Colorado Official Warns Trudeau: Legalizing Pot 'Harder To Implement Than You Think'

Jacob Redmond

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A Colorado official has some sobering words of advice for Justin Trudeau if he fulfills his promise to legalize pot in Canada.

"It's going to be a lot harder to implement than you think. It's going to take a lot longer to do it. And it's going to cost more than you think," said Lewis Koski, director of the state's Marijuana Enforcement Division.

Colorado is one of four U.S. states to fully legalize recreational bud. Their challenges -- including how to regulate edibles like brownies and cookies and a rise in drug-impaired driving -- could be instructive for Canada's incoming prime minister.

Among the questions Trudeau's government could grapple with are whether to allow people to grow pot at home or buy it in stores, and how much sales tax to charge.

In Colorado, adults over 21 can grow up to six plants at home, while those who buy recreational weed in stores pay 25 per cent sales tax on top of the regular 2.9 per cent sales tax.

The state has collected $141 million in taxes since storefront sales began in January 2014. But a portion of the tax earmarked for school construction projects has fallen short of a $40-million goal.

There's also the matter of how to regulate edible products, which often take the form of sweet treats that appeal to children or are so potent that adults easily overindulge.

The state introduced new rules in February to require more explicit warnings on labels and offer companies incentives to produce lower-potency goods.*edit*

In Washington, nearly half of marijuana poisoning calls last year involved children. Packages on pot products can't use cartoon characters or bright colours, and must clearly mark each 10-milligram serving of THC, the chemical in pot that makes users feel high.

"It can't be especially appealing to children, which is admittedly a bit subjective. So each one of those products is actually submitted for review prior to going on the shelves," said Mikhail Carpenter of the Washington State Liquor and Cannabis Board.

Another area Canada will need to study is drug-impaired driving. While fatal crashes in Washington only increased slightly after legalization, the percentage of drivers involved in those crashes who tested positive for THC doubled -- to 12 per cent in 2014 from 6 per cent in 2010.

There is no approved breath or saliva test in the U.S. or Canada to determine if someone recently consumed marijuana. In Washington, a blood test is the best available method to measure THC levels. The state's maximum is five nanograms of THC per millilitre of blood.

Washington police must obtain a judge-approved search warrant before bringing a driver to hospital for a blood test -- a process that can take a couple hours. While marijuana remnants can stay in a person's system for days, active THC dissipates rapidly.

"That's why in a general traffic-stop situation, where say a person was smoking it as they were driving down the road, there's a time aspect where we want to try to get the test done as soon as possible," said Washington State Patrol Sgt. Brandon Villanti.

But questions remain about whether every person with active THC in their system is actually impaired by the drug. Lawyer John Conroy said medical patients who regularly use marijuana do not get high.

"Just measuring nanograms in your blood doesn't do it. That's what they do in Washington state and you're presumed to be impaired and it's irrebuttable."

Alaska and Oregon legalized pot last year and are in the midst of crafting new rules. Cynthia Franklin, director of Alaska's Alcoholic Beverage and Marijuana Control Boards, said lawmakers are under pressure to meet tight timelines and begin issuing licences in May.

"It's a wild ride, and we've been through a lot of loops and twirls and stomach-churning drops," she said.

Representatives from all four states stressed the importance of public engagement. Oregon recently adopted its temporary requirements for marijuana licensees after a robust community debate.

"We don't have a bunch of controversy around our rules because we've been transparent and open," said Rob Patridge, chair of the Oregon Liquor Control Commission.

Patridge, also a district attorney, estimated about 75 per cent of medical marijuana grown in the state is currently going into the black market or being exported.

"We're hoping that the regulatory environment that we've put in place will attract those who want to participate in a legal market," he said.

"However, Oregon is way over-producing for its current population that could partake in marijuana. So, unless (legalization) is done on a nationwide level, we are certainly going to continue to have significant black market problems."

And if Trudeau wants to learn from Oregon, Patridge said he would welcome a visit.

"Tell him our door is open to him. We're happy to share with our neighbours to the north."

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Re: Colorado Official Warns Trudeau: Legalizing Pot 'Harder To Implement Than You Thi

Legalizing isn't hard, just stop makinging it unlawful.

Regulating is only difficult because of special interest groups,especially those who A) see a profit and B) see a danger.
In the real world, regulation is optional. I'd like to see regulation to enforce quality and health standards, but it's not like Canada HAS to make it complicated.
 
Re: Colorado Official Warns Trudeau: Legalizing Pot 'Harder To Implement Than You Thi

In the least they should decriminalize it, like it was in the 70s in the states under the Carter administration.
 
Re: Colorado Official Warns Trudeau: Legalizing Pot 'Harder To Implement Than You Thi

In the least they should decriminalize it, like it was in the 70s in the states under the Carter administration.

I was in California in the 70s and it was $50 and the cops took your weed. That was workable. I didn't think that was the law in all the United States, just California and maybe a few other states.
 
Re: Colorado Official Warns Trudeau: Legalizing Pot 'Harder To Implement Than You Thi

The only reason, that I see , behind the difficulty in getting it regulated, is that the states are having difficulty figuring out a way to collect as much tax as possible, for a weed that can be grown, anywhere! They want their taxes. They want to continue sending people to their private prisons, for felony convictions, related to the production of cannabis and black market sales. Maintaining high prices guarantees that the black market will continue, to some extent! "Politics", likely, creates more than 80% of the delay in initiating a sensible drug policy! Just as the Illinois medical cannabis law is tied up in a quagmire of regulations, (severely limiting the diseases for which it can be used, No PTSD!?, and fingerprinting every potential medical patient, etc.) the rest of the country could, easily, end up in the same terrible shape!

After seeing those beautiful brownies, I am starved, and I am trying to diet! And, no, I don't have any reason to have the munchies!
 
Re: Colorado Official Warns Trudeau: Legalizing Pot 'Harder To Implement Than You Thi

In the least they should decriminalize it, like it was in the 70s in the states under the Carter administration.

Hahahaha. IT was back in the CARTER years THIRTY FIVE (35) years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That the President of the US said that marijuana's societal harms were exaggerated.... And nothing has happened to take down the Toxic NIXON programs. What those in power need to realize is that now there are enough victims of these illplaced policies over the last 40 years that we are getting older and simply SICK and TIRED of being second class citizens subject to some form of Nuremberg laws. We are sick and tired, and simply not going to take this anymore and that is it the end of story. The closet smokers have always been their own worst enemies, acting like a herd of geese that accepts that a certain number of their kind will be harvested by the "hunters" every year. The old German saying comes to mind here....... This is a human, civil rights struggle that really has very little to do with marijuana per se...... We are tired of our friends and family being harvested......
 
Re: Colorado Official Warns Trudeau: Legalizing Pot 'Harder To Implement Than You Thi

I was in California in the 70s and it was $50 and the cops took your weed. That was workable. I didn't think that was the law in all the United States, just California and maybe a few other states.

That is not acceptable or workable. The State has no right to steal from you.
 
Re: Colorado Official Warns Trudeau: Legalizing Pot 'Harder To Implement Than You Thi

I was in California in the 70s and it was $50 and the cops took your weed. That was workable. I didn't think that was the law in all the United States, just California and maybe a few other states.

Last edited by Radogast; 10-26-2015 at 07:39 PM. Reason: With a name like BigSur (beautiful place) you might also being seing from a California Perspective :)

I never got busted for pot anywhere. I smoked a lot of weed, even ~with~ cops in the coastal towns in those days, even some on the CA Highway Patrol. They got high and/or did not care. However, in places like San Jose or Sunnyvale, they would bust you wide open for a half a joint. In Berkeley, you could go to a restaurant and they would be passing joints around for dessert.

Yes, I lived in and around Big Sur (Carmel Valley, Prunedale, Monterey, PG, Salinas, etc.) in the 70s. However, I also visited Colorado, Nevada, Idaho, Oregon, New York and Arizona, and people lit up there the same as in NorCal. The states were highly varied, but the FEDS were not busting people under the Carter administration like they were in earlier and later administrations. At least not where I was.
 
Re: Colorado Official Warns Trudeau: Legalizing Pot 'Harder To Implement Than You Thi

By the way, if you listen to the US presidential candidates now, most all (including the Donald) are for legalizing either rec or medical weed. 60% of the US population favor legalizing it now. Like booze, it will be up to the states to legalize it and regulate sales though, and not the FEDS. As for taxation, most states have a rate of 25% sales tax. It is $10-15 a gram in OR at most places, but I have seen it as cheap as $7 a gram here. That is dragging prices down in southern WA state. Sales here are pretty brisk. $11 million in the first week alone. Oregon and Colorado also allow for growing your own marijuana; no sales tax on that. I can grow 4 plants a year here now, for FREE, and that is way more weed than I can possibly ever smoke. In Colorado you can grow 6 plants. GYO!
 
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Colorado Official Warns Trudeau: Legalizing Pot 'Harder To Implement Than You Think'

It seems to me that American State officials giving Canadian officials legal advice on marijuana is really a joke considering America started this whole 'Prohibition' on the herb and really messed up a lot of lives, based on lies. Just seem bizarre. Let Canada do their own thing their own way.
 
Re: Colorado Official Warns Trudeau: Legalizing Pot 'Harder To Implement Than You Thi

You would ask Saddam Hussein how to institute legal protections so that citizens can enjoy the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
 
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