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    Re: Scientific's Hydro Dwarf Low Flyer 24/7 Illumination Fireplace Grow Journal - 201

    Day 81 -- Post-processing continued: Water curing

    I'm water curing one bud.


    The candidate, freshly trimmed


    Full immersion baptism


    After 24 hours in the fridge

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    Re: Scientific's Hydro Dwarf Low Flyer 24/7 Illumination Fireplace Grow Journal - 201

    Day 81 -- Post-processing continued: Tincture/Rick Simpson Oil & Coconut-Cannabis Oil


    Dried buds


    Dried sugar leaves


    Dried leaves go in the blender for their first grind See the kief?


    Ground leaves


    Sticky mess, but 190-proof alcohol will clean it all up.


    Ground buds and ground leaves go in the oven at 220F for 100 minutes of decarboxylation It smelled sweet (!?)


    Decarboxylated buds are a little browner than when they went in (compare to shot above)

    COCONUT-CANNABIS OIL

    Coconut oil is a solid at room temperature and tastes sweet and smells like a Mounds bar! Yummy!


    Decarbed leaves are ground a second time then go into one cup of coconut oil


    Extraction in coconut oil is supposed to take about three hours.

    TINCTURE

    A pint of 190-proof solvent costs $18 US(!) but it works much better than using half-water 100-proof. Assuming the buds have 10% THC, this will make 10 mg/ml tincture. (If you evaporate/boil off the alcohol, you have Rick Simpson oil, but I like tinctures--I swear the high is more cerebral than anything else.)


    1 cup of 190-proof alcohol and 46 grams of bud go in the fridge for extraction. Last time I only extracted for about five days, and a second alcohol "wash" extracted a significant amount of THC, so this time I'm going to let it sit for a long time.

    Also, the last time I did this, I used premium Blue Dream buds, and the color was a beautiful, deep red-brown (the color of high-purity cannabis oil). This batch is a deep green, which suggests much lower THC content. (The Blue Dream buds were about 20% THC, and CropKing says that Dwarf Low Flyer is about 10% THC.)

    The equipment is all stripped down and put away and the plant material is all in containers, so now I can open up the windows again!

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    Re: Scientific's Hydro Dwarf Low Flyer 24/7 Illumination Fireplace Grow Journal - 201

    Day 83 - Titrating the Dosage

    I infused one cup of coconut oil with 40 grams of ground, decarboxylated sugar leaves.
    Assuming those leaves were 5% THC, that's 2000 milligrams THC in 237 ml coconut oil so about 8 mg THC / milliliter, aiming for the familiar 10 mg / dose maximum used in Washington state (i.e. 10 mg/ml).

    Testing the coconut oil
    Coconut oil weighs .92 g/ml, so I weighed out .92 grams and took that on a full stomach. Nothing.
    An hour later I took another 1 ml. Maybe something?
    Another hour later I took another 1 ml.
    Apparently the big meal and/or dissolving the THC in oil rather than the alcohol I am more familiar with slowed down absorption a lot, because it wasn't until five hours from taking the first dose that all three doses ganged up on me and sent me to bed very high. Oops. All in the name of science.
    So anyway... it looks like I guessed about right on the dosage. Coconut oil smells and tastes great, so I agree that it's a great choice for an oil extraction. Now that I know the concentration, I may put it in gelatin capsules.


    Coconut-cannabis oil after the solids were filtered out with a metal strainer. It's still liquid because it's still warm.


    Coconut-cannabis oil is a solid at room temperature. This is about one dose.


    One, 1-ml dose of warm (liquid) coconut-cannabis oil.


    My fridge seems to have a cannabis shelf now.

    Left to right:
    • Solids left over from alcohol (tincture) extraction and cannabis oil extraction in about 3/8 cup 190 proof alcohol. In my experience, this "second wash" gets enough remaining THC to be worthwhile.
    • Bud on its last day of "water curing." (Note that it sank last night.)
    • Coconut-cannabis oil
    • Alcohol tincture. Assuming 10% THC in the buds (what CropKing predicts), 46 grams of buds gives 4600 milligrams of THC. 46 grams THC in 1 c (237 ml) gives 19 milligrams per ml. I said in the previous post that it didn't have the distinctive red-brown color of concentrated tincture, but now it does.
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    Re: Scientific's Hydro Dwarf Low Flyer 24/7 Illumination Fireplace Grow Journal - 201

    What a great read Sci! I'm so glad you were as detailed as you were. Well written and a thoroughly fleshed out science experiment.

    I learned a good deal reading it. I'm particularly interested in the ph phenomenon. The two part ph article you linked to was extremely enlightening. When I was in vegetation in my grow, I had to continually lower the ph. Now in flower, I'm finding I'm using a lot of ph up. I also understand that the plant uses more N during veg, and more K during flower. According to that article, the ph drift that I'm seeing, in veg and in flower, is exactly relative to which nute is being more heavily consumed. A plant consuming N will tend to raise the ph and a plant consuming K will lower the ph.

    I also wondered, during the phase of your grow where the ph kept dropping radically overnight, whether there was root rot happening --as you know, this also creates an acidic environment. But, lo and behold, looking at your pics of the roots, there couldn't have been any rot happening. The roots are beautiful!

    At any rate, the big message in that article for me, was "don't f%$^k around so much with the ph!"

    Thanks for an entertaining and informative journal!
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    Re: Scientific's Hydro Dwarf Low Flyer 24/7 Illumination Fireplace Grow Journal - 201

    Quote Originally Posted by eggzin View Post
    I'm particularly interested in the ph phenomenon. The two part ph article you linked to was extremely enlightening. When I was in vegetation in my grow, I had to continually lower the ph. Now in flower, I'm finding I'm using a lot of ph up. I also understand that the plant uses more N during veg, and more K during flower. According to that article, the ph drift that I'm seeing, in veg and in flower, is exactly relative to which nute is being more heavily consumed. A plant consuming N will tend to raise the ph and a plant consuming K will lower the ph.
    Thanks for kind words, eggz. I have enjoyed following your grow as well.

    pH
    The pH variations were, as you could see, the biggest mystery in the process. Before I do another hydro grow I'd like to read a college-level text about hydroponics to see if it can help me to understand just what the hell is going on in the reservoir. One thing's for sure, though: hydroponics definitely gives big yields!

    Applying hydroponic lessons learned to tomatoes
    I tested the pH and PPM of the watering runoff of two potted tomatoes growing on my deck. One was at pH 7.5 and 1,200 PPM(!), the other at pH 5.0 and 400 PPM. I'm going to use my newly improved horticulture skilz (and new pH pen and PPM meter) to adjust the growing conditions of both, which I'm confident will be a big help. In fact, like I'm sure many people, I'm looking at all my plants now with a much more critical and informed eye.

    Rootz
    The roots are beautiful!
    Thanks! Grow guru Nebula Haze is a big, big advocate of Hydroguard bacillus culture, so despite my belief that you don't need a lot more than just N, P, K, and micronutrients, I went ahead and got a bottle. As I noted in the log, we had a stretch of hot weather in which my reservoir got up to as high as 92 F and spent weeks in the high 80s, yet the roots did just fine. I suspect that dosing that tank every week with beneficial bacteria really helped. (That and two pumps and an airstone to keep things swirling plus dutifully refreshing the media every week...)

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    Re: Scientific's Hydro Dwarf Low Flyer 24/7 Illumination Fireplace Grow Journal - 201

    Quote Originally Posted by Scientific View Post
    my newly improved horticulture skilz...
    Beautiful!


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    Rootz

    Thanks! Grow guru Nebula Haze is a big, big advocate of Hydroguard bacillus culture, so despite my belief that you don't need a lot more than just N, P, K, and micronutrients, I went ahead and got a bottle. As I noted in the log, we had a stretch of hot weather in which my reservoir got up to as high as 92 F and spent weeks in the high 80s, yet the roots did just fine. I suspect that dosing that tank every week with beneficial bacteria really helped. (That and two pumps and an airstone to keep things swirling plus dutifully refreshing the media every week...)
    I agree, GWE is a good resource.

    As for root care, I've read a lot of good things about z7, also.

    As you learn more about hydroponics, I'm sure you'll share ...right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eggzin View Post
    As you learn more about hydroponics, I'm sure you'll share ...right?
    For whatever it may be worth, yeah.

    I have a little plant growing in coco coir right now. It's really interesting using hydroponics techniques on a plant in a pot. Fun! (The hydroton layer is an attempt to keep bugs out of the coir.)

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    This grow is done!

    All the post-processing for this grow is done.

    • The 195-proof alcohol tincture made from the buds has about 20 mg of THC per ml. An hour after taking 25 drops on an empty stomach, a walk in the park is a little more interesting.
    • I used a syringe to fill 186 "00"-size gelatin capsules with the coconut-cannabis oil made from the sugar leaves. One cap is a very mild dose (about 7.5 mg THC). Two is stonier. Three start to get your attention.
    • The 195-proof "second wash" of the solids strained from the tincture and coconut oil extractions is soaking in the fridge. Someday I will strain it and boil it down into Rick Simpson oil.
    • The three biggest buds are in jars on their second week of curing.


    25-drop, 10 mg dose of 195-proof tincture. I keep the bottle in the freezer because the high-proof alcohol really wants to evaporate (which just makes the tincture more concentrated). 195-proof alcohol is so runny that it will go right past the rubber seals of the dropper bottles if they are turned on their sides. High-proof alcohol is great solvent, but it's expensive and hard to contain, so for edibles I have definitely switched over to coconut oil extraction.


    186 00-size gelatin capsules. Each capsule holds 0.75 gram of oil so has about 7.5 mg THC each.

    Pot is legal here, but it can be kind of expensive--especially edibles. At retail prices, this one dwarf plant produced over $1000 US worth of cannabis products, and it was a really fun and interesting project. Another Dwarf Low Flyer is growing in two gallons of coco coir under lights on the windowsill, waiting for summer sunshine to arrive.

    So that's if for this grow! Thanks for following along!
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    Re: Scientific's Hydro Dwarf Low Flyer 24/7 Illumination Fireplace Grow Journal - 201

    Hope all is well in your world.

    Thanks for sharing this grow with us.

    Please head over to the 420 Strain Reviews forum and post your smoke report there too.

    I’m moving this to Completed Journals now.

    Have you started a new grow you would like to share with us?

    If so, please feel free to start a new journal here: Journals in Progress

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    Amazing tutorial! Just wondering if you used all those roots for anything. I have read that cannabis roots, while not containing THC or CBD, have therapeutic properties of their own. I plan on drying and grinding mine and making something out of them, maybe a skin lotion or something.
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    Re: Scientific's Hydro Dwarf Low Flyer 24/7 Illumination Fireplace Grow Journal - 201

    Quote Originally Posted by InTheShed View Post
    Amazing tutorial! Just wondering if you used all those roots for anything. I have read that cannabis roots, while not containing THC or CBD, have therapeutic properties of their own. I plan on drying and grinding mine and making something out of them, maybe a skin lotion or something.
    Thanks!

    I was struck how much the roots looked exactly like a shirt that I own that was woven from hemp fiber. I'm afraid the bottom half of the plant went in the dumpster, but the top half has been put to good use.

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