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Graytail;2444147 said:

420brother;2443674 said:

the way you train your plants is impressive brother, first time i saw it was in your destroyer and now that i go through your journals i see that you got a unique way of training their skeleton into the same shape every time!

you should do a guide about it and educate us

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duggan;2443968 said:

Thanks Gray....looks just like I thought it would. You lst'd her and or topped her ?Do ya know what caused the leaves to start to fade like that? Cheers Gray!

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I usually just LST my vegging girls. At some point when they're in vigorous veg mode and have enough branching to work with, I'll bend the top over and fix it in place. This would be a few nodes past the alternate stage. It really depends on the branching pattern of the strain. Then I'll keep bending the highest tops away and down, letting the lower ones get some of the growth hormone so they can catch up. This opens the middle and slows the fast tops. I usually get 12-15 tops and I keep adjusting them daily so they stay equal. It's "gentle" LST, although it really messed with the apical hormones, so it reduces stretch going into bloom. At first I wondered why mine don't stretch worth a crap. When it goes well, I get 3+ oz from a two foot plant, and I can fit 6-7 of them in my 4x4.

The key to my technique is the constant bending of the highest tops. Usually, I just bend the top couple inches down and away in a short arc like a shepherd's hook, but I don't tie them down. The top will recover quickly - in an hour or so - but the apical hormones get redistributed so that the lower branches grow faster. The lower nodes of that branch will also grow faster. Another method is to bend the entire branch away from the plant at the base which will lower it, too. Eventually they're equal and grow at an equal rate until bloom.




Here's a post from my first journal, too ...

As a general rule, I like to watch a complex system and look for the inflection points that will make it more efficient. That philosophy crosses a lot of genres, from process engineering to caring for plants to teaching. So I don't like the idea of heavy defol and mainlining, etc. Instead, I try to simply guide a plant in the direction I want it to go, looking for its own natural tendencies and assisting or resisting them.

I usually end up using LST. Multiple topping seems to inhibit the plants I grow, and simple topping doesn't get me the large canopy I want. So when the youngster is about a foot tall it's been growing alternate nodes for a few cycles, and I look for a place and direction I can bend the top to bring it lower than a group of side branches. Since I've done it so often now, I'll do some small cleanup like clipping off the side branch under the bend as well as that fan. I'll push any tall lower branches into the center of the plant which brings them higher. Sometimes I'll twist the bent top as it grows so each pair of side stems stay on the sides instead of top and bottom - that gets a lot of tops. I'll usually fix that bent top in place and then bend and fiddle with the other side branches several times a day as they grow from the higher allocation of growth hormone they're getting. It's foolproof - the tip that's even slightly above the others will grow fastest. Every time one branch grows taller, I'll bend the top 3 inches or so outward and down into a curl. They recover in a matter of hours, and I do it again and again until they stay there. This will often allow a secondary side branch to reach the same height as its tip, so I get mulitple equal branches from one main one. I like to grow them to about 14 inches over 60 days, and I'll usually end up with 10-15 equal apicals when I flip it. Since the growth hormones are so evenly distributed, I'll usually get less than a double in stretch.

It's low stress, but the natural growth pattern is still seriously diverted, so growth does noticeably slow. But that also makes a nice full canopy with a mature root system, and good yields for such small plants.


Here's a pic that shows my technique fairly well.

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