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    HAhahahaha and a $#!T load of seeds.



    Cute, huh….
    Seriously,

    I finally got Fed-up with chasing the Organic train that technically does NOT exist in hydroponics... Considering the high end sterile nutrient lines (Not to be confused with anything from AN)lol
    More on this subject….

    The thing is, we need something to break down the decaying matter that is in our tank and hydroton (grow medium).
    Options are basically....
    enzymatic or chemical.

    The enzymatic way would require the use of an enzyme.
    Every manufacturer makes a ZYME product. "They Claim" can do the job of breaking down the organic material. Once everything is eaten up, they die off without affecting (yea right) anything else. And "good" microbes will (should?, probably? maybe?) stay in the system. {what system? NOT DWC!}

    Chemical, would be the H2O2 type route. This will KILL "good" and "bad" bacteria/fungi.

    whether it's deemed as "good" bacteria/fungi or "bad" bacteria/fungi, you don't really need either in hydroponics.

    I can feed them nutrients that essentially bypass the steps the bacteria and fungi take to break down the material.
    Nutrients (certain ones) can be immediately available to the plants root zone and shouldn't "need" the beneficial’s to break it down and feed it to the plant.

    OK,I Still need to establish an overall immune response of the plant. RIGHT!

    Max potential to achieve complete genetic capabilities. And maintain the health of the reservoir.

    Flying Skull product line claims to achieve this at a very low cost!

    Beneficial's?
    As I said before...Considering the high end sterile nutrient lines. DO NOT NEED THEM.
    All products I have used in DWC (standalone), RDWC, TOP FEED, MISTERS, EBB&FLOW Have left traces of bad bacteria within the reservoir.
    Most reacted poorly to pH down.
    Almost all screwed with Amino and Folvic Acids.
    So I have to sterilize every week? to maintain a healthy system? Really? That is a lot of wasted nutrients.
    What if I believe I can get organic quality out of Hydroponics. Without the cost of a microbial nightmare.

    In the beginning…….

    Drain to Waste (5 gal buckets, utility footlocker). Using Gordon’s ECWAM Schedule.
    Micro Feed Nutrients at a Low EC.
    Aeroponics Require Less Nutrient Solution.

    Simple DIY Standalone DWC with Dewey Misters.
    Nutrients: Flying Skull (full lineup)
    Lights: LED and T5
    Strain(s) Alien OG and a Basket Full of Surprises.
    Seedling / Clone Area: Were Ever?
    VEG Area: 3’x3’x8’
    Flower Area: 9’x5’x8’
    Environmental is controlled and constant for the grow phases.

    And we are Off to a Promising Start!!!!
    Seeds in paper towel on the 12th of July.
    Rockwool Starter Cup on the 14th of July
    3gal Starter Tote on the 21st of July
    (I will use up some quality beneficial during the seedling phase)
    Well Water: Natural pH 5.45, EC 0.01, ppm 10. (2.5gal)
    AN Tarantula: 4ml
    CH Completzym: 4ml
    CH Root XL: 4ml
    FS z7: 1ml each (2part)

    ROOTS 23 July



    30 July





    Setup in progress
    BASKET FULL OF SURPRISES!
    Aug 1st is the start of the SOG. 8 plants started for 18 to 24 clones.
    Clones will be rooted for an SOG.

    Strain: Mystery GSC Hybrid

    PICS COMMING SOON!

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    I have my flying skull up and running, following directions on chart. So far so good.
     
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    PW, I will be following for sure!
    Thanks again BF for on-site into Dewey and Flying Skull.
    Anticipation to get started has me second guessing myself or chasing my ass.
    Keeping it simple. I hope
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    Update for GSC....

    1 Aug (1400hrs) seeds put in pH well water with z7 and FS Essential Flora Extract



    2 Aug (0800hrs) seed shell begins to split. Seeds are placed in paper towels. Soaked in the same solutions.





    2 Aug (1400hrs) 3 seeds placed in starter cups (Rockwool and Hydroton).
    (1800hrs) 5 seeds added to starter cups.



    There future home.....



    Is the Foot Locker.

    Alien future home...

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    Nice looking buckets furcifer, they're insulated?
     
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    Wayyyyy over my head.....but I'm here anyways to learn from the George foremans of the growing cannabis community. Thanks for that good idea. Heading out back to do that now!! Later bud.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pennywise View Post
    Nice looking buckets furcifer, they're insulated?
    Yes they Are! ☺
    After that early heat wave this spring. 😣
    Hydro gets insul.
    Helps slow the reservoir creep to ambient temps.
    I'll include resevior temp change with other grow data throughout.

    GSC Hybrid are starting to poke out
    Update later. Thanks for stopping by.
     
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    Update on the Alien' s Dewey Home.

    23 days from seeds put in paper towles.

    Finished the covers. Added a 4 inch air stone.





    Modified the 6 inch net cups to except the 2 inch cups.



    All settled in! And looking good!

    NUTRIENTS

    Mixed 1/4 cup dry crystals of Micro, Grow, and Bloom into separate containers with 400ml of water.

    1ml of each combined in 1 gallon of water = 30ppm / 0.03 EC

    First day of nutrients
    (Resivior 1.5 gallons of water)
    1.5 ml Flora Extract
    2.5ml Micro
    2.5ml Grow
    2.5ml Bloom
    1.25ml z7

    EC. 0.03
    ppm 40
    pH 5.57

    Water temp. 66deg F.
    Ambient temp 81deg F.

    Lights T5 (4 each 62000k bulbs, 2 foot)
    Will switch to a MARS HYDRO 48 Reflector in a couple of days.
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    YES! YES! YES! Finally, your skills will give us thrills. I'm so excited, I'm smiling so much. I just had to run here and thank you for the horse pictures, my heart hugged you right away. You know how to tug my heart strings...

    Now I get to bask in your sunlight and learn from your glory. Thanks for having me over, I think I will go feed the horses, talk to the chickens and play with the doggy now. So much to do at your house...
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    Haha my favorite brainiac had come to visit!
    G2HM, you are welcome to partake in this journal...in any way you please.
    Just in time for a quick update.

    Alien Seedlings are 23 days old.
    24 hrs in Deweyponics appears promising.
    Finally have the grow room back in order.





    GSC seedlings in the past 24 hrs





    No. 8 is just starting to push through.

    Next project....SOG tote.
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    2017 Aliens Have Landed! Leaving Behind Elite Ecwam & Deweyponics❤️grow. Love
     
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    Note to self...CFL's are brighter on the side than bottom.(🤔top?
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    Tossed the GSC into the starter tub
    Last night. Roots just sticking out of bottom.

    12 hours later





    SCOG TOTE



    Flex sealed the rivets that affached the handle.



    Installed rubber grommet.



    Holes drilled



    Beginning of a cooler



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