I WAS AT MY LOCAL HYDRO SHOP AND COULD YOU BELEIVE THAT THE GUY AT THE COUNTER TOLD ME THAT WHO EVER TOLD ME YU COULD VEGG WITH AN HPS WAS AN ASSHILE.I TOLD HIM THAT I HAD READ ED ROSENTHALS BOOK AND HE SAID YU COULD USE AN HPS.. THE GUY AT THE STORE TOLD ME HE DIDNT EVEN KNOW WHO ED WAS..I WAS BLOWN AWAY,I MEAN ISNT HE WELL KNOWN/ ps. sorry about the caps. i forgot..