, i ran indoor soiless mix in pots, i used a 400 HPS, and I did all three, i would top and train with string to get them starting out wide at the bottom, usually 3 times. then I would install 2" string trellis about 12" above the current canopy, and spread them out under that until i was satisfied all of the trellis was pretty full any where there was intense light. then i would flower and let them run up. grows later i added a 250 w MH to try to shorten their stretch period and add a bit more light.
note:
after reading a few great journals here (420fied), i would turn to 12/12 earlier if i did it again, and let them start to flower under the trellis before i let them run up at the light.
in my next journal i am going to grow soiless mix on the half of my tent that was just storage space this run. at first i was thinking i could sog 20ish plants right from clone to 12/12 with that 400w. i could add the 250 if I wanted to as well, but right now i don't think my circuit could take it as long as i am using the AC too. but then i thought of trying to water them. for a while i was dreaming up a watering system, of course. but then reality kicked in and I cut that down to 10 bit bigger plants. now i think i want like 8 plants and will scrog them again, it should make my feedings easier. and when I have to go out of town, it will make feeding easier for someone else. also if I grow out 8 plants with the intention of scrog, i can grow them big enough for 10 clones each which would be enough to fill the wheel. while I'm waiting for my clones to root, I can scrog those 8 on the other side under 20 hours of light, and whenever I can put the clones in the volks it will go 12/12 and the game will be afoot!
so obviously i smoked before posting this too, and I am running on about my next grow. sorry. lol.
hopefully that illuminated what i meant at least.
i like less plants and top/scrog method. but its all opinion, any style can succeed very well, if cared for by an experienced hand.
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about smoking,
one of my boys and I just drove home in a car for 24 hours straight (stopping for gas of course) and i haven't slept in 30+ hours. so that may be contributing to this but
i am loving this LS! after i got home and got settled, i went to my room to take a sample because i have nada! I used the microwave method that someone told me about in one of these threads. i can't remember which one. but it was WAY easier than the oven method, and more controllable and it doesn't seem to hurt the high at all.
man she is strong. 1/2 bowl and im done. i can't wait untill she is ready.
one of my boys and I just drove home in a car for 24 hours straight (stopping for gas of course) and i haven't slept in 30+ hours. so that may be contributing to this but
i am loving this LS! after i got home and got settled, i went to my room to take a sample because i have nada! I used the microwave method that someone told me about in one of these threads. i can't remember which one. but it was WAY easier than the oven method, and more controllable and it doesn't seem to hurt the high at all.
man she is strong. 1/2 bowl and im done. i can't wait untill she is ready.
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one last thing.
i broke my camera lans. not the actual lens, but some of the electronics inside. i am going to take it to a repair shop and see what they can do, but for now i am stuck with a telephoto. sorry, i will do my best to still post pics with that one for now. but not until after sleeeep.
i broke my camera lans. not the actual lens, but some of the electronics inside. i am going to take it to a repair shop and see what they can do, but for now i am stuck with a telephoto. sorry, i will do my best to still post pics with that one for now. but not until after sleeeep.
DownOver
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Wof, when you are using just a single light, do you go MH for the veg then HPS for the flowering? I have seen friends do this with their grows but I haven't really ever seen any benefit? Have you done this at all? The microwave dry is out of my thread!!! LOL
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the sun leaves 400 watt i have is switchable, and i have both bulbs. when i grew on a flat surface, i would switch back and forth between veg and flower. the benefit is that the spectrum is blue-er and supposed to keep the nodes spaced closer, and give you denser buds in the end. personally i don't think it makes a huge huge difference, but i like to try to mix the spectrums (use both at the same time) if I can so that they aren't lacking an energy level that they need. HPS is pretty red, and lacks blues. I've never used a conversion bulb that adds extra blue to an hps. this would be nice for my wheel, cmx bought a nice one. I just have a little flouro on next to my wheel, but i doubt it does much more than provide me light when i turn off my HPS for pictures. lol. but it cant hurt s its on the same timer as the hps.
well, thanks for the microwave tip, it sure came in handy when i got home and wanted a quick smoke before i took a nap. lol, but i would have been out like a light no matter what.
, i think i'll either use MH, or supplement MH while i veg the moms waiting for the clones to root. if it doesn't help, i know it doesn't hurt.
im getting close to cloning the HS for the moms to feed the hungry hungry wheelo.
well, thanks for the microwave tip, it sure came in handy when i got home and wanted a quick smoke before i took a nap. lol, but i would have been out like a light no matter what.
, i think i'll either use MH, or supplement MH while i veg the moms waiting for the clones to root. if it doesn't help, i know it doesn't hurt.
im getting close to cloning the HS for the moms to feed the hungry hungry wheelo.
i'm lookin to get a new 400 watt. my guy at my hydro shop said he'll kick me a good price on the sun leaves 400 watt. how do yoou rate it?
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here are just a few shots, best i can do with an 80mm-300mm lens, which means i have to take these shots at least 5 feet away to be able to focus. doh!
here is the midg Hindu Kush. i will take her as soon as i verify the trichs.
here are two of the bigger LS's. the first one is as big as my hand, but i cant get close enough to show you, lol.
here is the Holy Shit mom that is getting ripe enough to clone: you can see me getting ready for the next run in the background:
and here is my sunleaves switchable and some bags of dirt awaiting clones. 10 bags to be exact but i may not fill them all.
here is the midg Hindu Kush. i will take her as soon as i verify the trichs.
here are two of the bigger LS's. the first one is as big as my hand, but i cant get close enough to show you, lol.
here is the Holy Shit mom that is getting ripe enough to clone: you can see me getting ready for the next run in the background:
and here is my sunleaves switchable and some bags of dirt awaiting clones. 10 bags to be exact but i may not fill them all.
SouthernOnt
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thanks for the help man completely new to indoor except starting and cloning I'm thinking as many plants as I can in 1gallons and vegging abit then lollipoping them and keeping the bottom branches for the next run
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no prob ont.
that will work too! different strokes for different folks, any system can work well when you pour yourself into it as i'm sure you will. Can't wait to see you get started.
that will work too! different strokes for different folks, any system can work well when you pour yourself into it as i'm sure you will. Can't wait to see you get started.
SouthernOnt
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only abit longer till outdoor harvest then soon after I'll buy the light, tent, flood table, nutes, pots and a bale of promix
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