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    Bill C-45 – Canada’s Legalization – The Drama Revs Up

    As the process of legalization of cannabis finally starts to shift into gear, I thought a thread of relevant info might be interesting to some. I will update as time allows. But please help . . .

    To read the bill as it stands:

    Bill C-45

    An Act respecting cannabis and to amend the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, the Criminal Code and other Acts

    Short Title: Cannabis Act

    As the public hearings process starts next week, here are snippets from some of the submissions to the HESA - Standing Committee on Health. They will listen to experts etc & then (after 5 days or so) forward any recommendations to the legislature.

    Reading through the positions is interesting because each party has their own vested interests. Some will be adopted & some won’t make it. At this point, it seems as if JT & the Feds want to quickly pass it & throw it to the provinces. That way they will live up to their promise & the buck will pass so the provinces get blamed for the inevitable delays.

    Aurora Cannabis:
    • We would urge the Federal government to consider including the following products singularly or in a wider class on the schedule: Concentrates (Previously classed as resins ie: hashish), Vape Liquids, Topicals & Creams, Edibles, Drinks, & Food products.


    Canadian Cancer Society:
    • Minimum age 21.
    • Smoking & vaping should be banned everywhere smoking tobacco is banned.


    Aphria:
    • recommends that the Government of Canada introduce a strict product-testing regime, similar to regimes currently operable in the pharmaceutical industry. The costs associated with the new regime should be funded by the industry.
    • recommends that the Government of Canada allow for the continued operation of the current medical cannabis program.
    • recommends that the Government of Canada allow for the distribution of medical and recreational cannabis through pharmacies.


    Arthritis Society:
    • Enable pharmacy distribution: Pharmacies should have exclusive authority to retail medical cannabis.
    • Remove sales tax for medical cannabis.
    • Facilitate insurance coverage.


    Green Organic Dutchman (New LP with small multiple-strain grows – not retail yet)
    • information such as company name, strain name, price, amounts of THC and CBS and warnings and other labeling requirements, should be the only material included on packaging and labelling.
    • In our view, adopting such a restrictive approach to labeling will not serve Canadians well. We must be mindful that many Canadians are not well-informed about cannabis, and the variety of products which will soon be available to them. (All of the LPs also addressed this same point about packaging & advertising)


    C.D. Howe Institute:
    • To ensure that the black market is effectively minimized, the federal tax rate should not exceed the current GST rate (5 percent). Assuming a pre-tax price of $7.50 per gram, a 5 percent sales tax results in about 88 percent of the market shifting to legal consumption and $216 million in federal tax revenues


    Drug Free Kids Canada:
    • public consumption to be prohibited, more than for tobacco and alcohol, including significant penalties for public consumption
    • edible product should not be permitted, unless there are strict controls on production (THC levels), plus childproof packaging
    • explicit product liability legislation for marijuana, placing product health impact liability on producers and distributors of marijuana


    Tilray:
    • While the federal Taskforce on Cannabis Legalization & Regulation endorsed treating recreational and medical cannabis under the same taxation regime, we strongly oppose such a policy as it unduly burdens medical cannabis patients and could inadvertently incentivize these patients to choose recreational cannabis.
    • should encourage Health Canada to expand the current 30mg/mL THC cap for cannabis oils in certain circumstances. Such a move would allow for an expanded product line – such as vaporizer oils – to better serve medical cannabis patients with a variety of conditions.
    • Mail delivery should remain an option for patients and made available to recreational consumers. Providing the option of mail-order for recreational consumers as a parallel path to brick-and-mortar private retail outlets will ensure consistent supply to consumers across Canada while physical distribution systems are put in place.


    A total of 75 submissions will be considered.

    Note: There is a parellel bill that will deal with the changes to the Criminal Code: See Bill C-46
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    Re: Bill C-45 – Canada’s Legalization – The Drama Revs Up

    This morning the Minister of Health & the Minister of Finance will be presenting Ontario's plan for legalization starting at 11:15am. This is the first official announcement from any province.

    This should answer some of the who/how/when questions.
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    Re: Bill C-45 – Canada’s Legalization – The Drama Revs Up

    It's official . . . in Ontario . . .

    • Stand alone LCBO-style stores - up to 80 stores by end of 1st year (150 by 2020)
    • LCBO will run an online store that will open when Federal legalization occurs
    • Licensed producers will be the only source
    • Minimum age 19 years of age
    • Existing illegal dispensaries will be shut
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    Re: Bill C-45 – Canada’s Legalization – The Drama Revs Up

    Here is the official press release from the Ontario Ministry of Finance.

    Ontario's Cannabis Retail and Distribution Model

    Now we shall see what the Fed & the other provinces come up with. Ron Strider posted a good update on the rest of Canada in International Cannabis News . . .

    Canada: Details Of How The Provinces & Territories Stand On Looming Pot Legalization
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    Re: Bill C-45 – Canada’s Legalization – The Drama Revs Up

    So the Federal Health hearings are in full swing.

    First Day Headline:

    Canada: Legalizing Marijuana Won't Extinguish Black Market, House Committee Hears (Posted in News)

    2nd Day Headlines:

    Police Ask Canada Government To Postpone Legal Marijuana (Posted in News)

    Canada Wants To Sell You "Marijuana Candies" Next Year (Posted in News)

    And locally in Toronto . . . the Police get frisky.

    Police charge 15 with drug offences after raid at Kensington Market pot shop
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    Re: Bill C-45 – Canada’s Legalization – The Drama Revs Up

    Despite yesterday's police appeal to slow down . . .


    Third Day of Hearings Headline:

    MPs urged to push forward with legal cannabis despite calls to slow down CBC News

    and from the same article . . .

    "Earlier today, Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said the government was sticking to its timetable to legalize cannabis by July 1, 2018."

    and . . .

    "Christina Grant of the Canadian Paediatric Society . . . said aligning the legal age for cannabis with other legally controlled substances would help ensure youth have access to a regulated product with a known potency. Grant did, however, advocate the government only make lower potency cannabis available to those under 25."
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    They are going to mess the whole legalization thing up so badly!

    Going to stay in the medical system myself.
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    What bothers me is that they are listening to companies that already have the edge in legal marketplace because of the funds & connections they possess. LPs are overcharging for cannabis because they can and they're reinvesting in growing their businesses here and abroad off the dollars of medical patients. I'm staying medical too because at least growing it myself won't expose me to pesticides or chemicals and cost me a whole hell of a lot less. 4 plants for non med is a joke.
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    Re: Bill C-45 – Canada’s Legalization – The Drama Revs Up

    Well, the dramatic headlines from the hearings have died down after the first few days.

    Today: Davies calls for extension of Cannabis Act hearings (I won't link because it is a competitor site)

    "NDP Health Critic and Health Committee Vice Chair Don Davies put forward a motion today during the committee hearing to add two more days of hearings to hear from licensed producers, dispensary owners, edibles manufactures, and youth stakeholders."

    "The committee is expected to hear from more speakers next week. Ministers of Health, Justice, Public Safety are scheduled to present Tuesday, September 19th."
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    I guess we know where New Brunswickers are going to get their supply . . .

    New Brunswick signs multi-million dollar deal with licensed cannabis producers

    (Organigram is out of Moncton & Canopy is building a site in Fredericton)
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    Not sure why they would choose Organigram when they are currently under a class action lawsuit. 11 months of dangerous/poisoned cannabis and they still are allowed to operate!
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    Just one scary bit of news gleaned from a hearing's wrap-up by Jeffrey Lizotte (a lobbyist). Published in a competitor (Lift) so I won't post a link.

    "On Friday we heard whispers that Quebec plans to prohibit home cultivation. So this might be another decision the federal government punts to provinces to decide."
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    Week Ending Sept 22 . . .

    Nothing really new this week other than talk & rumours. Still no word from any other provinces about their plans although New Brunswick looks like it is leaning to the same gov’t store scenario that Ontario floated.

    Ontario has mentioned a proposed price: $10 per gram. This is coming in higher than the average street price of $8.64. See the article The Average Cost Of Marijuana Across Canada in International News posted by Ron. Quebec meanwhile floated $8 - $9 per gram but mentioned that Ontario’s price would be a factor. The cabinets from both provinces were meeting today.

    And . . . the police raided another dispensary in London Ontario . . .
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    OK. This is what we have been waiting to hear:

    "The committee (Standing Committee of Health) will soon begin its clause-by-clause review of the legislation. During this final portion of the review, all parties, including independent Members of Parliament, can submit amendments to the bill that the standing committee on health will then vote on. If the health committee reports the bill back to the House of Commons, it will go before Parliament for further debate and a third vote. If the House of Commons votes in favour of the legislation then it will be submitted to the Senate for further debate, review and voting." Winnipeg Free Press

    "No date is set and report stage is likely to not occur until after the Thanksgiving break. The House is sitting for eight full weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas." Lift
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    And the big news yesterday from the BC Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General Mike Farnworth about their plans for the province:

    "We have not landed on any decision around the distribution model, we have not landed on any decisions on the retail model, because I've made it clear, there's different opinions in different parts of the province."

    Blah, blah, blah . . . they have still not decided . . .
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