White Fly and some Spider Mites - Beginning stage flowering outdoor

[dh420]

Hi guys,

I have 3 plants that's are heavily affected by white fly. I had this issue before during the early stages of my plants and since growing outdoor I have never really gotten rid of it.

I have used neem oil and a bit heavier stuff (still organic) and got rid of most of them. however now that we are in the flowering stage things are getting worse again and I'm afraid of using these products now that buds are popping out of my babies.

Can someone help me out with some suggestions on how to handle this? Ive been doing some searching on Google but all seems to be focused on indoor growing. Options like ladiebugs and such are not really ideal for my situation.

Thanks a million

 

[dh420]

Hi guys,

I have 3 plants that's are heavily affected by white fly. I had this issue before during the early stages of my plants and since growing outdoor I have never really gotten rid of it.

I have used neem oil and a bit heavier stuff (still organic) and got rid of most of them. however now that we are in the flowering stage things are getting worse again and I'm afraid of using these products now that buds are popping out of my babies.

Can someone help me out with some suggestions on how to handle this? Ive been doing some searching on Google but all seems to be focused on indoor growing. Options like ladiebugs and such are not really ideal for my situation.

Thanks a million

 

[Chronic the Hedgehog]

I use this, never had a problem with whitefly or spider mite! See the odd fly off when spraying, I use every 3 days as a preventative measure .

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[Major PITA]

Spinosad and/or pyrethrins are my alternatives to neem. I don't find one a lot better or worse than another, both for being effective or for residue on the harvest. Rotating treatments is always a good idea, however. I'd use neem at this point, but I wash my harvest.

 

[Justones]

Is garden safe insecticidal spray soap good to use on spidermites?

 

[Major PITA]

Is garden safe insecticidal spray soap good to use on spidermites?

Dunno - never used it.
They say it works on mites, but potassium salts fatty acids makes me skeptical it will work on mites - especially if they are of the two-spotted variety.

 

[Justones]

I may have to look into something else to use then. I'm mid way into flowering now. So I need something safe. I've been thinking of buying a fogger type sprayer. I figure it would do a better job at getting all over the plant. The spray bottle method is hard to get underneath the leaves with. I've been trying to gently stroke the leaves upward with one hand while spraying with the other. Seems to work ok. But I worry about touching the flowering plant too much.

 

[Auggie]

Start an organized IPM (Integrated Pest Management) program.

Get a wall calendar, hang it in your garden. Mark the days you spray and what you spray. On Tuesday of this week spray Spinosed, on Thursday spray the same. Next week Tuesday spray Azatrol, the next Thursday spray it again with Azatrol. The week after that ... go back to Spinosed on Tuesday and Thursday. Get the pattern?

You will have to do that throughout the entire grow. Till the week before harvest.

Spider mites, like socialist Democrats, in some areas of the country are never eradicated ... just controlled.

~ Auggie ~

 

[Justones]

This was all i could find local that has spinosad as the active ingredient.

 

[Auggie]

Looks good.
That's half of your regime ...

Get some Azatrol. Not expensive. May be other brand names, but, active ingredient should be Azatrol.

Spray it right away with the Spinozad. Do it again on Tuesday or Wednesday. Be careful mixing -- too strong will kill the bugs AND your plant. Too weak makes for stronger and resistant bugs.

Don't spray in full on sunlight. Wait for near sundown.

Also: White fly is something that I usually ignore. It takes a BIG infestation to have any ill effect on a plant. Outdoors its really not a problem - and difficult to treat - and really unnecessary to treat. Some may (prolly will) disagree with this statement but, there it is.

~ Auggie ~

 

[Major PITA]

Get some Azatrol. Not expensive. May be other brand names, but, active ingredient should be Azatrol.

Azatrol and Azamax are the usual names. They are derived from neem oil. The active ingredient is azadirachtin.