StealthtireGr
New Member
Hey Guys first let me start by saying this is a Design Study, and I do not have a way to test this idea, I am putting this information/Idea out there so hopefully I can help someone with the EFi Knowledge part so they can build and test it!
And many thanks in advance to "OBX Gardner" for his current Grow was part of the inspiration for this set-up.
The "Basic Idea" is to give only the correct amount of Oxygen/nute solution that the plants needs to thrive, with 0 waste! The Idea is Simple, execution is always the hard part, but hopefully this idea will solve all the trade-offs of the different types of Hydroponics systems out there. Remember it's called the "Nivek Effect" and I will explain the name later, if we can get it up and running to see it's effectiveness.
Again we want to Grow faster without the effects below!
1. No wasted water
2. No wasted Nutes
3. No change in PH
4. No Reservoir Temp issues
5. No Clogged Nozzles
We also get:
1. Increased Air Movement in the root system
2. Increased Humidity in root system as it's sealed
3. Increased/Adjustable Tap Root Length
4. Safety Back-up Power system in case of power failure
Here's a Video to demonstrate how it will be achieved: YouTube - Injector spray
The Video is crude and not mine, but you can see how the water is atomized into very small droplets and disipates/evaporates into the air as it travels forward. When water/air hits an object the water will fall out of suspension and cling to that object. In the Video the injectors are roughly 420 to 550cc/min @ 43psi for a reference. If you reduce the line pressure via the regulator the amount of output will go down, and vice versa.
A surfactant that makes water "wetter" could also play a very important/beneficial role here.
The Setup costs
Building the system with costs New, if you have these items then great.
1. $100 EFI Pump and Strainer with built in Check Valve
2. $10 After pump Filter
3. $100 2 Injectors for 2 Plants
4. $280 Injector/Pump control unit
5. $40 PVC 3" "T's", end Caps, Pipe for 2 plants
6. $30 Pressure Regulator
7. $40 Digital Timer
8. $50 Battery Charger
9. $40 Car Battery
10. $25 Brass Injector T's and tubing
11. $40 Reservoir, stones and Air pump
$755 Estimated total
The Idea is to Spray the root mass right at the base of the stalk and let gravity do the rest.
After spending Mucho time makng the Diagrams, it makes better sense to build a wooden Frame and use individule units instead of linking them to one drain. This also does away with the net pot, and having to drill the T which is not a huge issue.
The plant is suspended with the typical 2" Neoprene collars in the 2" to 3" or 4" Adapters.
Fuel Injection Basics:
The Injector is Pulsed in short bursts of on/off to control the amount being sprayed or Pulse Width Modulation and is referred to in miliseconds. This will control the amount of water/nute Solution sprayed. Injectors come in 2 types, "Peak and Hold" or "Saturated". The peak and hold circuit uses 4 amps to pop the injector open, 1 amp to hold it open. The other uses a continous curent to open and hold it. This is important in building the control circuit and not overheating the Injectors.
Now the $280 injector controller listed above can be bypassed and may not even be needed as the Injector could simply be hit with 4 amps and held open for short periods of time with a digital Timer controlling a 120V to 12VDC/4amp power supply like a cell phone charger depends of the number of injectors used and the NEEDED Time the injector needs to be on. When the injector is on it's heating up, off it's cooling. A 10amp Battery Charger will run the EFI Pump in the same cycle. The Efi Pump has a Built in Check Valve that holds the Set regulator pressure on the line so it does need to prime!
Can we let the discussion begin?
STG
The Diagram
This makes better sense than the connected T's
And many thanks in advance to "OBX Gardner" for his current Grow was part of the inspiration for this set-up.
The "Basic Idea" is to give only the correct amount of Oxygen/nute solution that the plants needs to thrive, with 0 waste! The Idea is Simple, execution is always the hard part, but hopefully this idea will solve all the trade-offs of the different types of Hydroponics systems out there. Remember it's called the "Nivek Effect" and I will explain the name later, if we can get it up and running to see it's effectiveness.
Again we want to Grow faster without the effects below!
1. No wasted water
2. No wasted Nutes
3. No change in PH
4. No Reservoir Temp issues
5. No Clogged Nozzles
We also get:
1. Increased Air Movement in the root system
2. Increased Humidity in root system as it's sealed
3. Increased/Adjustable Tap Root Length
4. Safety Back-up Power system in case of power failure
Here's a Video to demonstrate how it will be achieved: YouTube - Injector spray
The Video is crude and not mine, but you can see how the water is atomized into very small droplets and disipates/evaporates into the air as it travels forward. When water/air hits an object the water will fall out of suspension and cling to that object. In the Video the injectors are roughly 420 to 550cc/min @ 43psi for a reference. If you reduce the line pressure via the regulator the amount of output will go down, and vice versa.
A surfactant that makes water "wetter" could also play a very important/beneficial role here.
The Setup costs
Building the system with costs New, if you have these items then great.
1. $100 EFI Pump and Strainer with built in Check Valve
2. $10 After pump Filter
3. $100 2 Injectors for 2 Plants
4. $280 Injector/Pump control unit
5. $40 PVC 3" "T's", end Caps, Pipe for 2 plants
6. $30 Pressure Regulator
7. $40 Digital Timer
8. $50 Battery Charger
9. $40 Car Battery
10. $25 Brass Injector T's and tubing
11. $40 Reservoir, stones and Air pump
$755 Estimated total
The Idea is to Spray the root mass right at the base of the stalk and let gravity do the rest.
After spending Mucho time makng the Diagrams, it makes better sense to build a wooden Frame and use individule units instead of linking them to one drain. This also does away with the net pot, and having to drill the T which is not a huge issue.
The plant is suspended with the typical 2" Neoprene collars in the 2" to 3" or 4" Adapters.
Fuel Injection Basics:
The Injector is Pulsed in short bursts of on/off to control the amount being sprayed or Pulse Width Modulation and is referred to in miliseconds. This will control the amount of water/nute Solution sprayed. Injectors come in 2 types, "Peak and Hold" or "Saturated". The peak and hold circuit uses 4 amps to pop the injector open, 1 amp to hold it open. The other uses a continous curent to open and hold it. This is important in building the control circuit and not overheating the Injectors.
Now the $280 injector controller listed above can be bypassed and may not even be needed as the Injector could simply be hit with 4 amps and held open for short periods of time with a digital Timer controlling a 120V to 12VDC/4amp power supply like a cell phone charger depends of the number of injectors used and the NEEDED Time the injector needs to be on. When the injector is on it's heating up, off it's cooling. A 10amp Battery Charger will run the EFI Pump in the same cycle. The Efi Pump has a Built in Check Valve that holds the Set regulator pressure on the line so it does need to prime!
Can we let the discussion begin?
STG
The Diagram
This makes better sense than the connected T's
