"Lowryder & Lowlife Bean Talk!"

Jimbo

Jimbo

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I want to start this thing off by saying how cool these auto-flowering plants are. I have found them to be quite amazing & they deliver every thing the breeders say they do. Like, "from seed to harvest in 8-10 weeks" is dead on the money. And the potency is just as advertised. Those guys have these things down to a science. I am currently (as some of you already know) growing 3 NYC Dieselryders and have grown to full harvest; Lowryder #2 with good success. I have determined, as of today in fact, that those 3 DR's are all males :(..., But that is ok too, I'm not going to say that I'm not kinda bummed about it though, because I was looking forward to some juicy 17%-19% THC level nugs! But, I do however plan on letting these 3 grow out as to collect the male pollen for more bean production in the near future . Not to mention, I may even get some decent hash out of these males. I started 4 new DR's yesterday morning and 2 of them have already cracked and now I'm just waiting on the other two to crack. I currently have several Lowlife beans to try out as well. With plans on getting them all eventually. I have read in other posts negative feedback on Original Lowryder and that it lacks potency so I have not tried acquire them, but I want all the others added to my arsenal. I now have auto-lemon skunk, auto-hindu kush, and I've received "just today" auto-blueberry & a freebie 5 pack of what they are calling; "flumpy lowdown mystery auto's"...hmm...makes you wonder doesn't it? I started this thread for those who are interested in discussing these wonderful automatic flowering beauties, and to share ideas on how to grow them. This thread will also be a great tool for those people who are interested in trying them out but are skeptical and want real time info. "My friend" and our wonderful news mod "Herb Fellow" has grown these things with great success as well and I'm sure he will be stopping by to give advice and share his "auto" grow stories as well. I hope everyone enjoys this thread as it is a portal to talk about these unique & stealthy strains of our beloved herb...enjoy!!!:yummy:

Jimbo E:peace:
 
Re: "Lowryder & Lowlife Bean Talk!!!"

OFFICIAL LOWRYDER GROW GUIDE (10/04) - written by the Joint doctor

Preferred growing methods

Indoors, Lowryder performs very well in soil mix (pots or beds) or in soil-less systems, where it can be cultivated from seed to bud in two months — 18 hours of light per day is recommended all the way through. Switching light cycles down to 12 hours may diminish yields and shorten the already-short life cycle slightly. Because Lowryder's life cycle is so brief, cloning becomes impracticable, so only plants from seed are grown. By default, Lowryder is a great choice for sea-of-green.

Because flowering plants and seedlings can be maintained in the same room, Lowryder presents new possibilities for the small to medium home grower, including "staggering" your indoor harvest. A true continuous harvest system may be achieved by planting new plants periodically to replace the ones that have been harvested. This ensures that a grow
room is always full and always producing fresh bud, and one never has too much work at once. Click here to learn more about the Joint Doctor's "1-2-3" continuous harvest method.

For best results, place jiffy pellet or plant directly into 1-2 gal.pots. Alternatively, start in 4-inch peat pots, then place
rootbound females into a plant bed after sexing (at approx. 17-20 days) — this may result in smaller plants than the first method. Grown under a 12 to 24 hour/daylight cycle from start to finish. I recommend 18 hours per day; this can be decreased to 16 after the first month with no loss of yield.


Outdoors: sow directly into soil after soaking, in 2 gal. pots or plant beds. New stands of Lowryder can be planted up until late summer, to ensure a continuous harvest outdoors. Avoid transplanting if you can, but do so if plants become rootbound. Rogue (remove) males at three weeks.


Growth Factors

Lowryder is extremely versatile in that it can be cultivated in virtually any climate or grow environment. In fact, it has pushed the envelope of growing, enabling early harvests in unlikely places like Finland, the North West Territories, and other northern, short-season, or high altitude areas. It is also well-adapted to backyard gardens, windowsills and patios where plants can be easily concealed because of their tiny size.

Nothing will mature earlier or faster than Lowryder! When other varieties have barely begun flowering, Lowryder outdoor growers are kicking up their feet and already enjoying their fresh harvests.


Characteristics

Lowryder virtually does away with the vegetative growth stage: it passes almost immediately from the seedling stage to the flowering period. To our knowledge, Lowryder has the shortest known life cycle and height in the cannabis species.
Male plants may be identified as such after approx. 17-20 days, while females show themselves a couple days later. Plants will even flower under a continuous light regime.

Lowryder females usually grow no taller than 16-20 inches. 12-16 inches is typical. Light intensity, pot size, and proper pH all play an important role in determining the size of plants at maturity — the better the conditions, the bigger the yield. Plants produce one main cola, although when they receive adequate light, lower nodes branch out profusely.

Yield and height are dependent on obvious growth factors. For example, plants kept in small peat cups on a windowsill may yield as little as 1 g. and grow no taller than 6 inches, with no branching whatsoever; while a plant in a 4-gallon container under high-intensity lighting and good cultivation methods, can turn into a profusely branched, two-foot wide 45-gram bud monster.


Fertilizer: During the first two weeks of growth, Lowryder should be weekly light feedings of a "grow" type nutrient solution, with micronutrients. When plants pass into full flower, they should be started on a "bloom" regime for weeks 4 through 6. Mycorise-type biological amendments (root stimulators) seem to increase growth significantly.

Average flowering time
Indoors: 40-45 days (after a 15-20 day seedling stage)
Outdoors: ripens approx. 60 days after seed is sown.
Note: 100% of plants display the auto-flowering genotype.

AVERAGE HEIGHT
12 inches. Minimum: 5 inches, maximum 16 inches (very light-dependent, with slight phenotype variations).

YIELD
Depending on light and other factors, Lowryder yields up to 45 g — one report even claims 96 g for one exceptional plant under hydroponics. Extremely light-dependent in terms of yield. Without adequate conditions, plants may stay extremely small, almost comically so — but still produce a decent smoke.

Buds are compactand close-quartered, slightly irregular and variable, with high bud/leaf ratio. Thick pistils, with orange coloration, and medium-sized, individual calyxes. Tends to be top-heavy indoors. Typically, budding sites start very close to the ground.

High is uplifting, surprisingly strong. Well-rounded. Best suited for outdoor activities. Smoke is smooth with pleasant, earthy undertones. Smell is not overpowering. Unique flavor, with echoes of NL and William's Wonder in the bouquet.

JD on nutes:

I get alot of requests for more info on nutrient needs for Lowryder. This is a hard question to answer as it depends how much money you want to shell out for nutrient products.

I get Advanced Nutrient products (many say the best) at a discount and I have adapted their formula for my own use. Advanced Nutrients provides a complete program for an 8-week grow and has a guide for different growing mediums.

For the first two weeks, I use what they recommend for seedlings.

Then I use the Micro 2+ Light Feeding program for the rest of their life cycle. I usually skip week 3 and 5 to bring it down to a 6 week program which I begin as soon as LRs are sexed.

I know it sounds complicated. Obviously all this is not needed.

As a rule of thumb, treat Lowryders like seedlings for the first 2-3 weeks, then switch them onto a light bloom program. So, you feed them a seedling/transplanting formula the first 2 weeks, then switch to a bloom fertilizer with something like a 5-10-5 or 1-2-1 ratio of N-P-K.

Give them a feeding of bloom fertilizer every week on weeks 3,4,5,6. Just pH-balanced water on week 7. Flushing solution on week 8.

...or for organic freaks, just plant into organic soil mix with bat guano mixed in... and put away the calculator... .
 
Re: "Lowryder & Lowlife Bean Talk!!!"

Definitely interested in this. Grown LR before and was pleased. Been wondering about the actual yield and so forth of these auto hybrids, and more so if there are more issues with micro phenos and or sensitivity or if they're [pretty stable. Saw that Diesel Ryder and Auto White Russian...I'm behind..but I'm all ears.
 
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Well...I just harvested 2 dieselryders that I had pollenated and all I can say is...WOW...what a score on the bean return...I must have gotten at least 75-100 seeds out of those two...and I mean fully matured tiger striped seeds! I'm very pleased!
I'm liking the smoke from them too...very strong and long lasting Indica type sleepy buzz, and a fruity flavor almost just like the LR#2 as far as taste, but a much more downer buzz than those LR#2's.

I will be trying out those auto AK47's next, but I have to wait for one last LR#2 to finish in about 2-3 more weeks so I can clean and make room for the auto AK's.

My plans are to grow 5 of them in a single large tote box under 24/0 lighting. They are supposed to have a very deep but not too wide of a root structure, so that's why I'm using the tote.

With all that I have going on in the action forums, I'm not sure if I'll be getting a grow journal going or not, but I'll try to stick a few pics of them in from time to time...cool?
 
Re: "Lowryder & Lowlife Bean Talk!!!"

is the diesalryders like the nycd?like does it have the same potency and does is smell very strong n shit?
 
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doegrow said:
is the diesalryders like the nycd?like does it have the same potency and does is smell very strong n shit?
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Yes...it's auto NYCD...I've never tried the original nycd, so I can't compare the potency, but I do know that it seems to be more potent than LR2.
I didn't notice any smell while they were growing, but the harvested product is very sweat smelling.

Here is the run down on them from the joint doctor;

Genetics: New York City Diesel x Lowryder #2 Variety: sativa/indica/ruderalis Type: stabilized hybrid Harvest Date: 9 weeks from seed Flowering Period: 6+ weeks THC Content: 17-19% A potent, extremely resinous and tasty autoflowering plant. An inbred cross of Soma's Diesel and Lowryder #2, this strain normally produces one main cola with less branching than LR #1 or #2. Typical of the Joint Doctor's strains, Diesel Ryder flowers automatically at 3-4 weeks and finishes in 8-9 from seed. A small proportion of this strain will grow significantly taller than other individuals. A good choice for closets and small indoor set-ups. Beware: plants give off a powerful odour during flowering (<- I never noticed)
 
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aite thanks jimbo.by the way do you got any review or anything about la confidential?i seen it in a few mags lookin very pretty.
 
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doegrow said:
aite thanks jimbo.by the way do you got any review or anything about la confidential?i seen it in a few mags lookin very pretty.
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Do a word search to see if it comes up, if not you can contact one of the grow mods to further your search.
I can't recall right off hand which breeder carries those.
There are a few free thinking members floating around in the grow forums that will know as well...no worries :smokin:
 
Re: "Lowryder & Lowlife Bean Talk!!!"

Hi Jimbo,

I am extremely interested in the diesel lowryder.
You have a great collection of information that I am thankful for, but my only question is of the potency of smell that a budding DLR produces. Do you think that I would be fine growing these in a crowded community (indoor), or would the smell be noticeable to people on the street?

I am interested to see what you have to say.
Thanks
 
Re: "Lowryder & Lowlife Bean Talk!!!"

Speaking of auto-flowerers, I'm starting up a grow with a few Snowryder's as my first test of all the new auto flowerers...We'll see how it compares
 

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