had to do it...it just seems to be taking forever...the undergrowth finally are getting the pistil change...I assume the fact I don't have HID lighting is why...but I'm pretty happy with the size of some of the flowers/buds...plus I cut off a lot of the fan leaves even though I know your not really suppose to but without the HIDs I feel you gotta do things a bit different...so whats yalls suggestions at this point...I basically have the undergrowth/smaller buds turning 30% brown...the big flowers and the cola has very little pistil change...thx again for any advice