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    Re: Holy Tincture!

    Kingsnake235 - Belated thanks for the +rep. I just noticed it. Apologies for the timing.
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    Re: Holy Tincture!

    Hey guys, just a little update on my tincture made with Bacardi 151.

    As mentioned previously, I found that it was effective under the tongue, but with perhaps 1-2 full droppers' worth. Bit of a sting though, that volume of tinc.

    Well as it happens, I got sick recently with a 'cold'/upper respiratory virus. My usual practice for these infections, is to consume honey and lemon, among other things. I had been reading a bit more with regards to tinctures and saw someone mention evaporating the alcohol away in tea. I decided to add some tincture to my honey/lemon water. You're right Onkruid, that citrus goes well. I find the taste quite pleasant with honey and lemon, especially Tasmanian leatherwood honey.

    But the main surprise - this tinc seems far more potent taken this way! One full dropper hits harder and overall feels more sustained than the under-the-tongue method. The lack of alcohol burn under the tongue is a bonus. Takes longer to kick in of course but worth the wait.

    Hoping to trial a hot glycerin extraction soon so will update you on how that goes.

    'Hot' lemon and water I mean, boiled in a kettle water, so temp would be 75-85degC when tincture added to cup
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    Re: Holy Tincture!

    Wow really cool post and packed with heaps of info, thanks

    i did this as a trial for e pens, though the method is the virtually the same, Read a bit on line and watched a few youtube videos

    though only experimented in smaller quantities.

    you get your bud ,mull it up , and put in oven ( i cant remember the exact degrees but wasnt hot enough to burn or vap the matter but enough to change the compound) for an hour. once done, put in a sealed glass jar in a hot water and depending on the strength of the solution you wanted (the vids and docs i read suggested 3ml 5ml and 10ml per gram) and leave the water over heat and shake every 15 or so mins. do this for an hour and press the contents for oil. Ha not having any stockings available i used some cut open teabags and the backs of two spoons.

    im sure u could get more having a better press but was getting about 3ml's back from a 5 ml run. i was using both Propylene Glycol and Vegetable Glycerin, 50/50. The tincture was sweet to taste and worked well as a topical rub, as a vape, was getting nice mild hits though the pens i were using were not strong enough or both the mixture was a little too thick to vape properly with..perhaps if i thined it out more .

    All the est and good luck
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    Kbomb- Thanks for your great update! Sounds like a really nice tea you've concocted. Makes perfect sense as an ideal evaporative medium too... With awesome honey and lemon to boot.

    So interesting is your experience with it's onset affecting you to a greater degree than when taken in through the salivary glands. It's unknown to me the mechanism(s) that allow for it's behavior in this way. Could be the heat, tea, honey, lemon or any combination therein. I know that when consuming edibles their onset can be accelerated by eating foods with higher fat content. As THC is lipidic (insoluble in water, but soluble in fat), this makes sense to me. What I don't get and am very pleased for you about, is the enhanced potency effect.

    You've not only stumbled onto a great recipe, you've found a better, more economical delivery method for yourself. Well done!
    Looking forward to you regaling us with your upcoming glycerin exploits!

    Hope you're on the mend!


    W1zard- Thank you for sharing that wisdom. FYi -- The oven process you mentioned is called decarboxylation, which removes carbon dioxide and strips a carbon atom from the chain. This normally occurs in an instant when smoking as the temperature conducts this process on the fly. In order to, for lack of a better term 'activate' the pot for oral consumption, it must first be decarb'ed. Lower, consistent temps are key here. Too low and it won't be effective. Too high and it will vape out the goodness. 220°F is the number I go by.

    Interesting still is the use of water for isolation/concentration. I just don't get it's inherent insolubility in water producing similar, if not greater efficacy. Time to dust off the chemistry books.

    Great idea using tea bags as a filter. Probably one of the best paper filters. Certainly one I overlooked. Thanks for that tip!
    Having used coffee filters in the past I quickly became disappointed by the loss of liquid through absorption and switched to panty hose.

    Wish I had some experience to impart to you over the use of vapes, but I use a PAX with dry product only.

    Best to you in your discovery endeavors with vaping!
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    Happy to report that I am on the mend indeed thanks Onkruid.

    Have had a go at a glycerin tinc (just posted in the 'Methods of Use' like this thread). Will play around with it some more, but initially i'd say, 'meh' with regards to duration of onset and potency. Back to the drawing board....
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    Meh, huh. Looking forward to reading your thread to learn what's going on. Love that drawing board though. It has a way of making the greatest successes from even the worst of failures. Trial and error... You'll get it dialed.
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    Re: Holy Tincture!

    Hey Onkruid long time no chat - just a little update here for you and for all others looking to gather more information.

    Recently made another couple of tincs. Still used bacardi 151, and your method of freezer for 2wks, shaking around once a day.

    I had 2 strains recently harvested - Critical auto and Bubba Kush auto. Wasn't brave enough to decarb for longer than 30min at 120deg C.

    14g of each, separately in different jars, into 100mls bacardi 151 in each jar. 2 weeks in freezer. Strained ~94mls through cheesecloth.

    1dropper = 0.75mls. Placed in mouth it's not pleasant - stings and i'm not much of a rum fan. Preferred administration is in mug with lemon juice freshly squeezed, and boiled water added. Some honey to sweeten. Both actually pretty quick onset on empty stomach - feeling it in ~20mins. 3 droppers' worth and that's a good few hrs of a pleasant and intermittently waxing/waning buzz.

    Next plan: decarb for longer - probably an hour minimum at 120deg C. And a higher concentration weed:alcohol. Tempted to use a drink I prefer - scotch. Have some 48.5% so might give that a go too. Might be just the trick, on the rocks :-)

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