Washington Vets Want Their Comrades To Switch From Pharmaceuticals To Marijuana

Jacob Redmond

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Andrew Collins no longer has a cocktail of 17 prescriptions coursing through his body.

The Army combat veteran stared death in the face while serving two tours of Iraq in the 2000s. He now battles post-traumatic stress disorder as a result of his wartime experiences.

The Olympia veteran has tried medications, meditation and hypnosis while adapting to the stresses of life in the civilian world. But more than any other treatment, Collins says marijuana has helped him cope with the psychological trauma he carries around – trauma that at times has filled his head with aggression and suicidal thoughts.

"I smoke a joint and the thoughts are gone," said Collins, 30.

He said medical marijuana has replaced most of those government-approved prescriptions he had been taking. "I was overmedicated."

Collins has launched a support group called Twenty22Many (pronounced "twenty-two too many"), which is focused on reducing suicide rates among military veterans with help from medical marijuana.

Twenty22Many meets every other Sunday at Rainier Xpress, a medical marijuana dispensary in downtown Olympia. The group got its name from a sobering statistic from the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs: An average of 22 veterans commit suicide every day – or nearly 8,000 per year.

However, some sources suggest the rate might be higher because only 21 states have submitted data to the department. Notable states missing from the report include California and Texas.

The Department of Veterans Affairs reports that "PTSD has been found to be a risk factor" for suicidal thoughts, which are often triggered by combat-related guilt that "can often overpower the emotional coping capacities of veterans."

Some academic studies suggest a link between medical marijuana and a reduction in suicide rates and PTSD symptoms. In 2013, the American Journal of Public Health reported that suicides among men ages 20-39 were reduced by an average of 10.8 percent in states that have legalized medical marijuana compared to states that have not. In addition, a 2014 study by New Mexico psychiatrist Dr. George Greer concluded that marijuana provided relief for PTSD symptoms in 75 percent of patients in a controlled study.

Other reports show potential drawbacks to treating PTSD with cannabis. For example, an individual could build up a tolerance to the drug's sleep-inducing effects, leading to increased use. Cannabis also comes with a high relapse rate for those trying to quit, according to a 2014 study co-authored by Marcel Bonn-Miller, clinical psychologist with the Department of Veterans Affairs. The study notes the likelihood of sleep disturbances due to cannabis use and withdrawal, along with reductions of activity in the brain's prefrontal cortex, which plays a key role in regulating sleep.

A 2015 report published by Addiction Science and Clinical Practice says that PTSD is associated with "greater odds of a cannabis use disorder diagnosis," which describes significant impairment or distress caused by using the drug. "Cannabis use disorders have been associated with poorer PTSD treatment outcomes," according to the report, which acknowledges the lack of scientific evidence to support marijuana as a treatment for PTSD.

For many veterans, the positives outweigh the negatives. Rainier Xpress owner Patrick Seifert has been a tireless advocate for medical marijuana, especially for veterans. Seifert estimates he has helped more than 2,000 veterans at the Olympia dispensary, which includes a "wall of honor" for his military patients.

"To me, the 22 a day is absolutely unacceptable," Seifert said of the veteran suicide rate. "Every one of those women and men who die have a belly full of pharmaceuticals that they got from the VA."

Seifert has lobbied the Legislature to reform marijuana laws and points to a major victory in the movement. Effective July 24, PTSD and traumatic brain injury will be considered qualifying conditions for medical marijuana authorization in Washington.

In addition, Seifert has created the PTS Pen with veterans in mind. About 25 veterans are testing his prototype vaporizer and have agreed to keep a journal about the device's effectiveness in treating symptoms.

"PTSD isn't just a veteran issue," said Seifert, who served with the Marine Corps during the first Gulf War. "It's a human issue."

Olympia resident and Twenty22Many board member Dante Cammarata has suffered from PTSD since his deployment to Iraq in 2003 as an Army medic. Medical marijuana has provided relief without the side effects of pharmaceuticals, he said.

Cammarata supports holistic and alternative treatments to the standard prescriptions from military doctors. One particular group he has tried to reach "before the pills get them" is active-duty soldiers with PTSD who are about to transition to civilian life without a support system in place.

"This is a viable alternative," he said of marijuana, noting that without it, "I don't know if I'd still be here."

Twenty22Many will lead an awareness march and rally starting at 12:30 p.m. July 22 on the steps of the State Capitol. At 1 p.m., the group will march to Sylvester Park, where veterans are encouraged to speak about their experiences. Following a free community meal for veterans at 5:30 p.m., the event will feature a panel of guest speakers including Dr. Sue Sisley, who is known for her medical marijuana research.

Sisley, who lives in Arizona, has been commissioned by Colorado to study marijuana's effects on veterans with PTSD. The study has been delayed because the National Institute for Drug Abuse must provide federally grown samples of marijuana that are authorized for research.

Sisley said the anecdotal evidence is compelling, and she said she hopes more veterans will consider marijuana as an option for treating PTSD.

"It's surprising how many thousands of veterans are using it on the black market and just can't come out of the shadows," she told The Olympian. "I feel we have a duty to these veterans to study this in a vigorous way."

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After nine years of using cannabis to treat my PTSD I've found that the amount of cannabis I smoke makes a big difference (for me). I've found that if I smoke just the right amount it takes care of all my symptoms, but not if I smoke too much.
 
Holy shit. I served with Pat Siefert in Greece...OMFG... We shared a house together. I just googled him based on this article and it's the same dude...OMFG..Been looking for him for years.... Man that is crazy
 
Just amazing. Reached out to reporter, gave him my email to pass on to pat and the reporter responded. .then I found Pats company,,, I'm stalking him. Solid guy. So happy to find out what he's doing.... We had a lot of fun in Chania Crete.... We lived with another guy on the Mediterranean, in a third floor apartment with marble floors overlooking a nude beach. And they paid us.... Oh my,, just made my day...I'll get him here...
 
Just amazing. Reached out to reporter, gave him my email to pass on to pat and the reporter responded. .then I found Pats company,,, I'm stalking him. Solid guy. So happy to find out what he's doing.... We had a lot of fun in Chania Crete.... We lived with another guy on the Mediterranean, in a third floor apartment with marble floors overlooking a nude beach. And they paid us.... Oh my,, just made my day...I'll get him here...

I remembered the story :)
 
I remembered the story :)

Good memory, I tell a lot. All true. Pat, this other guy from lower Alabama and myself adopted this dog,, we named it Kirby...oh my,, I've got video of this guy dancing in our apartment to Bing Crosby or something during Christmas. He's really a great guy, and a solid Marine,,, I'm very happy for him. Man, I'm so happy to find this guy. What are the chances I pick a random article to read, well, it has/had a loose connection to me so it wasn't that random,,, but anyway. Amazing..... I can't wait to talk to him and talk shop...... :Namaste:
 
I remembered the story :)

Good memory, I tell a lot. All true. Pat, this other guy from lower Alabama and myself adopted this dog,, we named it Kirby...oh my,, I've got video of this guy dancing in our apartment to Bing Crosby or something during Christmas. So many stories. We were scuba diving one day off the coast and me and the guy from LA decided to take a break and skip a dive,, Pat went and did the dive,, me and the other guy took a drive in the countryside and found a nudist colony. He was so pissed.

Lol

He's really a great guy, and I'm very happy for him. Man, I'm so happy to find this guy. What are the chances I pick a random article to read, well, it has/had a loose connection to me so it wasn't that random,,, but anyway. Amazing..... I can't wait to talk to him and talk shop...... :Namaste:
 
Spoke to my buddy Pat today. He makes me proud. Big advocate. I've asked him to join this site,, share some knowledge...

And he can verify a few stories I've told. :thumb:

But, really it's to have him here, he's an asset in his local community...I'm sure he would be here....
 
A 2015 report published by Addiction Science and Clinical Practice says that PTSD is associated with “greater odds of a cannabis use disorder diagnosis,”

Just consider the source. Not saying that they would lie...But they may not be completely honest in their reporting! It is their jobs that depend on it! They could never admit the patients were, in fact, getting relief and were not addicted!
 
A 2015 report published by Addiction Science and Clinical Practice says that PTSD is associated with “greater odds of a cannabis use disorder diagnosis,”

Just consider the source. Not saying that they would lie...But they may not be completely honest in their reporting! It is their jobs that depend on it! They could never admit the patients were, in fact, getting relief and were not addicted!

Te didn't call it an addiction - they called it use :)

If they call all cannabis use a "disorder", then I suspect, yes, more PTSD sufferers self-medicate than folks who don't need it as much.
 
It was a "use disorder", whatever the heck that is. Just more lies, that psychologists like to make up! I still guarantees their consultation. I have been through it for something else and the "center" I went to screwed their interviews all up. They even, dishonestly, interpreted the normal results in the psychological testing, as abnormal! They lie. It ensures job security! Glad I don't have to deal with the sharks in my profession any more!
 
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