First Grow - 4'x4' Tent - Organic Soil - Nutes & Teas - RO Water & Love - Help Wanted - 2018

HerbnThumb

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Introduction/Background

Hello and welcome to my first grow/journal...thanks for visiting! Before getting into things let me give you a little background. I have limited experience helping and observing some very advanced indoor grows and as a result I got the itch. I am definitely a beginner and looking forward to growing, learning and hopefully helping others along the way.

Below you will find an overview of my planned/proposed setup as well as a section where I'm hoping to get some input before making final decisions. Please give any feedback and ask any questions that come to mind. I hope you enjoy!


Goals

1. High Quality
2. High Yield
3. Clean


Planned Setup

Space: 4' x 4' x 80" (h) Mylar Tent (Flower) and a 2' x 4' x 60" (h) Mylar Tent (veg)

Plant Count: 4 ideally with the possibility of 5 from time to time. I plan to germinate 7-10 regular seeds at a time, however, I will be starting with 4 clones for this grow while I germinate and veg purchased seeds for my 2nd grow.

Strains: I have not decided on strains of the clones for the first run but the first run of purchased seeds (2nd grow) will be a mystery 3-pack from Golden Coast Genetics, which I won't know until I receive as they are being added to an order as a promotion and I will also pop four (4) BG 91' (ONYCD x Bubblegum Chem) from Top Dawg Seeds.

Water: RO System

Lighting: please see below under 'Needs Input'

Flower Tent Environmental Controls:
-Air-Cooled with Vortex 347 S-600 6" Fan Pulling Air (will add Carbon Scrubber for flowering)
-Two (2) 6" Hurricane Clip Interior Fans
-ThermoPro TP60 Digital Hydrometer for monitoring
-Will purchase humidifier and/or dehumidifier as needed

Veg Tent Environmental Controls:
-6" Hurricane Clip Interior Fans; will I need more than this?
-ThermoPro TP60 Digital Hydrometer for monitoring


Needs Input

Lighting: My tentative plan is to purchase two (2) 800w LED (can provide specifics of units minus brand if needed) for the flower tent and one (1) 800W LED of the same brand for the veg tent. Please let me know thoughts/suggestions on these choices...I'm open to HPS/MH but leaning towards LED.

Medium: Organic Soil; leaning towards Promix w/perilite, vermiculite and possibly some worm castings but I'm looking for suggestions/mixes. I want something that will be easy for a beginner to manage.

Nutrients: Organic; leaning to AR but looking for suggestions...I will be utilizing an organic compost tea regiment provided by a friend while I become more versed in teas.

Planter Sizes: My plan is to move from small planters to 5 gallon (underfilled for veg) and then 7 gallon (for flower); how does this sound? Could I go bigger or would it not make much of a difference with space limitations.

Scrogging: Planning on scrogging while in final weeks of veg and a second tier of scrog during flower; please provide thoughts/recommendations on timing etc.

CO2: I'm open to purchasing a CO2 feeding element of some type; please provide thoughts/recommendations on necessity and method. This may have to wait until my 2nd grow due to budget constraints.

Timing: My plan is to receive clones on or just before Jan. 1st and veg for an undetermined amount of time with a focus on maximizing yield while considering space constraints. Please provide thoughts and feedback. Seeds will be popped and begin germination on or around December 20th.


Final Word

I will update with pictures as my equipment is received and final decisions are made but please know I'm super excited and can't tell you'll how appreciative I am for this site and all of you...game on!
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love...help wanted -

Well, I found the Grow journal a few spots down the timeline and I'll be the first to say, I'm subbed for the ride! Not very soil savvy myself, but so far your proposed setup looks like it will produce plenty. For lighting, why not check out some of the sponsors there are some excellent products to look into from mars Hydro, black diamond led perfect sun, and GROWant is another. They all have accounts here and you can communicate personally to all three to find out what will suit your needs. Welcome to :420:
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love...help wanted -

Well, I found the Grow journal a few spots down the timeline and I’ll be the first to say, I’m subbed for the ride! Not very soil savvy myself, but so far your proposed setup looks like it will produce plenty. For lighting, why not check out some of the sponsors there are some excellent products to look into from mars Hydro, black diamond led perfect sun, and GROWant is another. They all have accounts here and you can communicate personally to all three to find out what will suit your needs. Welcome to :420:

Happy to have you! Regardless of your hydroness I'm sure you will be able to add a lot to my grow and I'm very appreciative of your willingness to spend the time. Also, I have and will continue to dig around checkin' out the sponsors offers.

:thanks:
 
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Ill come along for the ride! I love LED and blurple colour, sooooo. I say LED all the way. Sounds like youve got a great plan going on! Looking forward to seeing the setup :) Happy growing!
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love...help wanted -

Ill come along for the ride! I love LED and blurple colour, sooooo. I say LED all the way. Sounds like youve got a great plan going on! Looking forward to seeing the setup :) Happy growing!

:welcome: BudzFreak and very happy you've joined! I just took a look at your grows; I loved the DIY carbon filter. As for my grow, the LED decision has officially been made...I will receive my first 800w this week for the 4'x2' veg tent which will also be arriving arriving this week. I will provide a few flower tent setup pictures by this time next week. The excitement is growing!!
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love...help wanted -

:welcome: BudzFreak and very happy you've joined! I just took a look at your grows; I loved the DIY carbon filter. As for my grow, the LED decision has officially been made...I will receive my first 800w this week for the 4'x2' veg tent which will also be arriving arriving this week. I will provide a few flower tent setup pictures by this time next week. The excitement is growing!!

Thanks! Diy is always fun, Im definitely that kind of person. Yay for led! Blurple to come! Im looking forward to tagging along. :Namaste:
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love - Help Wanted -

Hello and welcome! First and foremost for your viewing pleasure, I've provided a tent and little LED porn at the bottom of this post. Additionally, below I've provided updates to the 'Planned' and 'Needs Input' sections from my original post. If there are any thoughts, questions and/or comments, please let me know.


Updates

Plant Count: I've decided to scratch the idea of clones and start straight from 7 germinated regular seeds.

Strains: I will pop 7 beans which will include a mystery 3-pack from Golden Coast Genetics, which I won't know until I receive as they are being added to an order as a promotion and I will also pop four (4) BG 91' (ONYCD x Bubblegum Chem) from Top Dawg Seeds.

Lighting: I've purchased one (1) 800w LED (pic included) for the veg tent and plan to purchase two (2) more 800w LED's of the same brand for the flower tent (I can provide specifics on the 800w units if requested).

Medium: I've decided to keep the soil as simple as possible; leaning towards Promix w/perlite and some clay balls. I want something that will be easy for a beginner to manage.

Nutrients: I've decided on Nectar of the Gods.

Planter Sizes: My plan is to move from small 3.5" square planters to 7 gallon (slightly under-filled for veg and flower).

Scrogging: I've decided to scratch the idea of scrogging; the motive for this decision is being a beginner I want to learn about the plant/strains without manipulating the plant...I believe this will pay off in the long run for my own knowledge.

CO2: I'm will be purchasing a CO2 feeding element for the flower tent.

Timing: My plan is to germinate on or around December 28th.


Final Word

I will continue to provide info and updates as my equipment is received and final decisions are made but please feel free to reach out with thoughts, comments and questions.


-HerbnThumb

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Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love - Help Wanted -

Subbing up. Love to see some ganja grow.
Warning Cannabis is non addictive. But growing it is hella-addictive.
Welcome to the club.
Happy daze.

D.K.

:welcome: D.K...happy to have you here!! Also, I just took a look through your journal - very nice!!
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love - Help Wanted -

Tried to pm u but just curious bout ur light. Like tge cobs. Brand actual wall watts dies it have seperat veg n bloom swiitches.?? Love the set up gonna sub up if u dont mind. Gonna sit back n watch u knock it out the park!! Great way to start the new year!!
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love - Help Wanted -

Tried to pm u but just curious bout ur light. Like tge cobs. Brand actual wall watts dies it have seperat veg n bloom swiitches.?? Love the set up gonna sub up if u dont mind. Gonna sit back n watch u knock it out the park!! Great way to start the new year!!

:welcome: Pino - happy to have you along for the ride! As for the light, it does have separate veg/bloom switches and the actual draw is 347w at full strength. I know using brand names isn't allowed here unless it's one of the sponsors lights (which it is not), so as soon as I figure out how to direct message you I will send you the brand name as well.


-Herbn
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love - Help Wanted -

:welcome: Pino - happy to have you along for the ride! As for the light, it does have separate veg/bloom switches and the actual draw is 347w at full strength. I know using brand names isn't allowed here unless it's one of the sponsors lights (which it is not), so as soon as I figure out how to direct message you I will send you the brand name as well.


-Herbn



No luck figuring out the direct messaging so I'll say it this way...the name of the brand would be if you misspelled "bloom" by only using one "o" and two "m"'s. I hope this helps.


-Herbn
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love - Help Wanted -

Happy New Year to all!! Welcome back...there are quite a few updates below and some baby pics! As always, if there are any thoughts, questions and/or comments, please let me know.


Updates

Plant Count: I reduced my target plant count from 7 to 6.

Strains: I did not receive my promotional mystery 3-pack from Golden Coast Genetics, so instead I have popped six (6) BG 91' (ONYCD x Bubblegum Chem) from Top Dawg Seeds.

Medium: I settled on Promix HP-CC.

Timing: The germination process started on December 29th with a 14-hour soak followed by 24-48 hours in paper towel and finally into soil and under my light at 30". Since then temps have ranged from 68-78 degrees and RH from 55-70% - thus far 4 have broken then surface (pics below).

Setup
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Top Dawg Package
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Seeds Selected
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#1 After 36 hours in soil
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#2 After 40 hours in soil
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#3 After 40 hours in soil / Missing a cotyledon (my runt and new favorite)
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#5 After 55 hours in soil
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#4 and #6 have still not broken the surface and I'm starting to get a little nervous...hopefully by tomorrow morning we will have 6/6 lift-off!!!


Next Step
I will be lowering the light to 24"ish tomorrow morning and see how the seedlings react. If all 6 have broken the surface by tomorrow evening I will be switching to 18/6 lighting.



-HerbnThumb
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love - Help Wanted -

Hell Yea looking great as the light slection u made!! Lot of people say watch light when they are seedlings but my thought process is like what happens when a seed grows naturally. Not like mother plant bust out a cfl on da wild!! Soon as my girls pop above ground i hit them wit my dormgrow 450 at 24 inches and the veg low and flat like i like it. I like my marijuana girls short and fat!! Lol!! Not like real life tall n thin!! But great work keep it up and read the plants they will tell u what to do but dont make a sudden change u cant observe cause thats how plants die but u got this!!
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love - Help Wanted -

Hell Yea looking great as the light slection u made!! Lot of people say watch light when they are seedlings but my thought process is like what happens when a seed grows naturally. Not like mother plant bust out a cfl on da wild!! Soon as my girls pop above ground i hit them wit my dormgrow 450 at 24 inches and the veg low and flat like i like it. I like my marijuana girls short and fat!! Lol!! Not like real life tall n thin!! But great work keep it up and read the plants they will tell u what to do but dont make a sudden change u cant observe cause thats how plants die but u got this!!

Thank you Pino! I'm trying to be aware of the light but also need the heat to aid sprouting, so that initial setup pic is actually from before the seeds were moved from paper towels (pic below I forgot to include). Prior to breaking the surface I have been keeping the planters on the metal shelf, once a sprout breaks the surface I've moved that planter into the corners of the tent (as the Cree bulbs used for veg are in the dead center of the light this is about a 30 degree angle off of the center of the light concentration). Once the sprouted seedling starts reaching towards the center I have been moving directly under the light.

Does that all sound like a good method?


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Yea that sounds great! Jus read ur girls they will tell u what they need. Jus dont them get overstreched. And when they are seedlings dont keep them to wet cause they will damp off. I jus lost four good seeds to dampening off! But wont happen to me again!! Good luck keep up the great work!!
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love - Help Wanted -

So no new surface breakers this morning but I did have a snow day here in New England and as a result I was left to stare at my babies...I think you had it dead-on Pino, the stretch was on and since I had time to run to Home Depot this is the result.

The New Seedling Setup
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I will check back on them in a couple hours and see how they react to the new setup and light heights.
 
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Long as u manage the heat u can slam them lights close. Like the setup but wit cfl dont b scared to get the light close. We have a bad snow day here in VA also. Gives us time to spend wit girls!!
 
Re: First Grow - 4'x4' Tent/Organic Soil, Nutes & Teas/RO Water/Love - Help Wanted -

Long as u manage the heat u can slam them lights close. Like the setup but wit cfl dont b scared to get the light close. We have a bad snow day here in VA also. Gives us time to spend wit girls!!

Dropped them down to about 2" and they are looking happy...thanks!
 
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