Droopy leaves not caused by under or over watering?

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beast88

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Ok, first grow going pretty well but I would like it to go even better with your help. Leaves look healthy but a little droopy for my liking. Heres the info:

Grape Kush
38 days from germination
Coco perlite mix
75 degrees
60% Humidity
Lucas Formula nutes Floro Nova Bloom
Cal Mag
Mars hydro 300 LED
Unknown PH - no pen, just aquarium tests
Unknown PPM - no pen
Good air flow

I do not believe the droopy leaves are due to under/over watering since they have stayed the same for awhile now. Could this be a problem from too high/low ph. I believe i'm bringing ph down to 6.0 BEFORE adding nutes since the aqarium tests require clear water. Also looks like a slight nitrogen toxicity. Plant is super bushy and larger fan leaves and tucked down under new growth. Let me know what you guys are thinking


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Mine did that root bound also. When transplant FIX problem if there is one.

I threw some out that wouldn't recover after I just transplanted without fixing problem.

I think sensizyme is fixing the other one.


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Ok ive repotted my girls, seemed to have been a little rootbound. Now trying to figure out why im have a N toxicity. Ive been using Flora Nova Bloom (which has less N) at half strength and MagNifiCal which is 3-0-0. Theres no way I would think im giving her too much N in veg. Also im using spring water which has 300pm. Im gonna try and flush for the next few days and see if this helps. any feedback is greatly appreciated
 
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Well here is a pic a few days later after a repot, just spring water and some defoliation. Looks much better. Not sure how it was getting too much nitrogen but im thinking i will stop feeding calmag for a bit or all together.

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I slowed down on calmag also. I saw the claw a lot when I used 3ml gallon and nova grow.

I tried nova bloom and calmag and they didn't like it at all.

I'm at 2.5ml/gal calmag from botanicare and nova grow and they are light in nitrogen if anything.

I cleaned my coco out recently and there was tons of shit in it.

I had to run a lot more than expected through 5 gal pots to get run off down to what I was putting in.






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Well i believe i have found out that bloom LOWERS ph so i believe my 6.0ph before i add the nutes is my problem. Just started ph my water to 7 now, hoping the bloom brings it down to 6. Ill post in a few days to show results. Ph meter in the mail

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Pretty much all nutrients are acidic and will lower ph. You do really need a good ph tester. If the ph is out of range many nutrients can get locked out, while N is still available- and you'll get that droopy, curly leaf effect from N toxicity. I've had it happen quite a few times.
Be careful about lowering the calmag too much in coco. Yes it does contain N - juts check the NPK numbers on the calmag bottle and factor it when you feed. I use my calmag/water base as the only nute for the first few weeks.
 
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Well plant seems to be happier. I have been adjusting my ph to around 7 BEFORE adding nutes, which is around 2 drops of ph down. I still feel like growth is slow and leaves are smaller then normal. I have stopped all calmag. The spring water im using has 76ppm cal and 28 ppm mg. Still looking for any advice. Going to be switching to flower in a couple weeks hopefully.
Thanks guys

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Here the update fellas
My ppm/ph meter came in and the numbers were shocking...
My ppm runoff was 5000+ and my ph was around 4.5.
My main problem was too many nutes for the little amount of water i was using because the pot im using is too small.
After a flush to 1300ppm and 6.0ph i think this girl will come back from the dead.
I would not think this weed would be doing as good as it is. Pics in a few days

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What a difference after a flush. Still dialing in ppm and ph. The clones i have taken off the plant weeks ago still look healthy but only one has roots. They are growing extremly slow. A few more clones will be takeb if i cant get thise to root
Any suggestions? Clones are green and look healthy but no roots yet

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I was puttting 15 drops of ph down in about 12oz of water. I would guess that ph would be somewhere around 2-4.

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Now you got everything just keep going with right ph and ppm. Let her get better and then grab ur clones

Glad to hear run off testing helped.

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