Five's Auto Garden - Bloody Skunk Auto & Big Devil Auto

[FiveToMidnight]

Back again with a new batch of autos
I was lucky enough to be picked as a winner of a competition run by the good people at The Vault Seed Store and was gifted 20 free seeds from Sweet Seeds as the prize. Out of the selection I picked Big Devil Auto and Bloody Skunk Auto for this round as they have some nice reviews and I've been looking forward to growing a purple plant


Details:
What strain is it? 1x Sweet Seeds - Bloody Skunk Auto + 1x Sweet Seeds - Big Devil Auto
Is it Indica, Sativa or Hybrid? Both Hybrid
Is it in Veg or Flower stage? Seedling
Indoor or outdoor? Indoor
Soil or Hydro? 75% Coco/25% Perlite
Size of light? 2x Mars ProII Epistar 160's
Is it aircooled? 2x 4" Passive intakes + 6" Inline Duct Fan + 6" Carbon Filter
Temp of Room/cab? Between 20-38 Celcius (Depending on season)
RH of Room/cab? Between 50%-75%
How often are you watering? Every 2-3 days or as needed
Type and strength of ferts used? Canna Coco A+B + Silica + Seasol+Cannazym+PK 13/14+Sensi Bio Diesel.


I will, as always, include the nutrient schedule I am using for anyone interested. It was created by a user called Buzzo and if you google his name with autoflower you will find his journal. I have added in Silica as I believe it helps with the high temps that I often have and I also have swapped Canna Boost for Sensi Bio Diesel due to the outrageous cost of Boost. I haven't seen a major difference, if anything I have had better results with the Bio Diesel.

Day 1 to Day 14/Week 1 - 2
Canna Coco A & B 0.5 ml per liter if using Worm Casting at 50% or 1 ml per liter if using WC @ 30% or less
Seasol 4ml per liter
Silica 0.25ml per liter
Total E.C. approx 0.4 to 0.7

Day 14 to Day 28/Week 3-4
Canna Coco A & B 1.5 to 2 ml per liter
Seasol 4ml per liter
Cannazym 2.5 ml per liter
Silica 0.5ml per liter
Total E.C. approx 1.0 to 1.3

Day 28 to DAY 35/Week 5
Canna Coco A & B 2.0 to 2.5 ml per liter
Seasol 4 ml per liter
Cannazym 2.5 ml per liter
PK 13/14 1.5 ml per liter (Not recommended to use this for more than 1 week)
Boost 2.0 to 2.5 ml per liter
Silica 1ml per liter
Total E.C. approx 1.8

Day 35 to Day 53/Week 6-7.5
Canna Coco A & B 2.0 to 2.5 ml per liter
Seasol 2 ml per liter
Cannazym 2.5 ml per liter
Boost 3 to 4 ml per liter
Silica 1ml per liter
Total E.C. approx 1.5

Day 53 to Day 60/Week 8.5-9.5
Cannazym 2.5 ml per liter
Total E.C approx 0.2




So plants have sprouted and have been above ground for 5 days now. They're still both looking a bit small but I expect them to start getting a lot bigger in the coming week.
I'm planning to top these girls as I always do with some light LST to really try and use up all the space in the cabinet. These are the first girls that have had the whole cabinet to themselves from the very start to I really want to try and utilise all the space I can.
So far they have only been fed Week 1 from the schedule above as a pre charge in the coco before planting. I like to wait for the coco to dry a bit before feeding more which normally takes about 7 days

 

[el m80]

rite on 5. ^5.

 

[Mars Hydro]

nice job,i will follow your growing.front seat please

 

[FiveToMidnight]

nice job,i will follow your growing.front seat please

You're always welcome Sara!
You get a chance to really see what the Epistar 160's can do

 

[Skybound]

Subbed!

 

[FiveToMidnight]

Update:

Girls are 8 days old now but still looking a little small for what I would expect. The coco was pre charged with Week 1 feed as I did last time but the plants aren't springing up anywhere near as much as the last two did.
Hoping there is nothing wrong as they seem to look ok other than that. Would love some opinions though, let me know what you think!

 

[Skybound]

I have a theory. It's my understanding that fresh rooted seedlings needs the media to really begin to dry to coax the roots to grow faster, however, if the media is too plentiful for the size of the plant, it will stay moist for longer and the plant will just grow a little slower. When growing in rock wool, it's no biggie to transplant frequently due to minimal to zero transplant shock. This enables the grower to start with a very small pot (like a solo cup) and gradually increase pot sizes to control root growth. I don't know if these techniques can be applied to coco though, but if TP shock isn't something coco growers deal with, I suggest next run starting in a much smaller pot.

 

[FiveToMidnight]

I have a theory. It's my understanding that fresh rooted seedlings needs the media to really begin to dry to coax the roots to grow faster, however, if the media is too plentiful for the size of the plant, it will stay moist for longer and the plant will just grow a little slower. When growing in rock wool, it's no biggie to transplant frequently due to minimal to zero transplant shock. This enables the grower to start with a very small pot (like a solo cup) and gradually increase pot sizes to control root growth. I don't know if these techniques can be applied to coco though, but if TP shock isn't something coco growers deal with, I suggest next run starting in a much smaller pot.

Thanks Sky, that's a good point. I may give that a go next round, I've just not had a problem the last couple of runs

 

[Bill the Cat]

Update:

Girls are 8 days old now but still looking a little small for what I would expect. The coco was pre charged with Week 1 feed as I did last time but the plants aren't springing up anywhere near as much as the last two did.
Hoping there is nothing wrong as they seem to look ok other than that. Would love some opinions though, let me know what you think!

I find that if you water just around the seedling for about the first 2 weeks, gradually increasing the amount and expanding out the cover area. I end up with massive root ball w/no root binding. Just what has proven to work for me and I was the poster child for over watering.
Here's a very informative video.

How to water Marijuana growing in coco - YouTube
Peace.

 

[Bill the Cat]

Update:

Girls are 8 days old now but still looking a little small for what I would expect. The coco was pre charged with Week 1 feed as I did last time but the plants aren't springing up anywhere near as much as the last two did.
Hoping there is nothing wrong as they seem to look ok other than that. Would love some opinions though, let me know what you think!

I find that if you water just around the seedling for about the first 2 weeks, gradually increasing the amount and expanding out the cover area. I end up with massive root ball w/no root binding. Just what has proven to work for me and I was the poster child for over watering. I use a little, a few drops, H&G roots excelurator with each watering.
Here's a very informative video.

How to water Marijuana growing in coco - YouTube
Peace.

 

[FiveToMidnight]

I find that if you water just around the seedling for about the first 2 weeks, gradually increasing the amount and expanding out the cover area. I end up with massive root ball w/no root binding. Just what has proven to work for me and I was the poster child for over watering.
Here's a very informative video.

How to water Marijuana growing in coco - YouTube
Peace.

Thanks Bill, I've been trying the same this run too

 

[FiveToMidnight]

Update:

The girls are 15 days old today and still looking a little small for what I would expect at this age. Normally I'm a couple of days away from topping but I can't see that happening anytime soon. I really hope they spring to life soon, they're starting to concern me.

Let me know what you guys think

 

[Skybound]

How deep till moisture/wetness in the media? Almost looks arid on top.

 

[FiveToMidnight]

How deep till moisture/wetness in the media? Almost looks arid on top.

Only about half a centimetre, if that

 

[Skybound]

I'm stumped! Try asking this Q&A thread.

 

[FiveToMidnight]

I'm stumped! Try asking this Q&A thread.

I've had a couple of slow starters in the past and both turned out nice so I'll see how they go for now. Might put a post up if there isn't much change during the week

 

[FiveToMidnight]

Update:

19 days old today and looking much MUCH better now. Both girls have peaked up a bit and look much happier now. They had a light feed two days ago where I made sure all the coco was wet and got about 20% run off, but I'm not sure if that made a difference or not. If it did, it took a couple of days because they still didn't look too healthy yesterday.
I would normally have topped these girls at this age but due to their small size, I think I might have to wait another week. They look to me to be about the size they would normally be at about the 12 day mark so I think some more growth is needed.

 

[FiveToMidnight]

Update:

21 days old now and looking MUCH better, particularly Big Devil. Growth seems to accelerated and new leaves are looking a really nice green.
Let me know what you guys think!

 

[Skybound]

I know you pretreat coco with calmag, but how soon till you begin using it after seed? The reason I ask is Big Devil is already showing what looks like a mild Cal def IMO.

 

[FiveToMidnight]

Re: Five's Auto Garden - Bloody Skunk Auto & Big Devil Auto

I know you pretreat coco with calmag, but how soon till you begin using it after seed? The reason I ask is Big Devil is already showing what looks like a mild Cal def IMO.

I don't use extra calmag anymore as Canna nutes shouldn't need it as I understand.
Maybe I should try adding some?