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    Hello my new friend.
    You probably have seen this but in case you havent...
    http://www.420magazine.com/forums/se...bis-plant.html
    Nice pics good tutorial...
    I hope you have great success with this, Your mother should have some green leaves on her before you cut her top or she will die. Remember leaves+light= energy for your plant. Both healthy leaves and healthy roots are needed.
    I am trying to create a new home for a mother to be. I have mostly grown from seed but most HP growers that I know just love cuttings, including my first mentor in cultivation of this plant. I saw his clones in a home made cloner using the root spray system that were only 2-3 inches tall, had the nodes, leaves trimmed about half-way, and the roots appeared in days and were very long and beautiful. I personally have only used a root hormone and plugs and have been only partly successful. One thing I learned is to be very clean, just like a surgical procedure, to keep the cutting as healthy as possible.
    I suspect you will have good fortune in your ventures, you sound pretty resourceful.
    Fineas
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    Re: The Begining of Hydro

    Quote Originally Posted by fineas View Post
    Hello my new friend.
    You probably have seen this but in case you havent...
    http://www.420magazine.com/forums/se...bis-plant.html
    Nice pics good tutorial...
    I hope you have great success with this, Your mother should have some green leaves on her before you cut her top or she will die. Remember leaves+light= energy for your plant. Both healthy leaves and healthy roots are needed.
    I am trying to create a new home for a mother to be. I have mostly grown from seed but most HP growers that I know just love cuttings, including my first mentor in cultivation of this plant. I saw his clones in a home made cloner using the root spray system that were only 2-3 inches tall, had the nodes, leaves trimmed about half-way, and the roots appeared in days and were very long and beautiful. I personally have only used a root hormone and plugs and have been only partly successful. One thing I learned is to be very clean, just like a surgical procedure, to keep the cutting as healthy as possible.
    I suspect you will have good fortune in your ventures, you sound pretty resourceful.
    Fineas
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    Thank you my friend...you are too kind. I just recieved my 5 gal. bucket system. The FedEx guy walked right in where some of my students were and one of them asked me if I was "taking it to the next level". I had to laugh. As I have said, I hide nothing from my students. Why should I hide what I know is beneficial to all ?

    My rooting gel should be here by Saturday hopefully, and then the cloning begins. Until then, I will continue to read. And thank you very much for sending me the link on cloning. I am sure to have success with friends like you guiding me.

    Thank you again my friend...may you find peace and harmony in all your endeavors.
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    Re: The Begining of Hydro

    Well today makes it day 3 (I think) since I put my germinated seeds in the Rapid Rooter plugs. And here is where they are tonight.



    I imagine they have roots already, but I'm not checking until Saturday the 13th



    My bucket system arrived today.



    Nice deep net pot. Can't wait to see what I can do with this.



    One of my lights. A Sunlight 42 watt cfl boasting 2800 lumens



    I'm topping this lady soon and she will be introduced to the bucket hydro system. She is 40 days old today.




    Things are starting to come together. And everything should be in hydro by the 1st part of next week.

    Peace and harmony be with you all...
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    One of those lights is OK for cuttings taking root. 4 to 6 of them at least to grow them. Your plants show me sparse growth, I advise get remote ballast 250w HPS. Nice all purpose starter lamp. You gonna need lumens! Bigger is indeed better, and somewhat costlier. Nothing is for nothing. Fugedabout 250, you got buckets and ambition. Let there be Light. You can't cut those poor scrawny things I see in the pix till you get some growth, not mere sad survival. I will watch your progress with interest. Bubblers and attytude +rep

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    Re: The Begining of Hydro

    Quote Originally Posted by Propa Gator View Post
    One of those lights is OK for cuttings taking root. 4 to 6 of them at least to grow them. Your plants show me sparse growth, I advise get remote ballast 250w HPS. Nice all purpose starter lamp. You gonna need lumens! Bigger is indeed better, and somewhat costlier. Nothing is for nothing. Fugedabout 250, you got buckets and ambition. Let there be Light. You can't cut those poor scrawny things I see in the pix till you get some growth, not mere sad survival. I will watch your progress with interest. Bubblers and attytude +rep
    Thank you for your advice. I am looking to expand my buckets. Sealth Hydro has a 3 bucket deal like the one I already have for about $200.00 plus...and one of the sponsers on here has a WaterFarm 8 bucket deal for about $400.00 I am also looking for lighting, and hopefully I will find what I need for a resonable price very soon.

    Thank you again...Peace be with you
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    Another grower gave me an idea that is great and cheap. At any walmart or wherever you can get y-connectors for your lights and make a "chandelier" of them. Use 4 highest blue light cfls. put 2 to a y connection X2, then into another y then into a straight connector then into your socket with the hood. This is an inexpensive way to increase lighting 4x you need 3 y connectors and one straight into your existing socket.
    I hang 3 of these chandeliers over my grow bed and they grew bushy and well. I have a MH/HPS ballast and the backside to this was use one or the other. SO I used the cfl's to veg and HPS to flower. This will do well even if you dont get another light system until you are ready to flower.
    Maybe the HID lights are better but they are really alot hotter. Down here in the south it is already over 98 degrees and it takes alot of AC to cool down 2 HIDs. So for me I use the cfls for veg and HPS for flower.
    My friend, another thing I can tell you from experience is that for you to get a grow under your belt as well. You are on your way already. You can veg your mothers a while before you decide on a new growing system. You will find that you learn so much more with "hands on" + you have the advice from the growers here to assist. You have a journal, you have knowledge and access to advice and seems like you can get supplies, and you dont seem to have an 'ego' problem listening to others. Dude you are on your way there!!!!
    Light up those mothers and may the force be with you.

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    Re: The Begining of Hydro

    Quote Originally Posted by fineas View Post
    Another grower gave me an idea that is great and cheap. At any walmart or wherever you can get y-connectors for your lights and make a "chandelier" of them. Use 4 highest blue light cfls. put 2 to a y connection X2, then into another y then into a straight connector then into your socket with the hood. This is an inexpensive way to increase lighting 4x you need 3 y connectors and one straight into your existing socket.
    I hang 3 of these chandeliers over my grow bed and they grew bushy and well. I have a MH/HPS ballast and the backside to this was use one or the other. SO I used the cfl's to veg and HPS to flower. This will do well even if you dont get another light system until you are ready to flower.
    Maybe the HID lights are better but they are really alot hotter. Down here in the south it is already over 98 degrees and it takes alot of AC to cool down 2 HIDs. So for me I use the cfls for veg and HPS for flower.
    My friend, another thing I can tell you from experience is that for you to get a grow under your belt as well. You are on your way already. You can veg your mothers a while before you decide on a new growing system. You will find that you learn so much more with "hands on" + you have the advice from the growers here to assist. You have a journal, you have knowledge and access to advice and seems like you can get supplies, and you dont seem to have an 'ego' problem listening to others. Dude you are on your way there!!!!
    Light up those mothers and may the force be with you.

    That is a fine idea indeed. I have more lights on the way along with some feminized auto-flowering AK-47 seeds. I'll have some new pix up soon. I just have some other things to take care of first.

    Thank you again my friend...peace be with you
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    Hi Look here at this page of Potpies light.
    http://www.420magazine.com/forums/jo...ng-nollij.html
    This is where I got the idea from. But use 6400K, 23 W 1600 lumen each. Sometimes is hard to find the bit of info you want even searching here. I have followed Potpies grow and if you look at what he is doing and how his grow is coming along (is nearly finished) you will be impressed at what he attained in his quest. I know I am.
    Talk to you soon my friend
    Fin
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    Good luck

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    I have learned many things thru simple experimentation. One of the greatest lessons I have learned thru Martial Art is that no one thing works for everyone. What may work for one person, may give the next person nothing but disapointment. I just took one of my seedling sprouts, which has good roots already started, and placed it into my bucket with fresh water and about 1/4 strength grow nutes. The ph level was adjusted after I added the nutes and it is at about 6.5 Now the water level I am keeping just under the bottom of the net pot with only the thin layer of hydroton between the now rooting lady and the water, which by the way I am hoping will cause the roots to seek out the misting caused by the bubbling action.

    Unless I have made some mistake I am not aware of thus far, I should see some growth from this action. I thank you all for your advice and I wish you continued success in your growing efforts. My wife has taken the kids and our only camera on vacation, so there will be no pics up for a while. Sorry folks.

    Oh yea, 3 of the 4 I had in the DWC unit have died. I am not sure why, but that does free up space for my seeds which will be here early next week along with 4 new HO cfl veg lights. About the seeds...they are auto flowering feminized White Russians with a THC content of 22 % + (from what I have read). They will be started upon germination in rockwool or RR plugs. I will continue to write about the grow with as much description as possible, and when I get another camera, or when my wife returns, I will put pics up.

    Peace and harmony be with you my friends...
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    what dose swc stand for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayboyicu View Post
    what dose swc stand for?
    DWC (Deep Water Culture) basically means the plant is normally suspended ,supported in a net /mesh pot or basket which is fitted into the lid of a bucket or Rubbermade like tub. With an airstone in the bucket and half filled with nutrient solution, the roots are constantly bathed in highly oxygenated food source. With the help of a few very effective additives to prevent root rot and to promote vigorous rooting during vegative growth, so the plant can drink more nutrients during blooming.

    Welcome to the site my friend.....peace be with you...
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    Oh yea, 3 of the 4 I had in the DWC unit have died. I am not sure why, but that does free up space for my seeds which will be here early next week along with 4 new HO cfl veg lights.
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    I mean no disrespect, but it would behoove you to do your best to find out why they died so that it does not happen again.

    Do not pass up an opportunity to learn from your failure.

    regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by setting sun View Post
    I mean no disrespect, but it would behoove you to do your best to find out why they died so that it does not happen again.

    Do not pass up an opportunity to learn from your failure.

    regards,

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    No offense taken my friend. As a matter of fact I have been working on that very problem as I am a firm believer in learning from one's failures. The one suvivor I transplanted to a 5 gal. bucket dwc is thriving and growing very well.

    You know what they say...a bud in the hand is worth 2 on the bush.

    Peace be with you my friend...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Li Siu Loong View Post
    No offense taken my friend. As a matter of fact I have been working on that very problem as I am a firm believer in learning from one's failures. The one suvivor I transplanted to a 5 gal. bucket dwc is thriving and growing very well.

    You know what they say...a bud in the hand is worth 2 on the bush.

    Peace be with you my friend...

    One thing I'm learning as I develop my relationship with this plant is that growing requires a great deal of flexibility and adaptation. The plant will only adapt itself to me to a certain degree. The rest is me adapting to the plant.

    My life has been a series of passions, hobbies and interests, but rarely has something enthralled me as much as this plant.

    The fact that it has been a godsend for me medically is pretty nice icing on the cake.

    regards,

    SS

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    Re: The Begining of Hydro

    Quote Originally Posted by setting sun View Post
    One thing I'm learning as I develop my relationship with this plant is that growing requires a great deal of flexibility and adaptation. The plant will only adapt itself to me to a certain degree. The rest is me adapting to the plant.

    My life has been a series of passions, hobbies and interests, but rarely has something enthralled me as much as this plant.

    The fact that it has been a godsend for me medically is pretty nice icing on the cake.

    regards,

    SS

    I couldn’t agree more with you my friend. Adaptability and pliability are essential in the success of just about anything. That you understand this and apply it to your gardening in my opinion puts you much closer to victory.

    I also admire your passion for what you are doing. I feel that we share this trait. And I am very happy to hear that it has helped you medically. I have several injuries myself that I apply cannabis as well as mediation to. It truly is a wonderful gift.

    All my best wishes to you for peace and harmony…
    Li Siu Loong

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