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    Sugar Water?

    Does adding sugar to the water you give your plant help at all? I've heard alot of talk about this but never found out the anwser ....
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    Re: Sugar Water ?

    Good organic soil contains mychorrizae, micro-organisms that benefit the plant by helping the roots absorb nutrients.
    Like yeasts, mychorrizae like sugars.
    I wouldn't use regular table sugar though. I use unsweetened pineapple juice, other growers use molassas.
    You don't need much. During the latter half of flowering I add 1 tablespoon of pineapple juice per gal/water.
    Adding sugars especially helps during the "flush", the last 2 weeks before harvest when you stop using fertilizer for good-tasting bud.
    Cut this amt. in 1/2 if you are growing in containers, and don't use during veg.
    Don't use sugars if you are growing hydro.

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    Re: Sugar Water ?

    Thanks alot, Never heard of pineapple juice ... have to try it next year!
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    Over the years I've heard lots of simply untrue "tips" on growing weed.
    -Like hanging a plant upside down or plunging the roots into boiling water causes "thc to rush to the buds" to make it more potent.
    Not true. THC is made at the bud sites, it doesn't "hide" in the roots or stalk.
    -Stressing a plant by cutting off water or keeping a plant in total darkness for days before harvest "makes the plant think it's dying and it makes more THC".
    Not true. For top quality buds keep the plant in the best of health. Not enough water causes a plant to wilt and that's detrimental to it's health.
    -I've heard people recommend the following additives:
    birth control pills
    anti-depressents
    baby formula
    beer
    menstrual blood
    metal shavings
    The only ones that would "work is beer (because it's sweet) and blood (because it contains N). But there are other much better things to add that are cheaper (in the case of beer) and less disgusting (in the case of mentrual blood).

    Other things I've heard of people doing is driving a nail through the meristem to supply minerals. This helps a little but not because of added nutrients. You can accomplish the same thing by breaking the hurd which makes the plant stronger and aids in nutrient distribution.
    Some people resommend "beating up " the plant. Again, the only way this might help is through breaking the hurd, but it's negative side-effects outweigh any benefits.

    One thing that's NOT a myth, and something I recommend for outdoor grows is adding a little human piss to the nutrient solution. Not much--like 2 or 3 oz. per gal/water. But not if your on chem meds or use narcotics and not the first whiz of the day.

    A new one I just heard a few days ago is to remove the outer bark from the lowest 1" of the meristem, just above ground level.
    The guy that told me this claims it causes an explosive increase of THC.

    THC exists primarily to make pollen stick. Once a plant has been pollinated it takes at least 3 weeks to make seeds, and seed production requires a lot of energy, so the plant won't "suddenly" make more THC if it "thinks" it will be dead in a matter of a few days.

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    Re: Sugar Water ?

    isnt pineapple juice acidic? naturally?

    i been tryin to read up on this tech.

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    Re: Sugar Water ?

    yeah but weed can withstand a lil acid

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    I like that this area is called "Dispelling Growing Myths", but people say these things are working....

    Think of those microorganisms in dirt....how much sugar, be it glucose, fructose, or even sucrose....you really aren't going to find it in dirt. Too much stuff lives on this above the dirt, from insects to yeasts. It's not going into dirt. You can put this stuff into your plants, but whatever you might think, it ain't gonna help, but for the maggots!

    And THC isn't to trap pollen. A lot of good pollen would do trapped on a leaf. The THC evolved long after this "higher plant" had developed its very successful reproductive strategy. A lot of other plants don't have THC, but get pollenated anyways. And I've grown enough to have had the plants and time to sit around and pick thousands of anthers out of calyxes, and I'll tell you that if the hairs have any THC to trap pollen, it certainly got there from the calyx and leaf exterior by accident.

    THC and cannabinoids are more likely there to protect the seeds from predators, whether a sticky chem-deterrent, or psycho-toxin. All those terpenoids do a bit of repelling, too.

    Sorry, but this is "Dispelling Myths".

    There are no Santa Clauses or Tooth Fairies, really. Maybe poor impersonators and perpetrators of fanciful notions, but the road to hell is with such good intentions paved.

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    from August '06 High Times.

    By Jade Kine

    I’ve got a sweet tooth for sugary, candy-flavored ganja. In fact, sugar is not only the cannabis plant’s source of energy for growth; it’s also the primary factor that determines how good your favorite herb will taste when you smoke it. In my many years of horticultural experimentation, I’ve tried many different sugar supplements to augment my plants’ health and flavor, and I want to share a few of my favorites. Some of this information will be a refresher course for seasoned growers, but I’d like to start at the beginning for the introductory grower and briefly explain the importance of sugar to plants. Plants make their own sugars (carbohydrates) through photosynthesis. Plants combine light energy (from the sun or a high-intensity discharge lamp) with water and CO2 from the atmosphere (or a CO2 tank or burner), and the result is sugar. This sugar is the essential source of energy that’s utilized for all cellular division and the formation of plant structures (i.e., huge, dank buds). Now, you can’t grow a plant in the dark by watering it with sugar, but under otherwise good growing conditions, you can supplement your nutrient solution with extra sugars to boost the natural levels created by photosynthesis and make your plants more vigorous and productive. The real icing on the cake, though, comes from the fact that a little extra sugar will improve not only the yield of your garden but also the flavor of your favorite herb.

    For serious growers and/or gadget collectors, you can even measure the amount of sugar (on this scale, we call it “brix,” pronounced bree) in your plant with a device called a refractometer. Don’t shy away from the fancy name if you’re afraid of complicated devices; this tool is super-easy to operate. Using a sap extractor (or a pair of pliers), you can squeeze a drop of juice out of a leaf and then place it on the refractometer’s viewing plate. Look through the lens and you will see an obvious line running across a column of numbers. Brix readings above 12 indicate good plant health and a strong immune system. With a device like this, you’ll impress your friends (“Oooh…a refracto-what?”) and also be able to detect when a change in your feeding program or environment affects your crop as the readings go up or down. Frequent checks of brix content in leaf tissue will tell you whether your plants are on course or falling behind. Peaceful Valley Farm Supply sells refractometers for $100, and you can find them online at groworganic.com.

    Until about seven or eight years ago, using sugar as a plant supplement was a little-known trick more often employed by grandmothers on their houseplants than ganja growers on their herb. But now the hydroponics market is full of sugar (carbohydrate) supplements. In the beginning, there were several glucose-based products, such as Carbo Load, Carbo Max, Karbo Boost, etc. These are very cost-effective products as far as plant supplements go, but they’re not as cheap as raw glucose itself (usually sold as dextrose or corn sugar—it’s really the same thing), available at brewery-supply outlets and online for just over $1 per pound—less than $1 a pound if you buy in bulk. While glucose is readily available to plants as a form of supplemental carbohydrates, it’s just one form of a simple sugar and lacks the rich flavor found in other, darker kinds of sugar. It can also be difficult to dissolve: If you dump a large amount into water all at once, it has a tendency to form into a gelatinous wad of goo (of which even a small amount can wreak havoc in a hydro garden with small drippers or emitters). To avoid this, dissolve the amount necessary for your reservoir into a beaker of warm water first and pour off the dissolved liquid. Leave any undissolved materials at the bottom of the beaker and add more water until fully dissolved. The use of these products will indeed boost brix levels, but it doesn’t do much for flavor enhancement, which is what this article is all about.

    My all-time-favorite source of supplemental sugar isn’t sold by a plant-nutrient company. It’s Sucanat—a form of dark raw sugar sold as a sweetener for foods in natural-food stores everywhere. But Sucanat is a great sweetener for your sinsemilla, too. Made by Wholesome Sweeteners, Sucanat is short for “Sugar Cane Natural,” a dried cane extract available for under $3 per pound. Sucanat is darker than most organic sugars and has a more molasses-like consistency to it because it hasn’t been separated or refined. It will increase the brix content in plants, but the darker sugar has more vitamins and minerals and a rich caramel aroma as well. Sucanat dissolves readily in hot water and doesn’t seem to turn into goo like dextrose does.
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    OK, you pulled out the "Jade Kine" writing. Having read her stuff before, I'll still give a LOT more respect to the following scientific study by smiling Naomi:

    ....and show me which branch of your favorite "Kushberry Sweet" plant you're going to chop off and test the brix of when you're six weeks into flower.

    If "Jade Kine" knew half of what Naomi does, she'd know why that molasses is in the funny organic stuff.
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    Mr Mike, the reason most other plants get pollinated even tho they don't have sticky THC to trap pollen is because most other plants contains both male and female parts on every flower, or in other cases on the same plant.
    Also, most other plants on earth (excluding those that rely on spores such as fungi and ferns for example) have flowers that attract pollinaters such as bees by either color or sweetness (nectar). Marijuana does not have large, showy or sweet flowers. MJ pollen is wind-bourne.

    Marijuana is one of a very few plants that have seperate male and female plants. It's vital for the female to have a way to "catch" pollen drifting on the wind rather than having the pollen brought to them by insects.

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    Commercial hemp, bred out to less than 1% THC, has no problem reproducing through wind-borne mechanism. And it reproduces as well if not better than the same dieoecious-stuctured, sometimes 15% marijuana.

    Presented with this fact, I'm sure enlightenment can be acheived....

    MYTH shattered
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    Mr. Mike, hemp is not marijuana.
    Close, but no cigar.

    Hemp grows wild, almost always in large "stands", often close enough to touch.
    Also, imo, a hemp plant grows taller and produces much more pollen than a marijuana plant.

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    Maybe hemp and cannabis have different chemical phenotypes, but I'm so sorry to let some fresh air in and tell you they are indeed the same species.

    EXACTLY the same

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    You must not have grown either if you think they're grown the same way.
    Exactly different.

    Have fun smoking rope.
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    Re: Sugar Water ?

    Quote Originally Posted by *mr.mike*
    Maybe hemp and cannabis have different chemical phenotypes, but I'm so sorry to let some fresh air in and tell you they are indeed the same species.

    EXACTLY the same
    Not ! !

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