So I wanted to post about my experience getting drug tested for a new job, that was VERY important for my career. In the original brochure, drug testing was mentioned as a prerequisite. The first thing I did was buy a xstream synthetic urine kit from Amazon because it had good reviews and was cheap ($13). Then, after thoroughly researching different brands and reading others' reviews countless times, I decided to purchase sub solution as well. I really liked the idea that the powder can get it heated up to temp instantly, and I had not seen any other brands that offered this. It also had what I considered to be the best reviews on several sites. Spending 75+shipping seemed expensive, but if it could guarantee that I would pass, any amount of money was worth that to me. This kit also claimed to pass the validity tests for urine (ph, specific gravity, creatinine(NOT CREATINE, these are not the same), uric acid, urea, etc).
My original plan was to quit completely, but with moving to a new state and all my other stressors, this proved too difficult to follow through with. I have been a daily smoker (multiple times a day) for 15 years...God knows how long it would have taken me to detox naturally, too long to pass! So I also had ruled out detox drinks for this same reason- they only appear to work for people who are occasional users. However, a friend used this method which I will review below for everyone's benefit.
So, the company who hired me runs a background test, which I pass, and never brings up the drug test again. So here I'm thinking, "sweet! Don't even have to worry about this!" I go in for my first day, complete all the paperwork for HR, and still no mention of the drug test. So now I'm convinced I'm Scott free. After lunch, an employee tells me to head back to HR. So I head there, to find out SURPRISE I have a drug test! And she's called the center to tell them I'll be right over. Now, I don't have either synthetic urine with me because I had gone over the options multiple times and I never expected to be asked to do it the first day. It's PRE-employment! So I shit a brick because I know my actual urine would never pass and that using an adulterant is a great way to get caught. Fortunately, I had time to run back to my house, grab the sub solution, and run back to the testing place. At my house, I read the instructions and mixed the water with the powdered urine in the container that came with it. That mixed fine with no clumping (directions said to put the powder in first I believe, so follow the directions!) I also put on a bathing suit bottom over my underwear, and put the bottle between my undies and my bathing suit bottom between my legs. I put the temperature strip away from my body, and made sure I could walk ok. My pants were fairly tight, but I couldn't change them or else that would have been a dead giveaway that I went home. I raced back to the testing center. Even without the powder to heat it up, the urine was at 94 degrees according to the bottle (checked in the parking lot). It was a hot day out (close to 100) and I was sweating bullets, so this probably helped keep it at temp. I put the heating powder in my bra, because I thought they would have me empty my pockets. Turns out, this girl leads me back to a regular bathroom (working sink, no blue coloring in the toilet) and lets me take my purse and doesn't ask for me to empty my pockets! I was dressed professionally and trying to act as nonchalant as possible. The bathroom also had a vent fan going which made me less nervous about making noise shaking up the urine. Talk about ideal conditions! I took the urine out and the temp had dropped to close to 90. I added a TINY bit of the powder since it was already so close and got it back to 94. I poured it in the cup and the temp strip on their urine specimen cup looked like it was too low (under 90). So I added more powder to the actual urine cup and swirled it around. You could instantly feel it heat up. It was back up to temp, so I put my stuff away and rushed to give it to her so it didn't lose any heat. She read the strip and checked the box that it was the right temp (between 90 and 100). It definitely looked like urine with the foam, but I didn't notice a urine smell. However, I was also freaking the fuck out so I wasn't sitting around sniffing it. She had me initial two smaller test tubes she divided it into, and threw away the rest! I was like...nooo! That's expensive urine (in my head lol)! I felt pretty good about using the fake urine- it was clearly the best alternative!
The next 10 days were hell! I kept googling online how long it takes to hear back from a drug test (my testing was not done at the collection facility, it was shipped somewhere) and I had read it could be over a week if it was positive. However, the company's website said that kind of test would take 1-3 days to get the results. The receipt I had been given identified the type of test they gave (9 panel WITHOUT ph/oxidants). I Googled the test model number to find this out. I also figured out that this meant they were only testing for the presence of drugs, not actually testing to see if the urine was real. Since most sites report that urine is only subbed/adulterated about 5% of the time, it probably wasn't worth it for my new job to shell out extra money. Not to mention they snuck it up on me! This made me feel better, for a day, but I was still really freaked out. I was waiting from an email or visit from HR saying they had to terminate me. I kept thinking "what if the lab tech suggests extra testing for validity?" Or some crazy exception along those lines. This is the downside of not just sobering up naturally! But I just had to fake it like everything was cool. Turns out most labs test up to 15000 samples a day, and some more. A person is not personally conducting each test, a computer is and a person (medical review officer) is verifying that the computer was right.
So now I feel safe to say that I have passed using SUB solution! I am probably going to buy another one to have on hand. The nice thing is that it is not premixed so you can store it anywhere. I still wonder if it truly would have passed if my company had ordered the validity tests...so I can't help anyone with that part!
Now, on to my friends experience with QCarbo32 detox drink. My other friend, John, claims he uses this drink each month to pass his drug test for his parole officer. John smokes once a day a very small amount to help keep his thc metabolites low. So I passed on this information to Val, my other friend. She is an extremely occassional smoker, but she was in Colorado 3 weeks before the test, smoking and eating edibles nonstop for 4 days. And then 3 days before her test she took ecstasy (she knew the test was coming...not the best idea!) So she follows his instructions (the same as the bottle) to drink the morning of, drink a lot of water, pee a few times and then go. She said, as others have said that her pee was neon green practically, and was still pretty bright by the time she peed for the test (hers was at quest. Mine was not at a chain). So whatever, she's done. Less than 48 hours later she hears back from the HR lady saying "we have a problem" (my nightmare!!!) And that the sample was "Too dilute" to be able to render a valid result. So, her company clearly did spring for the validity testing. The HR lady told her she had to take ANOTHER test the next morning or they wouldn't hire her.(side note: my friend Kim said that her sister had failed a drug test for the same reason even though she didn't use drugs. The people told her not to drink so much water and to be retested. So this DOES happen for legit reasons) Val had already passed home tests for thc the week before, and by this time the ecstasy was out of her system (it had been 5 full days). So I told her she should use her own piss at this point since she had been testing negative and isn't a regular user. So far, so good for her! It has been 3 days since the test and she has started work. Considering how quickly she heard back from the HR lady last time, I would say she's in the clear as well. So, my conclusion is that I would not recommend using ANY detox drink or dilution method. They can measure dilution using specific gravity AND creatinine and I don't think a cheap drink will fool machines. My buddy on parole does a test where it says on the cup if he passed or not, so he actually has easier drug tests than people just trying to secure a job! SMH. Pre-employment drug testing is illegal in canada. For a reason! They have no probable cause!
Lastly, let me add another buddy's story, my friend bob. Bob had originally recommended to me to use quick fix synthetic urine. He said that he and all his friends had used this on all their Pre-employment tests and always passed. I told him that I saw some mixed reviews online and that I wasn't considering using this. I also told him that I had seen some reviewers say it came back failed because it was detected as "non-human specimen". He insisted it worked. Well I heard from a mutual friend after telling her about my surprise drug test story, and she said that Bob's dad had lost a job offer from using quick fix! It had come back failed because it was "non-human specimen"! And this had been a really good opportunity for him. So yeah, it sounds like quick fix will NOT pass the validity tests.
I want to thank everyone brave enough to write a review about these products! The Internet has saved me again and again in this predicament, and it is because of people like you! Please, if you post asking questions or giving your own story (without the results), make sure to post what actually happened (did you pass?!). It is only fair. People took time to soothe your anxiety and answer your questions, the least you can do is return the favor. I am going to copy and paste this review onto multiple sites to help spread my experiences. So if you see it, please know it's a real review. I wouldn't have typed ALL this if it wasn't. Best of luck to my fellow stoners. Break the stereotype: get good jobs and become successful and hopefully 20 years (or sooner!) From now we can change these arcane policies. Drug tests discriminate against stoners! Don't let anyone tell you anything else. Check out California's NORML site for detailed info on drug testing, detox times, and other important info.