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    Re: DWC additives for cloner

    Thank you so much guys! I really hope this solves my issues for good! Just finished cleaning the system, changing the water/nutes, and added Z7 to some struggling DWC moms. Going to try Z7 + hydroguard from clone through flower my next round. Also going to bleach/physan20 all my equipment and boil all my hydroton for 30 minutes to make sure everything is dead. Hopefully that puts a good ending to this horrible saga ive been going through! Thanks again for such quick replies, ill be sure to provide an update on results!
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    Sounds like a solid plan.
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    Re: DWC additives for cloner

    Hey guys I forgot to ask how often you recommend changing the water and nutrients in the reservoir? Also is there a need to add more Z7 in between rez changes or the initial dose is enough? Thanks again
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    Re: DWC additives for cloner

    I never change the water in the cloner.

    I get roots at about 7days and move them into their buckets at about 9 or 10 days.

    I just use tap water and z7 till the move. Unless I need to hold them in the cloner for a while. Then I may trim the roots to make them branch out and to stay out of the pump and I will give a little nutes at that point.

    But most of the time they only get the first mix of z7 and water and then they move to dwc buckets with 1/4 nutes for the first week.

    That all works for me like that because I don't give them much light until I see roots. They do not need it and they will not need as much water that way. All leaves should stay nice and green the whole way through.
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    Re: DWC additives for cloner

    Sounds good dukeO, thanks. I'm still extremely successful with cloning, but the slime always seems to get me in the vegetative stage. Do you change out the reservoir/bucket nutrients at all when in the vegetative or flowering stage, or you just top off when needed? How long do you veg in the buckets before flipping to flower? And if you don't change out your nutrients, do you add more z7 periodically? Thanks a million times for the help!
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    I use 5gal DWC buckets. I will from time to time when the water level drops in the bucket and I would normally just add more mix. I will instead suck down even more water with my transfer pump and refill with new mix. So a 80 to 90% change. I never have to wash buckets when using z7. So they always stay in the tent. I veg from 2 to 3 weeks most of the time. Then I will move the bucket full of veg mix into the flower tent and let it work the water level down and then refill with flower mix so it is a blend the first week of flower and then pump off and refill with full flower mix after that.

    I got the battery transfer pump on amazon less then $20 and it makes doing dwc buckets very easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sosincere View Post
    Hey guys I forgot to ask how often you recommend changing the water and nutrients in the reservoir? Also is there a need to add more Z7 in between rez changes or the initial dose is enough? Thanks again
    First of all I'm glad DukeO provided good answers for you on the buckets as I run ebb and flow (flood and drain). I usally change my 20 Gallon reservoir every 2 weeks sometimes longer when I get lazy. I always add z7 at every change and I believe their website wants you to add some every 4-5 days. I found every 7-10 works great for me and It might go longer just haven't pushed it. Anyway hope this helps.
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    Re: DWC additives for cloner

    I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for all the advice. I really appreciate it and I'm going to order some Z 7. I'll be cloning in the next few weeks. I have some DJ short Blueberry x Obama Kush seedlings going. Hopefully they will be big enough for some cuts soon. I'm excited about the new cloning process
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiOutdoorsman View Post
    I'm excited about the new cloning process
    Hey Mi glad to hear it. I'm excited as well for this will be my first time cloning. I have some green house seed co. white widows that I will put into their 3 gallon grow bags (they're in 1 gallon right now) this weekend and flip to 12/12 and take a few clones from them.

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    Re: DWC additives for cloner

    Hey guys, once your clones have rooted vigorously, exactly how much light do you give them when you first put them in veg? Thanks so much. BTW Z7 looks very promising so far! Oh and the replies you guys gave were perfect as I do both ebb and dwc....
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    Re: DWC additives for cloner

    This will be my first time cloning but I'm going to put them under 18/6 like I would seedlings once they have enough roots to go on the table.
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    Re: DWC additives for cloner

    I give full veg LED light after roots show and 18/6.
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    I give full veg LED light after roots show and 18/6.
    Thanks guys. DukeO, what ppm do you give them when you give them full veg light? I usually start veg with 3 pairs of T12 fluorescents like a foot above and lower them every few days as I slowly raise ppm from 300 to 700 over the course of 2 weeks veg... next time think ill try putting the lights right above them and 500+ ppm from the start. Its been two weeks of Z7 and so far its living up to the hype! Havn't had any more root issues, nothing but fast growth. I was struggling for months until now. If this continues for another two weeks I will be a Z7 user for life. I thought all the reviews on amazon and z7 website were fake until I saw dukeO's posts and finally decided to try it.
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    Re: DWC additives for cloner

    I highly suggest Z7 as well. Its all I added to PH'd water and had a 100% success rate on my first 4 clones.
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    Re: DWC additives for cloner

    I start veg out at about 500ppm. My tap water is 140ppm.
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