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    Re: luxx's very first grow

    Sounds awesome I think the cfl's work much better than fluro's i had in veg...and for now it is all i use in flower room...next grow will use hps for sure when flowering

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    ok change of plans, scrog!

    i have a 7x3x7 foot area i can use. thats 21 sq feet? right?
    minus say 5 sq feet for whatever, leave 16, 2 plants per sq feet, 32 plants at say 3 ft tall?

    If i get one ounce per plan ill be happy.

    but, i want to get me a good motherplant first, so i can clone, so i need to minus some sq feet for the veging/clone section.

    anyone have any pics of what i think im visoning?

    i have built houses before so i know im able physically, but not financially. :\

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    btw how much kelvins got you'r cfl's?6500?2700?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cigo View Post
    btw how much kelvins got you'r cfl's?6500?2700?
    2700 according to acehardwares site, is that bad?

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    i growed with 2700k., and with 4000k.(same strain) this was huuuge diffrence so 2700k and 6500 k will be much bigger diffrence so , i think yeah this is not so bad but still not good...~2100-3000 k good for flowering, 6500 k perfect for veg.
    btw if you want to grow only with cfl's look:
    i would buy ~ 6-8x 20w 6500 kelvins bulbs for veg.
    and 10-16 20w 2700 kelvins bulbs for flowering.
    then you should get good results of grow!
    good luck man! keep it light and green!

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    why 20 watters? i can get the 26s for the same price

    26w daylight cfl from walmart

    also, the screw in sockets, i can get them from walmart, lowes, or home depot?

    ive decided on getting a 400w hps for flowering so just need the veg light. I dont know why i didnt ask myself "is this the right temp?" Well, i know now. I keep telling myself that this is the first grow, kinda like school, you dont always get it right the first time.

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    luxx your doing good so far and you have got some great advice from cigo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luxx View Post
    why 20 watters? i can get the 26s for the same price

    26w daylight cfl from walmart

    also, the screw in sockets, i can get them from walmart, lowes, or home depot?

    ive decided on getting a 400w hps for flowering so just need the veg light. I dont know why i didnt ask myself "is this the right temp?" Well, i know now. I keep telling myself that this is the first grow, kinda like school, you dont always get it right the first time.
    yah thats good, even better.Diffrence..: you would need not so much of them.
    for veg.:5-7 x 26 w 6500 k.~~
    for flow.:8-13 x 26 w 2700 k.~~
    thats the diffrence

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    I'm glad to see people are discussing cost of electricity and not stealing it like some silly folks do but i guess this being such a good site you wont get people like that.

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    we are not necessarily talking about the actual cost of the electricity, more on the required temp or different spectrum for different stages of growth. After some research, I have confirmed cigos explanation is dead on.

    6500 for veg (higher spectrum, simulates early summers bright light.
    2700 for flowering (lower spectrum, simulates shorter days getting closer to fall)

    new questions -
    Lighting:
    how can i formulate how much light penetration i have? i have a 20 amp breaker, will having close to 25 cfls be too much for the breaker?
    Bugs:
    I seen a small red insect with black spots (too small for a ladybug) on a leaf. Bad or Good? One of my larger leaves since birth has had what looks like bites or deformities, 1/4 of the leaf is gone. Should i A. Let it go, dont worry about it, get some sleep at night. Or should i B. Pull up the seedling and discard it as a loss.
    Transplanting:
    My plants are setting in 6 pod growing trays, i have the treys doubled up to make them a little stronger. How do i know if they are root bound, and how should i remove them from the slots. (Ive had two ideas on this, one, cut the plastic trey out from around the soil. two, let them dry out a tad and attempt to pull them.)

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    Oh Oh you have red spider mites they pose a great threat to your grow. I have outbreaks of them. You can use a soap made with neem oil to get rid of them or you can use lady bugs. You can get both a your local garden store.
    Power a 20 amp line is 2400 watts total so you cfl's shouldn't be over 2200 watts that give you a 200w fudge factor.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pan4gold49 View Post
    Oh Oh you have red spider mites they pose a great threat to your grow.
    great. but i am glad this happened on my mid-grade seeds and not some bank seeds.

    SO, i need to find soap with neem oil? i dont need anymore bugs in my apt, so no ladybugs.

    AND, once i get the soap w/ neem, do i spray it? add it to water? soil?

    i could google this, but incase of a person running into the same problem ill ask.

    how come only two plants are effected? affected? (im high so no thinky tonight) no change in 2 days since ive been spraying a 6.5 ph, with trace amounts of plant food, on the leaves lightly. I herd that keeping the leaves moist bugs stay away, or is that some bugs?

    btw thanks pan for helpin me out

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    well after i started keeping the plants moist, there are no bugs. So i dont want to start spraying stuff on it if its just temporary.

    well i moved my fan a little and went to the bar, when i got back the seedling that was closest to the fan was blew completely over. I propped it back up. the base of the stem seems weak, even though ive kept a fan on them since birth.

    went to the store today to price everything i needed, looks like it will be a while before i can get all that i realy need. O well, ill do this grow the cheap way and build up as i go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTentgrow View Post
    I'm glad to see people are discussing cost of electricity and not stealing it like some silly folks do but i guess this being such a good site you wont get people like that.
    lol just realized my last post wasn't meant to be posted here.
    i had two windows open in my browser and posted on the wrong one.

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