Judge Harris Says My Valid Recommendation "NO GOOD"

RedBeard4u

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Judge Harris Says My Valid
Recommendation “NO GOOD”
By Red Beard June 09, 2010


Judge Leland Harris Dept 107, Van Nuys Division of Los Angeles County court system today decided that the valid recommendation that I brought to court was no good. Judge Harris told me that the court would only accept recommendations from doctors from UCLA, & USC. “He said, “Reputable Doctors” I told him that I was unaware that under California law that there were any distinctions between doctors. He told me, “that there were to many sham doctors out there that will give a recommendation to anyone who wanted it”. I would now have to have a good doctor at USC or UCLA agree with the “not” so good or ‘Not” good enough doctor that I went to for my evaluation. Then they need to white that down on their letterhead, to be taken to court. This is the equivalent to, “bring me the wicked witch of the west’s broom stick”.

I though that this must have been a joke. What did he just say?

I brought for the courts consideration all of my prescriptions. I am on 9 different Rx drugs to deal with a host of ailments. Heart, Cholesterol, Diabetes, Blood Pressure, Depression, Ocular Pressure (Glaucoma)—all of which I brought to the court on UCLA stationary. Judge Harris did not even want to see it. I told him that I had brought them. All he was concerned with was my medical marijuana recommendation, and the doctor from which it came.

I thought there were laws in place to prevent me from having my medical history and medications from being public knowledge. Why is it that the court wants to see more? I use medical marijuana for depression. That is what I told my doctor in 2008 when I got my first medical recommendation and that is what I told my doctor last week when I got my most current recommendation. Is my whole metal health history going to be made a matter of record? The doctor in whom I choose to put my confidence is going to be questioned by a criminal court judge? What if I had not been the one to ask for a court hearing on this matter? What if I had been stopped and sited by a police officer? I would have showed up in front of Judge Harris with my valid, current recommendation—and because it was not written by a doctor that “this” judge recognizes as a “GOOD” doctor I would be treated with no consideration being given to proposition 215.

So what will become of me? I will continue on with my 3 years of probation. As a condition of my probation reading:
 Not to use or possess any narcotics, dangerous or restricted drugs or associated paraphernalia, except with valid prescription, and stay away from places where users, buyers or sellers congregate, except in an authorized drug-counseling program.

Now the first time my probation officer wants a urine test to be sure that I am not on speed, or ****** it is going to show that I have been consuming marijuana. My freedom and liberty are at risk if I don’t have this second special Judge Leland Harris recommendation from a good doctor at USC or UCLA that says that it is okay for me to use medical marijuana for the treatment of depression.

To start with UCLA and USC are medical hospitals. I use medical marijuana for a mental illness. So I would not be able to find a psychiatrist there that is willing to see me and go down the “yellow brick road” of Judge Harris

I am not a rich man. I don’t have the money to get a layer. But I know that this is wrong. Now I am really depressed.
 
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Holy crap dude!!! How did you end up in court in the first place? It's criminal court, so you might not wish to say. I thought any police couldn't arrest you with a valid rec. Since they can check your card on the spot, I can't think of how you ended up in court having to give your card and MMJ info and health info? No matter what, this is so very wrong!

I'm new too and have been looking for legal advice also. There is a lawyer you can call thought medicann, but she is busy. At least leave a message.

My local dispensary is having a meeting of legal advisers tomorrow. They get together and discuss things like this and people like us can show up for free and ask questions. I know i have a bunch too. I know in more mmj friendly areas, the dispensaries have daily classes in all sorts of issues. If you have any quality dispensaries within driving distance, perhaps they have classes, legal consultants or oyther free services that can help you.

It would seem like this is an easy case for a lawyer, just my opinion. That judge needs a big slap on the wrist and a better look at the law and your rights. Surely some lawyer would love to straighten this man out. I wonder how often he gets away with such things? I guess in a criminal court, drug use is so common, they assume everyone uses them and that legal mmj is just an excuse... I'm sure there are a lot of doctors giving scripts to anyone with $$$, but this is not your problem or fault. Shouldn't the judge just go after the doctor he thinks is no good? That would be too hard for the judge, so take it out on the patients. I guess in criminal court, they can drag your medical history into it, if it relates to why you in the court... Did you not have a public defender appointed to you for this trial or whatever your there for? Not that the public defenders are all that great, but with a judge out of line like that, but I couldn't see any lawyer sitting by and letting his client be treated like this. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My final opinion (LOL) is that no matter what reason your were in criminal court, even it you robbed a bank or killed 20 people, you are not in the wrong or responsible for that doctor who gave you MMJ rec. If the judge has an issue with this doc, he needs to deal with that some other way and time.

PS if you're anywhere near Solano county, the ASA lawyer meeting is tomorrow at 6. OM me and I'll try to check this before that meeting in case you are in this area. I was told to bring my pile of questions here...

If you can get the West Coast Cannabis free mag, you might find places to call for help in there.

Good luck!
 
Call NORML. Look at their list of lawyers, and call some of them and explain your situation. This is a huge rights violation and you cannot let this die and that judge get away with this!! I know you don't have money, but NORML eats situations like this for breakfast. This is right up their ally. Get the word out. Don't delay.

This is bullshit. Let me know what I can do to help. Know too many people who have been bent over by the law and done nothing. This case applies to all of us. Keep us posted but do not wait, get in communication with NORML.
 
I would think that your trial is NOT the appropriate place for this judge to grind his ax against the CA boards and governing bodies that certify and police his state's doctors. He does, I suppose, have a valid point - but the fact that this very point has caused him to be prejudicial in your case is grounds for him to recuse himself.
 
Take him to court ! your rights were stomped on !
 
RedBeard4u, my friend I am 110% on your side and:thanks:for sharing this with us. Before I go any further I want to let u and all readers too I am also in court after being Busted by local cops overzealous to abuse their power and behave like Nazi Stormtroopers but that is another thread. I want to say I am unfamiliar with CA Law but do know some Constitutional Law, and HIPPA Law. Any Judge or Magistrate actively sitting may order or request ANY pertinent information regarding the case before him. This includes but is not limited to all Health (mental or physical), finances, phone records, marriage, divorce, crimminal, probation, prison, birth death etc. etc. etc. especially when you are claiming safe harbor behind licenses or documents before them. Many of the newer MMJ States (RI among them) require that the card holder have a "bona-fide Patient/ Dr relationship" where he saw you at a minimum several times and ascertained the benefits of Medical Marijuana outweigh the health risks and recommends this as a therapy. Any judge may ask this and it is within the scope of his purview to do so. In addittion (he/she) may or may not, based on personal or work experience, render decisions based on these very experiences or interpretations of what he sees as abuse or violating the spirit of the Law. I believe you that indeed MMJ helps allay conditions and or symptoms of your afforementioned illnesses. So in order to enjoy protection under The Compassion Use Act and other California State Laws that protect you I think if you proved that your recommendation was indeed from your Primary Care Doctor or associatted specialist the Court would be compelled to accept your recommendation knowing it was obtained respecting the spirit of the Law to which you are seeking refuge behind. I am not trying to be argumentative nor offensive and I am with you and share your outrage and believe you should not have to go thru this but unfortunately in California there are girls wearing G-strings with placards on advertising free OG Kush with your Dr's recommendation. I am sure that is where this judge is coming from so he probably has some experience with those facilities and knows them to be reputable and above reproach.
I wish you luck with this and I would make the appointments neccessary just to show you are legit and have nothing to fear.
Keep us posted.:blunt:
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I am not a rich man. I don't have the money to get a layer. But I know that this is wrong. Now I am really depressed.

My condolences to you RedBeard! Keep your head up as best as you can. In time and hopefully soon this will sort itself out. Sorry you even have to go through it.
 
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