Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Update

Hello everyone,

i hope you have a good smoke while reading this. Personally, I´m happy with a good old strong Skunk #1 at the moment, which really honors it´s Name ;)
So, what´s going on here? Simple question, simple Answer: New Grow, New Journal! This time, i want to create something reduced to the pure Facts, something minimalistic but with all that intel you need to know exactly what is going on here. I will Document absolutely every Detail here, in Text and Picture, trying to make my grow as reproducable as possible for everyone. And Please, don´t be shy. If you are missing any kind of Information, feel free to ask for it! It would be a pleasure for me to answer your questions :circle-of-love:

Some Facts about my experience first:

- It´s my 3rd grow
- still learning while knowing nothing
- spend 4 month of reading before 1st grow
- 1st grow yielded 211g dry under 250W DS-HPS (1x Dark Devil Auto 115g & 1x Blue Dream Auto 96g)
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- 2nd grow still going (1x Dark Devil in 35l Pot, today 65 Days old)
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Let´s move on to the more interesting Part:

Setup

- 2 Closets, booth size 0,62m²
- Grow closet Lightning: 4x Osram Dulux Twist 23W 840 (1 for each Plant)
- Ventilation: simple 23 cm self-contained fan, no Carbon filter
- Flower Closet Lightning: 1x 250W GIB Lightning Flower Spectrum Pro Dual Spectrum HPS (2000K, 32,5k Lu)
- Ventilation: 30 cm self-contained fan, passive Air-intake, 250m³/h active Air-outtake with Carbon Filter
- Germinating Pots: 0,25l Plastic Pots
- Flowering Pots: 6l Superroot Airpots
- Nutes: Hesi, TNT Complex, Bloom Complex, Root Complex, PowerZyme, Phosphorus Plus, SuperVit, Boost
- Medium: Soil, CompoSana Herb and Germinating Soil, 20% Perlite


Strain Information

Ice Kush by Advanced Seeds

Kush and South African Sativa crossing. A typical Indica buds plant with a larger production because of its Sativa´s influence bigger size.
It is a fast flowering variety and has an early harvest outdoors, towards the end of September.
It is a mildew resistant plant and has a citrus and strawberry aroma.
It has a Sativa’s kind large leaves but has also thick buds and a good resin production.

Genetic: Indica / Sativa Hybrid
Yield: 350 - 450 g/m2
THC: 16%
Indoor height: 90 - 120 cm
Outdoor height: 2 - 3 m
Indoor flowering period: 7 - 8 weeks


Cream Caramel by Sweet Seeds

Cream Caramel by Sweet Seeds is mainly an Indica marijuana breed created from the popular East Indian species of BlueBlack, Maple Leaf Indica and White Rhino. After several tests and generations of selections a superb stable and productive breed has been created. This cannabis type is showing a very strong resistance to unfavourable environmental conditions.

Genetics: 90% indica / 10% sativa
Parents: BlueBlack x Maple Leaf Indica x White Rhino
Flowering Time: 8 weeks
THC: High
CBD: Medium
Yield (indoor): 500-600 g/m2
Yield (outdoor): 500-800 g/plant
Harvest Time (Outdoor): End of September
Available as: Feminized seeds

Booth is what it´s breeder tells about them :)


Day 1-3

Temp: 28-30°C, 82,4-86°F
Humidity: 60-75%
Size: germinating

Day 4

Temp: 26-28°C, 78,8-82,4°F
Humidity: 60-80%

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 1 cm
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding:none
Training: none
other: sprouted, but not able to remove Shell by itself

Cream Caramel #2

Size: 1 cm
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: sprouted, but not able to remove Shell by itself

Ice Kush #1

Size: 1 cm
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: sprouted

Ice Kush #1

Size: 1 cm
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: sprouted

Ice Kush #2

Size: 1 cm
Bulb Distance: 5cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: sprouted


Day 5

Temp: 25-27°C, 77-80,6°F
Humidity: 55-75%

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 3 cm
Bulb Distance: 3 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: still unable to remove Shell, removed it manually

Cream Caramel #2

Size: 2 cm
Bulb Distance: 4 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: still unable to remove Shell, removed it manually

Ice Kush #1

Size: 1cm cm
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other:none

Ice Kush #2

Size: 1 cm
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none


Day 6

Temp: 25-27°C, 77-80,6°F
Humidity: 60-75%

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 5,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 3 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Cream Caramel #2

Size: 3 cm
Bulb Distance: 5,5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: still slower in growth
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Ice Kush #1

Size: 5 cm
Bulb Distance: 3 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Ice Kush #2

Size: 5 cm
Bulb Distance: 3 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Day 7

Temp: 26-27°C, 78,8-80,6°F
Humidity: 50-60%

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 6 cm
Bulb Distance: 2,5 cm
Watering: yes, watered with 20% runoff
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Cream Caramel #2

Size: 3,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: yes, watered with 20% runoff
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: looking more healthy then yesterday
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Ice Kush #1

Size: 6 cm
Bulb Distance: 2,5 cm
Watering: yes, watered with 20% runoff
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Ice Kush #2

Size: 6 cm
Bulb Distance: 2,5 cm
Watering: yes, watered with 20% runoff
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Some new Toys arrived today:)

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Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Day 8

Temp: 23-27°C, 73,4-80,6°F
Humidity: 40-60%

Humidity dropped to low, wet towel was added to the closet to keep it up. Works fine.


Cream Caramel #1

Size: 6,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 2,5 cm
Watering: yes, about 200ml
Feeding: none, but added Root Complex (1,25ml/l)
Training: none
other: none
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Cream Caramel #2

Size: 5 cm
Bulb Distance: 4 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Ice Kush #1

Size: 6,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 2 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Ice Kush #2

Size:6,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 2 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Day 9

Temp: 26-28°C, 78,8-82,4°C
Humidity: 55-70%


Cream Caramel #1

Size:7 cm
Bulb Distance: 2 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: slower vertical, faster horizontal grow
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Cream Caramel #2

Size: 6 cm
Bulb Distance: 3 cm
Watering: 200 ml
Feeding: none, but added Root Complex (1,25ml/l)
Training: none
other: catching up to the other after problematic start
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Ice Kush #1

Size:6,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 2 cm
Watering: 200 ml
Feeding: none, but added Root Complex (1,25ml/l)
Training: none
other: slower vertical, faster horizontal grow
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Size:6,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 2 cm
Watering: 200 ml
Feeding: none, but added Root Complex (1,25ml/l)
Training: none
other: slower vertical, faster horizontal grow
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Day 10


Temp: 24-27°C, 75,2-80,6°F
Humidity: 40-55%

Added a wet towel to the closet to raise Humidity up again


Cream Caramel #1

Size:7 cm
Bulb Distance: 3 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Cream Caramel #2

Size:6,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 3,5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: catching up to the other
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Ice Kush #1

Size:7 cm
Bulb Distance: 3 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Ice Kush #2

Size:7 cm
Bulb Distance: 3 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Looking good man

Is this your first time using TNT nutrients ??
Good luck with your first photo grow !!!!
I'm growing skunk #1 btw
 
Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Thanks stonecutter,

no i used TNT Complex on my first Autos before. But it doesnt seem to work with autos well. With my 2nd grow i switched to BloomComplex from the beginning with them and it worked out fine. But i will use TNT Complex on these Photos, i plan a long veg with a lot LST to prepare the,m for a Screen with beginning Flower. So i think TNT could be useful because of its lower amaount of P and K.

Skunk #1, what a smell, what a taste :love:
 
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Day 11

Temp: 22-26°C, 71,6-78,8°F
Humidity: 50-65%


Cream Caramel #1

Size:7,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 6 cm
Watering: 100 ml
Feeding: none, 2,5ml/l RootComplex
Training: none
other: stem leaning to one side, fixed with Toothpick
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Cream Caramel #2

Size:7 cm
Bulb Distance: 6,5 cm
Watering: 100 ml
Feeding: none, 2,5ml/l RootComplex
Training: none
other: stem leaning to one side, fixed with Toothpick
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Ice Kush #1

Size:7,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 6 cm
Watering: 100 ml
Feeding: none, 2,5ml/l RootComplex
Training: none
other: stem leaning to one side, fixed with Toothpick
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Ice Kush #2

Size:7,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 6 cm
Watering: 100 ml
Feeding: none, 2,5ml/l RootComplex
Training: none
other: stem leaning to one side, fixed with Toothpick
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I had to fix the Stems with Toothpicks, because all 4 Ladys hanging to one side of their Pot. In my Opinion, Light Bulb was to close to the Plants, they tried to avoid heat Damage. Pictures where taken after 2 Hours of Light after fixing, and it worked out pretty well. I just have some Problems with Cream Caramel #1, look at her Leaves. Anyone have an Idea?
 
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Day 12


Temp: 22-26°C, 71,6-78,8°F
Humidity: 45-65%


Cream Caramel #1

Size:2,5 cm (after transplant)
Bulb Distance: 30 cm ( less intense light after transplant)
Watering: 2000 ml
Feeding: 1 drop Supervit/5000ml, 2,5ml/l RootComplex
Training: none
other: Transplanted in 6l Air-Pot, new Soil: CompoSana Universal Potting Soil
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Cream Caramel #2

Size:8 cm
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none ( I want dry Soil to transplant on Day 13)
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Ice Kush #1

Size:8 cm
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none ( I want dry Soil to transplant on Day 13)
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Ice Kush #2

Size:8 cm
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none ( I want dry Soil to transplant on Day 13)
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Pot preparation for transplanting

Step 1:
Put a ground layer of Hydro-Clay at the bottom of the Pot, i used 4-8mm granulation here
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Step 2:
Wash everything with clear Water. There will be a lot of Dust in your pots now. we don´t want this in here
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Step 3:
Fill your Pots up with Soil. There are a lot of buckets in Air-Pots, make sure to fill them all up properly. Otherwise your Air-Pot will not work as intended.
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Day 13


Temp: 22,9-26,4°C, 73,2-79,5°F
Humidity: 45-65%


Today i had to transplant the other 3 Ladys, so i prepared everything i needed for it.
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I made sure absolutely everything was there ;)
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I took the Hydro Clay and then washed it first to remove all of the Dust on it.
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Then i put on some gloves and grabbed the Plant like this...
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... and then turned it arround
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After that, it was easy to remove the old Pot. I checked the Roots and everything was fine
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Now i had to put the Plant into her new Pot...
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...and fill it up with Soil
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To make watering more easy i put a final layer of Hydro Clay on top of the Pot
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At the end i just watered my Ladys carefully and slowly, to make sure that all the soil is moist. I used a solution with 2 drops Supervit and 25 ml RootComplex at 10l of Water
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Cream Caramel #1

Size:3 cm (after transplant)
Bulb Distance: 15 cm ( less intense light after transplant)
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Cream Caramel #2

Size:3 cm (after transplant)
Bulb Distance: 15 cm ( less intense light after transplant)
Watering: 2000 ml
Feeding: 2 drops Supervit/10l, 2,5ml/l RootComplex
Training: none
other: Transplanted in 6l Air-Pot, new Soil: CompoSana Universal Potting Soil
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Ice Kush #1

Size:3 cm (after transplant)
Bulb Distance: 15 cm ( less intense light after transplant)
Watering: 2000 ml
Feeding: 2 drops Supervit/10l, 2,5ml/l RootComplex
Training: none
other: Transplanted in 6l Air-Pot, new Soil: CompoSana Universal Potting Soil
ik1_1304.jpg



Ice Kush #2

Size:3 cm (after transplant)
Bulb Distance: 15 cm ( less intense light after transplant)
Watering: 2000 ml
Feeding: 2 drops Supervit/10l, 2,5ml/l RootComplex
Training: none
other: Transplanted in 6l Air-Pot, new Soil: CompoSana Universal Potting Soil
ik2_1304.jpg
 
Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Are you gonna keep the girls in those pots for the rest of the grow? Just curious cause it looks like it could be a pain in the ass to try and get them out of there if you needed to transplant again. Sorry, I always look at things like that. (though I dig those pots, very cool looking)
 
Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

I´m gonna keep these girls into this pots. But if i decide to move to bigger Pots for whatever reason, it would be absolutly simple and easy to transplant with this Pots. Here is a quick Video i found on Youtube to explain :)

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Day 14


Temps: 22,3-26,9°C, 72,1-80,4°F
Humidity: 45-65%


Cream Caramel #1

Size:3,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: still looking sick, but it is growing
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Cream Caramel #2

Size:4 cm
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Ice Kush #1

Size: 4 cm
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Ice Kush #2

Size:3,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 10,5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Very cool man. Never seen them before. How many gallons or liters are they?
 
Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

It´s a 6 liter or 1.59 gal Pot. Good thing about this Pot is, that it´s extremely good for root buildup. There will never be any root cycling in this kind of pot.
 
Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

How do you think they compare to fiber-pots/smart pots?

I do think that they compare about the same. Booth are working with Air-Proning, what means that when the Roots grow out of its Container, they come in contact with Air, causing the Root to die back, causing the plant to build a massive amount of new roots.


Day 15


Temp: 20,1-25-9°F
Humidity: 45-55%


Cream Caramel #1

Size:4 cm
Bulb Distance: 8 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: still looking sick, but it is growing
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Cream Caramel #2

Size:4,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 7,5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other:none
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Ice Kush #1

Size:6 cm
Bulb Distance: 6 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: very healthy, rapid growth compared to the other
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Ice Kush #2

Size:5 cm
Bulb Distance: 7 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Day 16


Temp: 20,1- 25,7°C, 68,2-78,3°F
Humidity: 50-70%


Cream Caramel #1

Size:6 cm
Bulb Distance: 6 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: looking sicker, growing more
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Cream Cramel #2

Size:7 cm
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Ice Kush #1

Size: 10 cm
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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Ice Kush #2

Size:7.5 cm
Bulb Distance: 4,5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none
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