BrokrnEyes
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OK so the situation is that I am monitoring my plant in a Top fed DWC System on a daily basis and up until Monday, the rate of nutrients being consumed was at a fairly predictable Pace, however, since Monday The PPM has been decreasing at an exponential rate. It went from 60-70 PPM's being lost in 24 hour period to around 125 and now today after measuring it, it's spiked to nearly 300 ppm being lost! Below is the information concerning my plant, system, nutrients and the notes for the past five days that I've collected which include the measurements that I have been taking. I don't necessarily believe that the plant is in distress, every morning I see visible growth, between 1—2 inches but given the fact that this has suddenly started to occur I need to know if this is the part of the plants particular lifecycle or something else is at work here.
Sidenote, effective remaining ppm refers to the subtraction of 155 ppm that is present in the water after Phil Traciann and Ph down was added: the figure is referring to the known quantity of nutrients still remaining in the tank.
Data:
Plant: feminize white widow auto flower, 29 days old
System: aero garden ultra LED, equipped with an additional air pump and air stone as well as reserve water reservoir to keep the water levels constant. 2 300w LED lights ( in addition to the Grove hood of the aero garden ) totaling 630 W. Entire system is contained within a custom built mylar wind cabinet And has and oscillating fan and diffuser to provide additional humidity in the cabinet as well as a exhaust vent at the opposite corner of the cabinet.
Notes:
Tuesday:
Temperature: 82°F
Humidity: 57 percent
PH: 6.5
Corrected pH: 6.0
Ppm: 418
Ppm consumed: 166 ?!
Effective remaining ppm: 263
Notes: two drops of pH down added. I am shocked at how much nutrients the plant has consumed and rather concerned at that fact. When I extracted the nutrient sample, I can clearly see that the color was visibly paler, strongly indicating that the plant has consumed quite a bit of nutrients. I have posted on the forums for advice on the situation, it's entirely possible that the plant has stepped up it's intake of nutrients in which case it's perfectly fine but still, granted the fact that I didn't check the nutrients on cereal and Sunday, and I want to fucking a really should've checked on Monday but still I can't imagine that there was that much consumption. Tomorrow I'll know for sure what the situation is with the plant and will adjust The nutrients accordingly. If I see that the plant has repeated the nutrient drain tomorrow at 10 AM, the next feeding I will increase it to 3.5-4 ml for the flora nova. I think I will continue to only give it the super thrive vitamins at the .60 mL Per feeding I have been.
Wednesday:
Time: 10 AM
Temperature: 75°F
Humidity: 50% humidity
PH: 7.0
Ppm: 246
Consumed ppm: 172
Effective remaining ppm: 91
Nutrients fed:
Super thrive plant vitamin: .60 mL
Flora nova grow: 5.0
Notes: right off the bat, I could tell that I'm going to find very little effect of PPM in this new sample. The solution is virtually clear, telling me that the plant has sucked nearly all if not all nutrients already out of the water. As a result I'm going have no choice but to feed it today.
As the consumed PPM and the effect of remaining PPM figures show, the plant has certainly more than doubled its consumption since Friday. I think I may have to train my partner and how to take measurements during the weekends I'm not here, although a PPM measure doesn't take that long if I do it when I get back from class. Based on yesterday's consumed PPM measurements, the plant is indeed consuming in the triple digits a daily basis now and seems to be on exponential increase. Based on the measurements of the remaining effective PPM I don't suspect that I will have to take into account the increased just yet, but it's pregnant be something I am depending you do anyway especially considering that I don't entirely count the PPM alterations when pH down has to be added after the nutrients have them.
The plant has consumed approximately 337 effective ppm of nutrients
I need to have my partner calibrate the pH pen, I stuff and we lack the touch necessary and hoping that he'll have it. The pH is once again 7.0, the curse me that's entirely possible that the plant is also Jurin the pH down, which wouldn't be all that surprising. Sure we would seem that with the second batch I'm having a bit more difficult to control in the pH balance as of two stores want to creep back up into the seven range.
Nutrient notes: decide to give you a higher dose of nutrients today than what I normally would even if this was on Thursday, this is to compensate for the fact that the nutrient contents of the solution is nearly negligible now as well as the fifth I'm feeding a day or early see measurements about for exact amounts. Of course I will monitor the solution over the next several days, it being a off weekend technically it shouldn't be that difficult. I have to met I am hoping that the sudden increase in nutrients not a shock for the plants, as I am damn you're doubling it's feeding amount, wake me up about 1 mL short.
Post nutrients:
Ppm: 910
Effective ppm: 755
PH: 5.0
Note: pH up added 8 drops
Final pH: 6.0
Thursday:
Time: 10:15 AM
Temperature: 77 degrees Fahrenheit
Humidity: 49%
PH: 6.0
Ppm: 760
Consumed ppm: 150
Effective remaining ppm: 605
Notes: as the notes demonstrate, and a 24 hour. The plant eight 150 ppm of nutrients. This is approximately 30 points lower than what I was expecting the plant to consume based off of the previous data which should shown a 10 point increase in nutrient consumption between Tuesday and Wednesday. I continuously have to remind myself that this is in fact a biological system that I'm working with, at least in part (The important parts) and like all biological systems, it may choose to eat more nutrients one day and less nutrients another. Effect it is entirely possible, based off of the previous observation from yesterday to this morning, I believe that the plants went through a brief cycle of rapid growth and seems now have slowing down a bit. It's also possible that because the pH was in the sun porno range as opposed to the 6.0 range (note until I can get the meter properly calibrated, something that want to have to have my partner do, I will not know the exact figures and thus have to eyeball it based off of whole figures provided by the testing solution) . I have taken a photo of the plant today, I rather wish I took one yesterday, it will probably begin taking photos every three days or so. Rather wish that there was a way to encrypt the photos themselves given the legal status of the plant.
I will say in these notes however that I've counted at least eight highly likely flower sites so far on the plants. With approximately a week and 1/2—2 weeks remaining in the vegetative growth cycle, it is entirely possible that the plant will more than double the value by the time that it begins its flowering cycle and edition with the fact that this particular plant has a history of going through one final growth spurt before flowering in earnest, it is entirely likely that I may end up with over 25 separate flower sites, which frankly would be amazing if I could pull that off for a very first grow.
Finally, the plan is indeed increased its water uptake exponentially. Hope until I want to say last Wednesday, water consumption was fairly Standard for a single plant it's size, I see nothing more than a quarter — half gallon of water being consumed within a week, however I have now observed the plant seems to have consumed anywhere from three quarters to a whole gallon in a single week. Based of what I have read, I can expect the plant to only increase its water consumption the further it goes and if this is indeed the case, it is quite possible that ass room point I will have to change the feeding system once again and almost have to administer the nutrients on a daily basis to prevent talks Acacian of the plant (if it's consuming a gallon of water a day, in the system only holds a little over 2 gallons, with a single gallon in the reserve reservoir, putting in several days worth of nutrients in the water may lead to nutrient burn or nitrogen toxicity if works I'll take all that nutrients at once. Will definitely have to look into building a plant nutrient reserve.
Friday: ( today )
Time: 11 AM
Temperature: 75°F
Humidity: 53%
DH: 6.3-6.5
Ppm: 466
Consumed ppm: 294
Fictive remaining ppm: 311
Notes: The pH is slowly creeping up, due to the fact that I'm using the chemical tester solution I can't confirm exactly how much the pH is going up a based on the color of the sample I would say it is between the above stated values. Despite this, I'm going to wait till tomorrow before I add any pH down to stabilize it, this is also due to the fact that I am seen an increased uptake of nutrients again and I'm beginning to suspect that the plant is actually up taking more at this higher pH then when it is closer to the 5.8 point that is, according to my research at least, the sweet spot. A retest of the sample solution showed the same results as well.
What is troubling me is the fact that the consumed PPM is nearly double what it was yesterday! Because of this I have to say that I'm going to post the last three days worth of notes on the forums to get some input as this seems to be quite an interesting issue. If it's a matter of the plant is quickly accelerating its growth rates that's one thing but if something else is at work I need to know.
Please bear in mind that these are raw notes, and the fact that I have to use a voice dictator program to record them so, like it is with the forums, sometimes it doesn't interpret what I am saying correctly. So guys, any thoughts on what's the deal with the sudden rapid increase in nutrient consumption? I could take a photo and try to link it to you guys, however because I can only go online with my phone, I can't actually post the image in the way that's typical for the forums, I can provide the link just not a straight up photo.
Sidenote, effective remaining ppm refers to the subtraction of 155 ppm that is present in the water after Phil Traciann and Ph down was added: the figure is referring to the known quantity of nutrients still remaining in the tank.
Data:
Plant: feminize white widow auto flower, 29 days old
System: aero garden ultra LED, equipped with an additional air pump and air stone as well as reserve water reservoir to keep the water levels constant. 2 300w LED lights ( in addition to the Grove hood of the aero garden ) totaling 630 W. Entire system is contained within a custom built mylar wind cabinet And has and oscillating fan and diffuser to provide additional humidity in the cabinet as well as a exhaust vent at the opposite corner of the cabinet.
Notes:
Tuesday:
Temperature: 82°F
Humidity: 57 percent
PH: 6.5
Corrected pH: 6.0
Ppm: 418
Ppm consumed: 166 ?!
Effective remaining ppm: 263
Notes: two drops of pH down added. I am shocked at how much nutrients the plant has consumed and rather concerned at that fact. When I extracted the nutrient sample, I can clearly see that the color was visibly paler, strongly indicating that the plant has consumed quite a bit of nutrients. I have posted on the forums for advice on the situation, it's entirely possible that the plant has stepped up it's intake of nutrients in which case it's perfectly fine but still, granted the fact that I didn't check the nutrients on cereal and Sunday, and I want to fucking a really should've checked on Monday but still I can't imagine that there was that much consumption. Tomorrow I'll know for sure what the situation is with the plant and will adjust The nutrients accordingly. If I see that the plant has repeated the nutrient drain tomorrow at 10 AM, the next feeding I will increase it to 3.5-4 ml for the flora nova. I think I will continue to only give it the super thrive vitamins at the .60 mL Per feeding I have been.
Wednesday:
Time: 10 AM
Temperature: 75°F
Humidity: 50% humidity
PH: 7.0
Ppm: 246
Consumed ppm: 172
Effective remaining ppm: 91
Nutrients fed:
Super thrive plant vitamin: .60 mL
Flora nova grow: 5.0
Notes: right off the bat, I could tell that I'm going to find very little effect of PPM in this new sample. The solution is virtually clear, telling me that the plant has sucked nearly all if not all nutrients already out of the water. As a result I'm going have no choice but to feed it today.
As the consumed PPM and the effect of remaining PPM figures show, the plant has certainly more than doubled its consumption since Friday. I think I may have to train my partner and how to take measurements during the weekends I'm not here, although a PPM measure doesn't take that long if I do it when I get back from class. Based on yesterday's consumed PPM measurements, the plant is indeed consuming in the triple digits a daily basis now and seems to be on exponential increase. Based on the measurements of the remaining effective PPM I don't suspect that I will have to take into account the increased just yet, but it's pregnant be something I am depending you do anyway especially considering that I don't entirely count the PPM alterations when pH down has to be added after the nutrients have them.
The plant has consumed approximately 337 effective ppm of nutrients
I need to have my partner calibrate the pH pen, I stuff and we lack the touch necessary and hoping that he'll have it. The pH is once again 7.0, the curse me that's entirely possible that the plant is also Jurin the pH down, which wouldn't be all that surprising. Sure we would seem that with the second batch I'm having a bit more difficult to control in the pH balance as of two stores want to creep back up into the seven range.
Nutrient notes: decide to give you a higher dose of nutrients today than what I normally would even if this was on Thursday, this is to compensate for the fact that the nutrient contents of the solution is nearly negligible now as well as the fifth I'm feeding a day or early see measurements about for exact amounts. Of course I will monitor the solution over the next several days, it being a off weekend technically it shouldn't be that difficult. I have to met I am hoping that the sudden increase in nutrients not a shock for the plants, as I am damn you're doubling it's feeding amount, wake me up about 1 mL short.
Post nutrients:
Ppm: 910
Effective ppm: 755
PH: 5.0
Note: pH up added 8 drops
Final pH: 6.0
Thursday:
Time: 10:15 AM
Temperature: 77 degrees Fahrenheit
Humidity: 49%
PH: 6.0
Ppm: 760
Consumed ppm: 150
Effective remaining ppm: 605
Notes: as the notes demonstrate, and a 24 hour. The plant eight 150 ppm of nutrients. This is approximately 30 points lower than what I was expecting the plant to consume based off of the previous data which should shown a 10 point increase in nutrient consumption between Tuesday and Wednesday. I continuously have to remind myself that this is in fact a biological system that I'm working with, at least in part (The important parts) and like all biological systems, it may choose to eat more nutrients one day and less nutrients another. Effect it is entirely possible, based off of the previous observation from yesterday to this morning, I believe that the plants went through a brief cycle of rapid growth and seems now have slowing down a bit. It's also possible that because the pH was in the sun porno range as opposed to the 6.0 range (note until I can get the meter properly calibrated, something that want to have to have my partner do, I will not know the exact figures and thus have to eyeball it based off of whole figures provided by the testing solution) . I have taken a photo of the plant today, I rather wish I took one yesterday, it will probably begin taking photos every three days or so. Rather wish that there was a way to encrypt the photos themselves given the legal status of the plant.
I will say in these notes however that I've counted at least eight highly likely flower sites so far on the plants. With approximately a week and 1/2—2 weeks remaining in the vegetative growth cycle, it is entirely possible that the plant will more than double the value by the time that it begins its flowering cycle and edition with the fact that this particular plant has a history of going through one final growth spurt before flowering in earnest, it is entirely likely that I may end up with over 25 separate flower sites, which frankly would be amazing if I could pull that off for a very first grow.
Finally, the plan is indeed increased its water uptake exponentially. Hope until I want to say last Wednesday, water consumption was fairly Standard for a single plant it's size, I see nothing more than a quarter — half gallon of water being consumed within a week, however I have now observed the plant seems to have consumed anywhere from three quarters to a whole gallon in a single week. Based of what I have read, I can expect the plant to only increase its water consumption the further it goes and if this is indeed the case, it is quite possible that ass room point I will have to change the feeding system once again and almost have to administer the nutrients on a daily basis to prevent talks Acacian of the plant (if it's consuming a gallon of water a day, in the system only holds a little over 2 gallons, with a single gallon in the reserve reservoir, putting in several days worth of nutrients in the water may lead to nutrient burn or nitrogen toxicity if works I'll take all that nutrients at once. Will definitely have to look into building a plant nutrient reserve.
Friday: ( today )
Time: 11 AM
Temperature: 75°F
Humidity: 53%
DH: 6.3-6.5
Ppm: 466
Consumed ppm: 294
Fictive remaining ppm: 311
Notes: The pH is slowly creeping up, due to the fact that I'm using the chemical tester solution I can't confirm exactly how much the pH is going up a based on the color of the sample I would say it is between the above stated values. Despite this, I'm going to wait till tomorrow before I add any pH down to stabilize it, this is also due to the fact that I am seen an increased uptake of nutrients again and I'm beginning to suspect that the plant is actually up taking more at this higher pH then when it is closer to the 5.8 point that is, according to my research at least, the sweet spot. A retest of the sample solution showed the same results as well.
What is troubling me is the fact that the consumed PPM is nearly double what it was yesterday! Because of this I have to say that I'm going to post the last three days worth of notes on the forums to get some input as this seems to be quite an interesting issue. If it's a matter of the plant is quickly accelerating its growth rates that's one thing but if something else is at work I need to know.
Please bear in mind that these are raw notes, and the fact that I have to use a voice dictator program to record them so, like it is with the forums, sometimes it doesn't interpret what I am saying correctly. So guys, any thoughts on what's the deal with the sudden rapid increase in nutrient consumption? I could take a photo and try to link it to you guys, however because I can only go online with my phone, I can't actually post the image in the way that's typical for the forums, I can provide the link just not a straight up photo.
