desiBud420
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I've been working on some clones that were successful 2 months ago. I've gone ahead and tried to make clones of the clone. All my attempts have failed and I cant seem to understand why. I've done everything as I did with the first clones I ever made, and there seems to be something I cannot detect that is eating away/killing my plants from the INSIDE.
This first pic is how I had successful results inside yogurt pots (holes at bottom and few at sides near bottom for good drainage and air circulation). The top part is a ziplock ive taped and sealed airtight so all I really have to do is open the ziplock, spray under the leaves, 1 quick spray of moisture right before I close the ziplock and let them continue with an 18/6 cycle along with my other plants in Veg at the moment. I spray under leave once for lights on, and once before lights off.
I recall leaving initially leaving the successful clones in the dark for 2 days for roots to get active as some posts suggested, which worked fine, but lately i have not left them unattended day or night due to the browning effect speeding up in the 2 days dark period once cloned and set into soil with rooting gel/powder.
I keep an eye out for this browning/mushy syndrome that occurs at the cut leaf tips, youngest leaves, and even internal of stems.
As you can see the browning/mushy part that occurs. I have no idea what or where its coming from, but ive deduced its from my soilmix. I used clone soil that failed, and having baked it for ashort period to kill anything in there that might have been left undetected, I used the soil after athorough dry and areation indoors.
I must confess, this problem went unnoticed through first 7 clones. I used an old 2B pencil for ones of my clones to give it support as it was lanking over. I discovered that the pencil odor/presence kept the browning/mushyness at bay with this clone and subsequent ones I tried with pencil support, but only delayed the overall clones demise from browning and softening.
Eventually the ziplock smelt of mould when opened to spray, and something like half-day-old-milk left outside. I suspected a bacteria/mould of sorts, but I thought why since Ive baked the soil at 180'C for 10 mins that shouldnt be causing this. Then I tried another method without ziplocks under a plastic jar (base cut off, lid left on). I would spray the clone as normal, water, and then give the jar a good spray and quickly cover the clone to reserve as much moisture before it leaked out from around the loose bottom edges. EVEN THEN the clones died, and had that slight spoilt milk smell around the inside of the plastic jar (im thinking plastics are NOT a good medium to use, I cant find anything like a humidity dome here, but I dont think that would help my problem, I feel its soil related).
Baffled still, Ive come to NOT fully watering my yogurt pots right after planting. Just a gentle top-soil spray and a bit more around the stem area so soil tightens up and the clone doesnt move around in loose soil irritaing the roots not to grow. So far so good, not even using a wooden pencil (except one clone), but I would like to pick someones brain into what the browning/mushy effect was (bacteria/mould) where it was coming from (i suspect my soil and lack of ventilation for clone/bacteria to chill out).
For those wondering what went on under the soil-hood for the ONLY clone that rooted but died in 9 days (under ziplock conditions), here it is. Im still baffled at whats killing my clones. Im behind on starting flowering for the BIG momma clone I'm snipping cuttings off of, and I sure would like a successful 2 clones before i switch light cycles.
PS - This isnt the only plant my clones have died from. Ive also attempted Bubblegummer clonings, those all died as well. Same symptoms.
This first pic is how I had successful results inside yogurt pots (holes at bottom and few at sides near bottom for good drainage and air circulation). The top part is a ziplock ive taped and sealed airtight so all I really have to do is open the ziplock, spray under the leaves, 1 quick spray of moisture right before I close the ziplock and let them continue with an 18/6 cycle along with my other plants in Veg at the moment. I spray under leave once for lights on, and once before lights off.
I recall leaving initially leaving the successful clones in the dark for 2 days for roots to get active as some posts suggested, which worked fine, but lately i have not left them unattended day or night due to the browning effect speeding up in the 2 days dark period once cloned and set into soil with rooting gel/powder.
I keep an eye out for this browning/mushy syndrome that occurs at the cut leaf tips, youngest leaves, and even internal of stems.
As you can see the browning/mushy part that occurs. I have no idea what or where its coming from, but ive deduced its from my soilmix. I used clone soil that failed, and having baked it for ashort period to kill anything in there that might have been left undetected, I used the soil after athorough dry and areation indoors.
I must confess, this problem went unnoticed through first 7 clones. I used an old 2B pencil for ones of my clones to give it support as it was lanking over. I discovered that the pencil odor/presence kept the browning/mushyness at bay with this clone and subsequent ones I tried with pencil support, but only delayed the overall clones demise from browning and softening.
Eventually the ziplock smelt of mould when opened to spray, and something like half-day-old-milk left outside. I suspected a bacteria/mould of sorts, but I thought why since Ive baked the soil at 180'C for 10 mins that shouldnt be causing this. Then I tried another method without ziplocks under a plastic jar (base cut off, lid left on). I would spray the clone as normal, water, and then give the jar a good spray and quickly cover the clone to reserve as much moisture before it leaked out from around the loose bottom edges. EVEN THEN the clones died, and had that slight spoilt milk smell around the inside of the plastic jar (im thinking plastics are NOT a good medium to use, I cant find anything like a humidity dome here, but I dont think that would help my problem, I feel its soil related).
Baffled still, Ive come to NOT fully watering my yogurt pots right after planting. Just a gentle top-soil spray and a bit more around the stem area so soil tightens up and the clone doesnt move around in loose soil irritaing the roots not to grow. So far so good, not even using a wooden pencil (except one clone), but I would like to pick someones brain into what the browning/mushy effect was (bacteria/mould) where it was coming from (i suspect my soil and lack of ventilation for clone/bacteria to chill out).
For those wondering what went on under the soil-hood for the ONLY clone that rooted but died in 9 days (under ziplock conditions), here it is. Im still baffled at whats killing my clones. Im behind on starting flowering for the BIG momma clone I'm snipping cuttings off of, and I sure would like a successful 2 clones before i switch light cycles.
PS - This isnt the only plant my clones have died from. Ive also attempted Bubblegummer clonings, those all died as well. Same symptoms.
