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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    ^This is some plant 911 Emergency shit here huh...

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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    Are you diluting the silicate into a container of water before adding it to the nutrient? If not you could be making a toxic mess that the plant can't uptake. Silicate needs to be diluted into a container of water 10 times the amount of the silicate.
    The silicate I use calls for 3 mil per gallon. I mix it with 30 mil or more of water in a seperate cup. I then measure my nutrients into my watering can. I add the water to the measured out nutes and just before the water reaches the gallon mark I add the diluted silicate to the mixture and stir well then feed the plants.
    Your bottle of silicate should tell you how to use it. Mine says to add to the silicate the final nutrient soltion and never to add to the nutrient concentrate but I've always diluted it in it's own water before adding at all. Better safe than sorry.

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    Like Moose said, your watering cycle seems to be very off. My guess is the soil is not draining well enough to correspond with the short intervals you are watering at. Some extra perlite mixed into the soil from the start could have prevented this problem. Watering to the point where water exits the bottom of the pot is fine as long as the drainage is adequate enough to not allow the soil to turn to the consistency of mud when doing so.

    Racefan has also made an excellent point. Do not exceed the manufacturers recommended rate of application unless you are entirely certain of what you are doing. I would have gone with something more simple then potassium silicate for a basic soil grow like this. Soil, water, and a couple of Fox Farms ferts. should be all you need. No reason to make things more complex then necessary.

    Aggressive feeding must be done with care. Plants are very much like humans in the regards that they can only eat so much. If you were to force feed yourself massive amounts of food everyday you would eventually get sick as well. The same is true of plants, they can only absorb and process nutrients so fast and a excess build-up of them can become toxic.

    I recommend laying off the nutrinets for a while, reducing watering to every 3days, and doing a soil pH test.
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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    the ph has always been about 6 i check it every day. i usually water them when they get dry and start to wilt it takes only a day because its hot as hell in here sometimes it takes 2 days but usually not more then 3 to dry out and start to wilt. but i'll go back to plain water for awhile and hopefully they'll get better. i think why the taller buds are wilting down tho is cause there growing up past the light bulb and not getting as much light as the lower ones or so i might think. i moved all the big buds up against the walls so that they had somthing to lean up against and grow and the little ones could get much more light and grow a bunch more in the middle. no racefan i just dump the stuff into an almost full gallon of water and cap it and shake it up for a few minuts then dump it on the plants. it calls for 1 table spoon i usually add a cap full wich is about a half a table spoon it has a small cap. the other 5-15-5 plant food calls for 3 table spoons i still add a cap full of that and its about the same size. i havent givin them very much food at all just a couple caps full of each every 2 or 3 waterings but i'll go back to straight water cause thats seems to be what works best for me the well water here is fulla cow shit so i guess there gettin plenty of food n metals n a little bit o rust lol. thanks all of you you guys are awesome my plants would of died along time ago without the info you givin me and the info i've read on here thanks again.

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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    I'm not a dirt guy.. but I think what these guy's want to happen is a flush... I could be wrong and if I am I hope some one says so. Soil holds on to nutes (finally added "nutes" to dictionary.. I'm so proud) like no ones business. The problem is your plants take only what they need and leave the rest (optimally). If you've been feeding them too much, or too often, you can get a large build up of unwanted nutrients. Your plant can burn.. be exposed to too much of a particular nute, or as is common be nute locked and not receive what it needs. Roots take in material through osmosis. On a molecular level, too much of a nutrient build up can block other nutrients from reaching the permeable membrane, and feeding the plants. They starve.

    Soil starts with nutrient value... and you've been adding a lot (over time). By hitting it with clean water you hope to "flush" this build up away. Allowing you to get on a proper feeding and water schedule (think reset button), and maximize potential... get these girls fat so they can sing!

    Or I could just be really medicated ...

    Either way listen to these guys... I guarantee they all wanna see good things come yer way.

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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    yea there gettin dry now and standing up a bit. the dirts dry on the top now a couple inches down and the moisture meter says a 3 out of 10 ph is about a 7 little below n the light meter is off the charts lolz should i let em dry completly out before givin em some water again cause there almost there n its about half way thru the day

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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    ok so i let em get so dry they started falling over on eachother so i gave them some water just now and i'll post a couple more pics in an hour or 2 when they've perked back up and see what u guys think




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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    It will take up to a week for you to notice any significant improvement

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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    i usually notice a difference in the leaves a couple hours after watering them the camera doesnt show it but you cant lie to the eyes. i'm sure it'll take a couple few days tho to reach the peak of growing again but ive already noticed the leaves just start to perk back up and straighten out flat again on some of em. i just gotta get this bigass bud in the middle to straighten back up. i almost wanna tie it up against the wall so it doesnt fall over again. what do u guys think ?

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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    Try to get yr growroom as optimal as possible, and stick to the wet dry cycle

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    Get some bamboo sticks from yr local garden center and fix them straight with some ties

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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    i got some wooden dowels and leaned them up on it for now. i gotta put the light a little higher or as high as i can get it for em there gettin pretty tall now and the tops just under the bulb are burning but the ones all around the walls are growing nicely and lookin good.

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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zenmaster View Post
    ...i gotta put the light a little higher or as high as i can get it for em there gettin pretty tall now and the tops just under the bulb are burning but the ones all around the walls are growing nicely and lookin good.
    Yes, do that ASAP. The last photo you posted shows tops that are absolutely fried.
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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    I don't now if I would move the light,
    I know I would bend those two tallest(mo' fired lookin')
    over so they are the same height as the others.

    The others look good
    so instead of movin' the light and throwing them off,
    bend the tall ones over

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    Re: what can i do to make these buds better ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaMagoMan View Post
    I don't now if I would move the light,
    I know I would bend those two tallest(mo' fired lookin')
    over so they are the same height as the others.

    The others look good
    so instead of movin' the light and throwing them off,
    bend the tall ones over
    Good idea. All I am saying is do something because those tops are cooked.
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